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I'm surprised there is no thread for this. Mets will be the team to watch this offseason given they have more money coming off their cap than total salary of a several teams.

Initial thoughts:
- I'm conflicted about whether to give Soto a huge bag. He reminds me a lot of AROD... a mercenary guy. I also worry about how these decade long contracts will age. Having said all that, it's not my money so I think Cohen should offer him the bag.
- Alonso... keep but only if his contract is under $200mm. I don't think he will age well
- Of all their pitchers I would go after Manea and Severino.
- Hopefully Mets sign one of the a-list starting pitchers... they desperately need a true ace
- I think and hope Maton comes back at a more reasonable price
- Thank god Ottavino is finally out... great pitcher back in the day but he's scary now
 
David Samson predicted on his show today that Soto would be a Met. He wouldn’t be shocked if the Mets pick up three Boras clients - Soto, Pete, and one of the top end pitchers.
 
Cusefan95 said:
David Samson predicted on his show today that Soto would be a Met. He wouldn’t be shocked if the Mets pick up three Boras clients - Soto, Pete, and one of the top end pitchers.
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I hope the Mets get the Japanese pitcher who was just posted... if for no other reason that the Dodgers don't.

Mets seem to be linked with Crochet via trade and Buehler via FA on a prove it deal.

Get those two, Manea and the Japanese kid and sign some bullpen arms and some SP depth to go along with Peterson and the pitching staff is rebuilt.

I'm not sure what to make of the Soto sweepstakes... I think there's a price beyond which Stearns won't go and I'm fine with that.
 
upperdeck said:
I think spend the money on 4-5 guys and not one is the better way to go.
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Agree. The Mets have too many holes that need to be filled to sign Soto.

The glut of infielders on the roster now needs to be addressed and some of the guys turned into players at other positions.

I expect at least one major trade and probably two or three.

I am hoping Manaea is re-signed. He seems like a great fit for this team.

So much talk about adding a 3B makes me think Vientos is getting moved to 2B or DH.

That seems to hint that Pete is not coming back. Would not be shocked if he does return but I don’t expect it.

Should be a wild off season.
 
sutomcat said:
Agree. The Mets have too many holes that need to be filled to sign Soto.

The glut of infielders on the roster now needs to be addressed and some of the guys turned into players at other positions.

I expect at least one major trade and probably two or three.

I am hoping Manaea is re-signed. He seems like a great fit for this team.

So much talk about adding a 3B makes me think Vientos is getting moved to 2B or DH.

That seems to hint that Pete is not coming back. Would not be shocked if he does return but I don’t expect it.

Should be a wild off season.
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My suspicion is that Samson based his projection the Mets would get Soto (and keep Pete) on the way Cohen has behaved in the past - but one of the reasons you hire a David Sterns is to bring fiscal responsibility, so that may temper what Cohen does. I’d rather see the team do what Sterns kept doing with the Brewers - find manageable cost players to add to areas of need.
 
sutomcat said:
Agree. The Mets have too many holes that need to be filled to sign Soto.

The glut of infielders on the roster now needs to be addressed and some of the guys turned into players at other positions.

I expect at least one major trade and probably two or three.

I am hoping Manaea is re-signed. He seems like a great fit for this team.

So much talk about adding a 3B makes me think Vientos is getting moved to 2B or DH.

That seems to hint that Pete is not coming back. Would not be shocked if he does return but I don’t expect it.

Should be a wild off season.
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Seeing Manaea linked to the Rangers.
 
Cusefan95 said:
My suspicion is that Samson based his projection the Mets would get Soto (and keep Pete) on the way Cohen has behaved in the past - but one of the reasons you hire a David Sterns is to bring fiscal responsibility, so that may temper what Cohen does. I’d rather see the team do what Sterns kept doing with the Brewers - find manageable cost players to add to areas of need.
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At some point if the Mets want to get to the World Series they will need to beat the Dodgers… not sure the Brewers strategy gets them there. Dodgers have three mvp candidates and a great farm system. Ohtani and Betts did a lot of damage against the Mets along with a few others. Mets didn’t have the bats or arms to keep up.
 
I think Vientos could be moved to 1B if Alonso leaves. I would like to see McNeill traded to make room for some of the young talent. I also wouldn’t be upset if Baty was included in a trade package. I’m confident that the Mets are in good hands with Stearns. He seems to get a lot of value for the money spent.
 
