Official HELL TO THE VICTORS SU/UM game thread
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No and when I pointed out that he's been horrific last week obv I was told it was rubbish
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Typical though. He didnt call time out either when we turned it over what seemed like 6 times in a row.
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Joseph isn't good enough to play forty minutes... Simple as that. End of discussion. Why he played forty minutes... Hands down on defense while guys drill threes.. Give the guy a break Jim.. He isn't irreplaceable
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Definitely needed a timeout. Still, that was not impressive.
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Why did Boeheim not call a timeout before Joseph went crazy? We needed one point and Joseph is trying to set up Cooney for a three? Play was stupid even before the turnover.
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Cooney finally seemed to hit a few shots and KJ2 lost us the game. That's my only reactions. goodnight love you all
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Agreed. If mike g has the ball maybe you let him attack. That hurt. We only needed a 2 pt bucket and needed a plan .
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I am very proud of this team...they were down by ten and fought back. Turnovers hurt a lot, but this is a relatively young team and definitely inexperienced. Even with all the turnovers they almost stole one AT Michigan...I feel more positive after this loss than I have after some of the wins. GO ORANGE!!!
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Not their fault ...
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This game proved a lot of things. If Cooney is on, we can play with pretty much anyone.
It also proved that having freshman on the court late in games will lead to crucial mistakes.
As to the last play, I always am torn. How often do you see a team get so excited they don't play good defense in that situation and the Pg gets a free lane for a layup to win the game? If you call the TO everybody gets settled (defense included), if you think your guy can handle it, you let him go. Last year letting Ennis do that would have been a no-brainer, but Joseph is a toss up. I probably would have panicked and taken the TO there.
It also proved that having freshman on the court late in games will lead to crucial mistakes.
As to the last play, I always am torn. How often do you see a team get so excited they don't play good defense in that situation and the Pg gets a free lane for a layup to win the game? If you call the TO everybody gets settled (defense included), if you think your guy can handle it, you let him go. Last year letting Ennis do that would have been a no-brainer, but Joseph is a toss up. I probably would have panicked and taken the TO there.
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There is definitely a lot to be proud of after this one. But to be so close at the end, and to basically just give it to Michigan is the part that sucks. It's one thing if we set up a play and Michigan played good defense and got the win. But we didn't make Michigan stop us at the end, we totally gave it to them.
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Cooney should have thrown the ball in. They didn't guard the inbounds. All you have to do is get it in and go right back to the inbounder. Silent G was also open on the play. They could have also popped CM at the top of the circle and he could have had a wide open three. I wonder if we ever even practice these situations? The final minute was as bad as you can play with bonehead after bonehead plays. I don't buy the freshmen crap. You can either play and make smart plays or you can't. WE obviously can't.
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Directly no. But another year would have benefitted both as well as SU. Youth naturally struggles.
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It was clear Joseph was trying to get it to Cooney. But you get taught from an early age as a PG...NEVER dribble straight to the corner, only bad things will happen
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Who knows. We only had one timeout left, no? Perhaps JB had some big plan for after we scored...and thus needed to save it.
Or if someone got in trouble, they could use it.
I'm not sure anyone expects that - where was Joseph even going. Even if he doesn't dribble off his foot...blah.
Still, should have called a timeout.
Oh well.
Or if someone got in trouble, they could use it.
I'm not sure anyone expects that - where was Joseph even going. Even if he doesn't dribble off his foot...blah.
Still, should have called a timeout.
Oh well.
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THIS
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jdubs30 said:
What everyone forgets is that besides Cooney and Christmas this is very inexperienced team. I feel bad for Joseph. He made mistakes most freshman would. Also Cooney supporting him at the end showed great leadership. I think there were more positives than negatives in this game...
