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Let's have the dreaded depth chart conversation. I know there has been some discussions in other threads but its nice to have it all in one place. So here's mine.

PG: Ennis, Patterson
SG: Mike G, BJ Johnson, Cooney
SF: CJ, Roberston
PF: Rak (token start), Grant
C: DC2, Baye, Rak

Chino RS
 
PG: Ennis, Cooney (believe it or not. I think Cooney works hard on his handle and is the guy to eat the backup PG minutes), Buss
SG: Mike G, Cooney, Buss
SF: Fair, Roberson, BJ
PF: Grant, Roberson,
C: Rak, DC2, BMK
RS: Chino
I don't think BJ or Buss sniff the floor this year unless its mopup duty. Every year we think Fr are going to come in a be ready to surplant older guys and they rarely turn out to be ready. Hopefully Rak or DC2 can improve enough to be effective some at the 4 too, but I'm starting to think both guys will stay at C and we'll have a nice three headed monster in the middle instead. I still have faith in Cooney. It'll only be his Soph year. He'll improve his handle and be more relaxed with his shot and be a solid contributer off the bench this year.
 
PG: Ennis, Cooney (believe it or not. I think Cooney works hard on his handle and is the guy to eat the backup PG minutes)
SG: Mike G, Cooney
SF: Fair, Roberson, BJ
PF: Grant, Roberson,
C: Rak, DC2, BMK
RS: Chino
I don't think BJ sniffs the floor this year unless its mopup duty. Every year we think Fr are going to come in a be ready to surplant older guys and they rarely turn out to be ready. Hopefully Rak or DC2 can improve enough to be effective some at the 4 too, but I'm starting to think both guys will stay at C and we'll have a nice three headed monster in the middle instead. I still have faith in Cooney. It'll only be his Soph year. He'll improve his handle and be more relaxed with his shot and be a solid contributer off the bench this year.

Patterson? buried on the bench?
 
Here is my guess as to minutes played,

Ennis, Gbinije, Fair, Grant, Keita, and Coleman play starters minutes. I know I have six guys playing starters minutes and not five, but I see Keita and Coleman splitting time fairly equally.

Cooney and Roberson play in the regular rotation, getting back up minutes. I think Cooney might be THE most important indicator of overall team success this year. We are going to lack good outside shooters. If Cooney can fill that hole this team begins to look like a very complete team. If he can't, it starts to look like a flawed team.

Patterson and Christmas have a chance to get back up minutes if they impress, but likely fall to the end of the bench, and dont see much time in meaningful games.

Johnson and Chino are both red shirt candidates. I think Chino gets a shirt. I hope Johnson does, although I would not bet on it.

Here is my argument for why Johnson should red shirt his freshman year.

Johnson can play either shooting guard or forward. At forward Grant and Fair are locks to start and get big minutes. Boeheim is only going to play 3 forwards. Johnson is going to have to compete with Roberson for that third forward spot, and while I think Johnson is more skilled than Roberson, Tyler is more physically ready to bang down low right now, and in the end that will win out.

As a two, Johnson will bring length and shooting (a skill that will be much needed on this years team). However, he will not bring a ton of ball handling for a guard, and certainly will not be a pseudo second point guard the way Triche was. I think that being forced to play a true freshman point guard like Ennis will make Boeheim want to put the best ball handlers possible around him to try to lighten his load; that means playing more of Gbinije and Cooney and less of Johnson.

Also, if you look at the history of great shooting wings who are 6'7 or 6'8 you will see that it usually takes them a year or two to adjust to the college game. Nichols couldn't hit anything his first two seasons, and went on to hit everything his last two seasons. Southerland was the same way. Even Wes Johnson's career was that way (his freshman and sophomore year at Iowa St. he was not a great shooter at all, it was not until he came to Syracuse that the three began to fall regularly).

Knowing this history, and knowing that BJ is young for a D1 basketball player, and can stand to put on some muscle, I think a red shirt year helps him exponentially. Once he gets a few years under Boeheim's system I expect him to excel. Look at how dominant Southerland was in the Big East tournament last year. When a 6'7 or 6'8 guy has is going from deep he is almost impossible to stop. I look forward to years of that from BJ.

On an overall team note. I think Grant and Coleman need to show dramatic improvement for the team to be good. It is going to be the toughest for Grant because he and Fair both like to occupy the same spot on the floor. My guess is Grant works hard on his midrange shot this year, and Fair works hard on his three point shooting. Fair shot an amazing percentage from three last year but he only took wide open shots. His release is very slow. He made his living around the basket. If Fair is going to make his living outside he is going to have to improve his shot a lot. My guess is his percentage from three drops to somewhere around 35 percent, but he shoots a lot more and his shot improves a lot.