I’ve been saying the Mets are the only team where this much of a cash outlay makes any sense for Soto. Yankees can’t really afford it without being hamstrung . Nor can Boston .
 
Soto is the only player I would be ok with this kind of crazy deal honestly. With how Vientos came on, Lindor showing no signs of falling off , Marte healthy, the battle between Baty and Mauricio and hopefully Alvarez getting settled in at the plate for good there is a lot to like. Hopefully Nimmo does his thing and McNeil bounces back as well or you have Acuna too ( and maybe Gilbert).
 
SWC75 said:
www.espn.com

Sources: Mets land Juan Soto on 15-year, $765M deal

Juan Soto and the Mets are in agreement on a 15-year, $765 million contract, sources told ESPN, the largest deal in professional sports history.
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$51 million dollars a year for 15 years.

The New York Sotos, (and the Syracuse Sotos).
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I don’t even know how to act.

The Mets never sign the big star free agent everyone wants. They never have the best young player in baseball. And they certainly never beat our the Yankees in an all out bidding war for one of the ankee’s biggest stars.

I think it was pretty evident when the Mets signed Montas and Holmes as starters we were not going in on any of the big free agent starting pitchers. If there was any doubt, that doubt should be gone now. Hoping there is still enough money in the budget to retain Sean Manaea.

It will be interesting to see if Pete Alonso is signed. I could see the Yankees making him a huge offer. They need a firstbaseman and I think they would like a public win in the press after this, especially if it involves taking a player from the Mets..

My gut tells me a long term contract with Pete is not a good idea. My heart says it is. I suspect David Stearns will make the right decision. But I can’t help hoping Pete gives his team the ole home team discount and finds a way to stay a Met. I think though this kind of stuff only happens in bad screenplays.
 
I am still sorting through the Soto signing in my mind. I’m not feeling as excited as I would have expected. On one hand the Mets signed one of best young stars in MLB. On the other hand this “could” hamper their ability the fill holes elsewhere on the roster - e.g. starting pitching. Additionally, the Mets had phenomenal chemistry last year. How will this signing impact that chemistry? Stearns has proven to be a good hire so I have a level of confidence that he will successfully navigate through this. It is nice to beat the Yankees for a player they really want. LETS GO METS!
 
The lack of deferred money in the Soto deal is going to be the difference maker between the Dodgers and the Mets assuming everyone stays healthy.
 
sutomcat said:
I don’t even know how to act.

The Mets never sign the big star free agent everyone wants. They never have the best young player in baseball. And they certainly never beat our the Yankees in an all out bidding war for one of the ankee’s biggest stars.

I think it was pretty evident when the Mets signed Montas and Holmes as starters we were not going in on any of the big free agent starting pitchers. If there was any doubt, that doubt should be gone now. Hoping there is still enough money in the budget to retain Sean Manaea.

It will be interesting to see if Pete Alonso is signed. I could see the Yankees making him a huge offer. They need a firstbaseman and I think they would like a public win in the press after this, especially if it involves taking a player from the Mets..

My gut tells me a long term contract with Pete is not a good idea. My heart says it is. I suspect David Stearns will make the right decision. But I can’t help hoping Pete gives his team the ole home team discount and finds a way to stay a Met. I think though this kind of stuff only happens in bad screenplays.
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I think Mets still need to get a number 1 pitcher because the have little to no projectionable top end pitching talent. Senga is as close as they have and he needs to prove that he is healthy.

Agree on Pete… I don’t think he ages well. My only hope is he goes to an AL team and so we can limit the .400 average and 1.500 ops he will inevitably get against the Mets.

If they don’t resign Pete then they need another plus bat to protect Soto… I don’t think Vientos is there yet.

I still see the following needs:
- they need one premium pitcher
- they need at least one more bat either Pete or someone else
- they need at least 2 or three more bull pen arms to get to Diaz.

Ideal rest of offseason
- package Baty with whomever and get a plus starting player… either pitcher or starter. I read a lot about the White Sox wanting to trade Robert and/or Crochet
- Sign a good free agent for whatever they can’t trade for
- sign Buehler
- Sign Roki
- get three more arms for the pen, including at least one leftie
 
orangenauburn said:
Still not beating the Dodgers

Need pitching
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I don’t think any team can build a deep enough pitching staff to stop the Dodgers bats. I think to beat the Dodgers you need to out hit them. Mets and Pads almost were able to do that… I think if Soto was on the Mets they would have won that series.

