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Now that the Post Standard has published their story

It's because they are utterly insulated from consequences. In many cases, getting fired, if that even happens, comes with a golden parachute. Then they just move on to the next six-figure, empty-suit position elsewhere.

It's pretty rare that anything actually sticks to these people once they're "in".

In fairness, there are lots of positions and jobs that are like this. This is not some unique trait with higher education.
 
In fairness, there are lots of positions and jobs that are like this. This is not some unique trait with higher education.
Odd thing to be "fair" about. Nobody claimed that it is unique.
 
70's is the new 40's? ;) Although, perception is reality.
In my circles, the perception of SU is quite good. I don’t know a lot of people who care much about whether a school is ranked 43 or 73.

Now, the negative perception about SU that I think is actually harmful is its ludicrous sticker price. And that’s more reality than perception.
 
Higher ed, man.

I've worked in it for 13 years at a few different institutions, and this how a lot of these situations go down. Higher ed administration is a weird, weird subculture.
Yeah weird kingdoms with knights of roundtable structures. SU would be good to find a Fran Brown type to break the mold. It’s nauseating
 
Yeah weird kingdoms with knights of roundtable structures. SU would be good to find a Fran Brown type to break the mold. It’s nauseating
Ask yourself what Fran Brown did to break the mold tho. Only one thing matters and that’s winning. A 6-7 win season even 8 and no one would think twice. 10 win season for a rookie coach though and all the sudden things start to get a fresh set of eyes.
 
Ask yourself what Fran Brown did to break the mold tho. Only one thing matters and that’s winning. A 6-7 win season even 8 and no one would think twice. 10 win season for a rookie coach though and all the sudden things start to get a fresh set of eyes.
Nah he has a completely different approach to the program. No 1 he is not aloof and is completely connected to the fanbase…
 
In my circles, the perception of SU is quite good. I don’t know a lot of people who care much about whether a school is ranked 43 or 73.

Now, the negative perception about SU that I think is actually harmful is its ludicrous sticker price. And that’s more reality than perception.
As everything in life, one's own viewpoint is based upon their own personal life experiences.

I'm in complete agreement with, and likely shared more universally for sure, with the ludicrous sticker price. Especially, when taking into consideration the combination, totality, etc. of the, let's just say, overall investment.
 
As everything in life, one's own viewpoint is based upon their own personal life experiences.

I'm in complete agreement with, and likely shared more universally for sure, with the ludicrous sticker price. Especially, when taking into consideration the combination, totality, etc. of the, let's just say, overall investment.
Agree on perspective. But there’s also data to suggest SU is still very well regarded by the people who matter most: students.

SU gets an A- rating overall on Niche, including an A for academics, which is a heavily used guide for prospective students (far more than US News rankings).

 
When it's all said and done, at least we now know who Chris Carlson's source is...
 
Agree on perspective. But there’s also data to suggest SU is still very well regarded by the people who matter most: students.

SU gets an A- rating overall on Niche, including an A for academics, which is a heavily used guide for prospective students (far more than US News rankings).

If the students were the ones paying a premium price for an increasingly middling product I might be more inclined to agree. As it is the NYT reports that SU had to resort to trying to bribe students committed to other schools to try to fill out next year’s class.
 
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If the students were the ones paying a premium price for an increasingly middling product I might be more inclined to agree. As it is the NYT reports that SU had to resort to trying to bribe students committed to other schools to try to fill out next year’s class.
Having two college aged kids I can assure you that most students are hyper aware of the cost of attendance and that many, if not most, are contributing in some meaningful degree to paying for said attendance. Student loans are a persistent issue for a reason.
 
I feel it is time for me to share my experience with this story. Loving Syracuse the way
I do, the way we all do, I thought I was in a unique position to maybe broker a peace
deal between the parties. I have known one of the Trustees well for over 30 years.
Plus, I had access to a couple of others. It was my intention to have them introduce me
to the Chancellor and for me to get the Chancellor and Adaw W together for a lunch.
Let's see if we can come up with a solution that both sides could live with. At this
point, I had never spoken with either the Chancellor or Adam W.
The first thing I did was call Adam W. After a couple of misses, we finally spoke.
I found Adam to be charming and more than willing to this potential meeting.
He said he just needed a bit of notice. For me, I thought one half of my plan had
been accomplished. Next, I contacted a BOT member that have known extremely well
for 32 years. The response couldn't have been colder. The message was that she would
pass my request through official channels to the Chancellors office. Keep in mind,
this is a person I had done a very big favor for with the University just a few years ago.
I explained that I needed more than that. I needed a phone call to the Chancellor. The
request was refused. I contacted two other BOT members and got even less of a
response. One saying that Kent will never meet with Adam. Well, I have had to fight
for everything I have ever got in my life so I wasn't going to just take a couple
of no's and quit. So I wrote the nicest letter to the Chancellor. Very complimentary
and respectful. I explained who I was and all I wanted was a lunch meeting. My treat.
The Chancellor never responded. I waited a few days and sent another message.
I provided the Post Standard with these messages. Once again, the Chancellor
never responded. No, thanks but no thanks. No go to hell. I guess he left his
manners back in D.C.. As i told the Post Standard, the message was clear.
And then you come on here and discuss exactly what happened fueling the fire even more maybe there’s some things that you have no idea about. And your friend/colleague has been instructed to not say a word. How about that just a thought
 
And then you come on here and discuss exactly what happened fueling the fire even more maybe there’s some things that you have no idea about. And your friend/colleague has been instructed to not say a word. How about that just a thought
She could have explained that, if that were the case, no?
 
Maybe the instructions to all was to not even say "no comment".
Maybe, but a well crafted response would limit speculation and be a lot more professional than what is happening now.
 
And then you come on here and discuss exactly what happened fueling the fire even more maybe there’s some things that you have no idea about. And your friend/colleague has been instructed to not say a word. How about that just a thought
Yes, I'm sure I did something wrong. How dare I offer to drive 4 hours ( both ways) and take two people out to lunch. All the while, where there was nothing at all in it for me.
 
Yes, I'm sure I did something wrong. How dare I offer to drive 4 hours ( both ways) and take two people out to lunch.
Come on, that's not the whole story!!! What were the lunch options?
 
LOL I was willing to go and pay for any place these two guys wanted.
So, you're telling me the Sizzler was on the table and they weren't jumping on that free lunch?
 

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