If Grant can hit the midrange shot (something he showed flashes of last year) it will allow both he and Fair to coexist, and either to drive into a mostly open lane when the situation dictates - which hopefully is often.

With Fair, Grant, and Coleman scoring a lot, Syracuse can afford to have inconsistent guards. Since none of Syracuse's guards have much experience at all, I think inconsistency is a pretty realistic expectation. On the offensive end, Fair, Grant, and Coleman are going to have to carry the load, and that will be more difficult if Cooney struggles from deep and Syracuse cant open things up by hitting outside shots.

On the defensive end, Syracuse wont be as good as they were the last two years, but I expect them to be good, and I expect Grant and Fair to be one of the better defensive forward combinations ever at Syracuse. Grant, in particular, has all the tools to be among the best defensive players Syracuse has ever had.
 
While we have some talented freshmen next year, folks forget that most cannot comprehend what they need to do in the zone. That is the kiss of death for any of them (and I don't care how long armed they are) getting meaningful minutes.
 
PG - Ennis
2G - Gbinije
- Fair
- Rak
C - Coleman

Super sub forward - Grant
Super sub big - Keita
Guard sub - Cooney
Forward sub - Roberson

In case of emergency break glass designated shooter - Johnson
Probably not playing much - Patterson

Redshirt - Beef Supreme

And for anyone that immediately wants to respond "Boeheim only plays 7 yadda yadda yadda" I preemptively inform you that I fart in your general direction.
 
pg ennis 2g Gbinije Sf Fair PF Grant C DC
Cooney, Rak, Baye and Roberson come off the bench.
No one else plays much
 
PG - Ennis
2G - Gbinije
- Fair
- Rak
C - Coleman

Super sub forward - Grant
Super sub big - Keita
Guard sub - Cooney
Forward sub - Roberson

In case of emergency break glass designated shooter - Johnson
Probably not playing much - Patterson

Redshirt - Beef Supreme

And for anyone that immediately wants to respond "Boeheim only plays 7 yadda yadda yadda" I preemptively inform you that I fart in your general direction.


Yeah, I see it sort of like this with maybe Patterson potentially getting more run than Johnson. Patterson's apparent motor, wingspan, and physicality could prove to be a versatile chip on the bench plugging him into a few positions a la Harris.

I do not want to see Cooney handling the ball much.
 
Cooney and Roberson play in the regular rotation, getting back up minutes. I think Cooney might be THE most important indicator of overall team success this year. We are going to lack good outside shooters. If Cooney can fill that hole this team begins to look like a very complete team. If he can't, it starts to look like a flawed team.

Yeah, I agree on Cooney and the thing that people need to remember on him is that if all he does is put together a solid year from beyond the arc (35%-is), he's already a pretty useful and valuable all-around player. The kid contributed well this year and that was without making a thing.

Also, if you look at the history of great shooting wings who are 6'7 or 6'8 you will see that it usually takes them a year or two to adjust to the college game. Nichols couldn't hit anything his first two seasons, and went on to hit everything his last two seasons. Southerland was the same way. Even Wes Johnson's career was that way (his freshman and sophomore year at Iowa St. he was not a great shooter at all, it was not until he came to Syracuse that the three began to fall regularly).

You can add KJ to that list since he not only improved percentage-wise but also in terms of attempts (not that this was necessarily the best path his career could have taken).
 
PG - Ennis
2G - Gbinije
- Fair
- Rak
C - Coleman

Super sub forward - Grant
Super sub big - Keita
Guard sub - Cooney
Forward sub - Roberson

In case of emergency break glass designated shooter - Johnson
Probably not playing much - Patterson

Redshirt - Beef Supreme

And for anyone that immediately wants to respond "Boeheim only plays 7 yadda yadda yadda" I preemptively inform you that I fart in your general direction.

I agree with most of this but I just don't see Rak getting meaningful minutes at the 4. I admit, I said the same with Rick Jackson, so I could be way off, but I just feel like it was hard to get rak meaningful minutes at the 5 at times last year and that was by far his best position.
 
Here is my guess as to minutes played,

Ennis, Gbinije, Fair, Grant, Keita, and Coleman play starters minutes. I know I have six guys playing starters minutes and not five, but I see Keita and Coleman splitting time fairly equally.

Cooney and Roberson play in the regular rotation, getting back up minutes. I think Cooney might be THE most important indicator of overall team success this year. We are going to lack good outside shooters. If Cooney can fill that hole this team begins to look like a very complete team. If he can't, it starts to look like a flawed team.