I just hope the Dodgers don’t get Roki… if they can build an elite starting pitcher staff along with their lineup and bullpen then no one is beating them
 
It’s funny reading the Yankees fans’ comments now saying they are glad it’s our problem at that price and it’s better for them. Reminds me of the comments around Ohtani’s deal and then look what happened.
 
Orangezoo said:
It’s funny reading the Yankees fans’ comments now saying they are glad it’s our problem at that price and it’s better for them. Reminds me of the comments around Ohtani’s deal and then look what happened.
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You might get some sour grapes from Yankee fans but I don’t don’t think you’ll get any fine “wine”. Yankees still have approximately $ 100 million wrapped up in 3 players with other holes to fill. Hal talks a good story but still clutches the purse strings pretty tightly. Hopefully Yankee management puts the money “saved” to good use.
 
www.nytimes.com

Inside Juan Soto landing the biggest contract in pro sports history from Steve Cohen’s Mets

“It’s so hard,” a friend recalled Juan Soto saying recently. “Everyone makes it sound so good.”
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"Cohen was not going to defer to the Yankees, the way he did in 2022 when Aaron Judge flirted with other teams before signing his nine-year, $360 million contract to remain in the Bronx. But Cohen’s eagerness to spend — and the possibility of poaching a superstar from a crosstown rival — was just one aspect of this perfect storm. Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged the pressure to retain Soto at MLB’s recent owners’ meetings in Manhattan, telling reporters: “I know what’s expected of me.”

www.nytimes.com

The factors that pushed the bidding for Juan Soto to unexpected heights

Soto landed on the open market with the right teams looking to make a splash.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

"First, it’s because of his age. Players almost never hit free agency ahead of their age-26 season, let alone ones as accomplished as Soto. At 26, Soto is still younger than Adley Rutschman or Cole Ragans...Second, Soto landed on the open market with the right teams looking to make a splash. He had just posted a career season to help lead the Yankees to their first pennant in 15 years; they had to bring him back. The Mets and Steve Cohen had the willingness and capability to push the price to infinity."

www.nytimes.com

Mets land Juan Soto behind $765 million and Steve Cohen’s personalized approach

In addition to paying top dollar, Cohen demonstrated his intentions to win and hit all the right notes in his pitch to Soto.
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"All those wisecracks, shared routinely for decades, about being second-rate to the New York Yankees ceased on Sunday night because owner Steve Cohen lured superstar Juan Soto to the New York Mets with his vision and with his billions. Ever since Cohen took control of the franchise in 2020, the Mets have operated differently, taking lavish shots and flexing financial muscle. But landing Soto, a transformative moment for the franchise, stands out as seismic."

www.nytimes.com

What does Juan Soto’s record contract mean to the Mets’ payroll?

The Mets handed out an epic contract, so luxury tax challenges are part of their future, too: “I keep them all in my mind.”
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

"So what does this mean for New York’s payroll over, say, the next 15 seasons? Well, get used to the luxury tax."

[Will the Yankees now go after Pete Alonso to stick it to the Mets?]

www.nytimes.com

Juan Soto transforms the Mets, who still need pitching, while the Yankees take a hit: Law

Soto improves the Mets significantly, but they still need a top starter. Can the rest of the AL East take advantage of the Yankees' loss?
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

"The Mets have also signed a few pitchers to shore up a rotation that had three starters who qualified for the ERA title and all three hit free agency, with one, Luis Severino, already signed elsewhere. Kodai Senga should be back, and both Paul Blackburn and David Peterson are nice fifth starters, but the Mets needed to get some top-end starters to make the team both stronger in the regular season and, more importantly, a bigger threat in October."
 
The Mets hit a wall in that final series. The two bridge relievers, One got hurt and the other ran out of gas.
Then Senga who they hoped could get them 4 innings twice could not.

on the flip side the dodgers got 10x the output from a couple guys over the course of 5-6 games that you could never expect.
 
Weee doggy, that is Jed Clampett like money. Soto is going to have one heck of a billiard room and cement pond.
 

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