Patterson and Christmas have a chance to get back up minutes if they impress, but likely fall to the end of the bench, and dont see much time in meaningful games.

Johnson and Chino are both red shirt candidates. I think Chino gets a shirt. I hope Johnson does, although I would not bet on it.

Here is my argument for why Johnson should red shirt his freshman year.

Johnson can play either shooting guard or forward. At forward Grant and Fair are locks to start and get big minutes. Boeheim is only going to play 3 forwards. Johnson is going to have to compete with Roberson for that third forward spot, and while I think Johnson is more skilled than Roberson, Tyler is more physically ready to bang down low right now, and in the end that will win out.

As a two, Johnson will bring length and shooting (a skill that will be much needed on this years team). However, he will not bring a ton of ball handling for a guard, and certainly will not be a pseudo second point guard the way Triche was. I think that being forced to play a true freshman point guard like Ennis will make Boeheim want to put the best ball handlers possible around him to try to lighten his load; that means playing more of Gbinije and Cooney and less of Johnson.

Also, if you look at the history of great shooting wings who are 6'7 or 6'8 you will see that it usually takes them a year or two to adjust to the college game. Nichols couldn't hit anything his first two seasons, and went on to hit everything his last two seasons. Southerland was the same way. Even Wes Johnson's career was that way (his freshman and sophomore year at Iowa St. he was not a great shooter at all, it was not until he came to Syracuse that the three began to fall regularly).

Knowing this history, and knowing that BJ is young for a D1 basketball player, and can stand to put on some muscle, I think a red shirt year helps him exponentially. Once he gets a few years under Boeheim's system I expect him to excel. Look at how dominant Southerland was in the Big East tournament last year. When a 6'7 or 6'8 guy has is going from deep he is almost impossible to stop. I look forward to years of that from BJ.

On an overall team note. I think Grant and Coleman need to show dramatic improvement for the team to be good. It is going to be the toughest for Grant because he and Fair both like to occupy the same spot on the floor. My guess is Grant works hard on his midrange shot this year, and Fair works hard on his three point shooting. Fair shot an amazing percentage from three last year but he only took wide open shots. His release is very slow. He made his living around the basket. If Fair is going to make his living outside he is going to have to improve his shot a lot. My guess is his percentage from three drops to somewhere around 35 percent, but he shoots a lot more and his shot improves a lot.

If Grant can hit the midrange shot (something he showed flashes of last year) it will allow both he and Fair to coexist, and either to drive into a mostly open lane when the situation dictates - which hopefully is often.

With Fair, Grant, and Coleman scoring a lot, Syracuse can afford to have inconsistent guards. Since none of Syracuse's guards have much experience at all, I think inconsistency is a pretty realistic expectation. On the offensive end, Fair, Grant, and Coleman are going to have to carry the load, and that will be more difficult if Cooney struggles from deep and Syracuse cant open things up by hitting outside shots.

On the defensive end, Syracuse wont be as good as they were the last two years, but I expect them to be good, and I expect Grant and Fair to be one of the better defensive forward combinations ever at Syracuse. Grant, in particular, has all the tools to be among the best defensive players Syracuse has ever had.

I don't really disagree with much that you said except for the defensive taking a step back. With Baye CJ and Grant plus any improvement by DC2 and Rak. The frontline will be as good as anyone we have ever had plus Cooney can play the zone and Mike G has been in the system for a year and has the length to be great at the top of the zone and I think Ennis has a high bball IQ and will the zone quickly.

My biggest concern with the team is shooting and that is the reason I have Cooney getting jumped. I've never seen and guard improve as dramatically as Cooney would need to to play meaningful minutes. Also I see BJ and a guard who grew and not forward trying to extend his game. But to be clear I don't care who shoots the ball as long as it goes in.

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Here is my guess as to minutes played,

Ennis, Gbinije, Fair, Grant, Keita, and Coleman play starters minutes. I know I have six guys playing starters minutes and not five, but I see Keita and Coleman splitting time fairly equally.

Cooney and Roberson play in the regular rotation, getting back up minutes. I think Cooney might be THE most important indicator of overall team success this year. We are going to lack good outside shooters. If Cooney can fill that hole this team begins to look like a very complete team. If he can't, it starts to look like a flawed team.

Patterson and Christmas have a chance to get back up minutes if they impress, but likely fall to the end of the bench, and dont see much time in meaningful games.

Johnson and Chino are both red shirt candidates. I think Chino gets a shirt. I hope Johnson does, although I would not bet on it.

Here is my argument for why Johnson should red shirt his freshman year.

Johnson can play either shooting guard or forward. At forward Grant and Fair are locks to start and get big minutes. Boeheim is only going to play 3 forwards. Johnson is going to have to compete with Roberson for that third forward spot, and while I think Johnson is more skilled than Roberson, Tyler is more physically ready to bang down low right now, and in the end that will win out.

As a two, Johnson will bring length and shooting (a skill that will be much needed on this years team). However, he will not bring a ton of ball handling for a guard, and certainly will not be a pseudo second point guard the way Triche was. I think that being forced to play a true freshman point guard like Ennis will make Boeheim want to put the best ball handlers possible around him to try to lighten his load; that means playing more of Gbinije and Cooney and less of Johnson.

Also, if you look at the history of great shooting wings who are 6'7 or 6'8 you will see that it usually takes them a year or two to adjust to the college game. Nichols couldn't hit anything his first two seasons, and went on to hit everything his last two seasons. Southerland was the same way. Even Wes Johnson's career was that way (his freshman and sophomore year at Iowa St. he was not a great shooter at all, it was not until he came to Syracuse that the three began to fall regularly).

Knowing this history, and knowing that BJ is young for a D1 basketball player, and can stand to put on some muscle, I think a red shirt year helps him exponentially. Once he gets a few years under Boeheim's system I expect him to excel. Look at how dominant Southerland was in the Big East tournament last year. When a 6'7 or 6'8 guy has is going from deep he is almost impossible to stop. I look forward to years of that from BJ.

On an overall team note. I think Grant and Coleman need to show dramatic improvement for the team to be good. It is going to be the toughest for Grant because he and Fair both like to occupy the same spot on the floor. My guess is Grant works hard on his midrange shot this year, and Fair works hard on his three point shooting. Fair shot an amazing percentage from three last year but he only took wide open shots. His release is very slow. He made his living around the basket. If Fair is going to make his living outside he is going to have to improve his shot a lot. My guess is his percentage from three drops to somewhere around 35 percent, but he shoots a lot more and his shot improves a lot.

If Grant can hit the midrange shot (something he showed flashes of last year) it will allow both he and Fair to coexist, and either to drive into a mostly open lane when the situation dictates - which hopefully is often.

With Fair, Grant, and Coleman scoring a lot, Syracuse can afford to have inconsistent guards. Since none of Syracuse's guards have much experience at all, I think inconsistency is a pretty realistic expectation. On the offensive end, Fair, Grant, and Coleman are going to have to carry the load, and that will be more difficult if Cooney struggles from deep and Syracuse cant open things up by hitting outside shots.

On the defensive end, Syracuse wont be as good as they were the last two years, but I expect them to be good, and I expect Grant and Fair to be one of the better defensive forward combinations ever at Syracuse. Grant, in particular, has all the tools to be among the best defensive players Syracuse has ever had.

Solid post. I think it is a virtual lock that Obokoh redshirts, especially if Rak returns. Given that, I can't envision redshirting a second player. I agree that it might benefit BJ Johnson's long term development. Would hate to waste a year with him as the 9th player in an 8 man rotation, when he would end up being such a better player that fifth year. But I don't see a two player redshirt situation this or any other year.
 
1.We are 7-8 deep reguardless. Fair, gbinije, ennis, cooney, grant, dajaun, keita and xmas maybe making 8.
Thats ALOT already.

2.Fair, and I suspect Gbinije will be good enough to keep someone off the floor. Cooney,Grant, Dajuan, and the return of xmas could possibly as well.

3. Alot depends on who is ready to be a solid 3rd scoring option.
3rd scoring option defintion - someone who jb thinks can put up 7 points in just 7-12 minutes in 8/9 out of 10 ACC games.

I can see Patterson, and BJ(when he gets open for 3) being true 3rd scoring options.
Roberson not so sure on yet, but I see him as a freshmen Grant just throw him out there and be aggressive like a Kristoff/freshmen Grant type.
Nobody but possibly Okoboh will be kept off the floor defensively like a Mookie, freshmen Fab, or Freshmen Coleman.

Also, I think we will easily have 6 guys who can go off for 10ppg any given night and I wouldn't be surprised to see 7 which will lead to more pressing minutes if we want to which means more depth.
Having that many scorers will spell Gbinije and Fair rests after pressing.
 
BJ- the question will be can he get open for three. He could shoot over 40% from 3 as a freshmen with enough time for his release. And don't sleep on his dribbling next to Fair. Grant Roberson and Xmas won't bring the dribbling skill that BJ can which could get him some time. Unless Gbinije plays some forward instead.

Patterson has nice lateral movement with the ball into his jumpshot.
compared to triche and mcw he has
1.A higher release.
2. more verticle arm release
3. more verticle lift on his jumper.
He won't have the dribbling skill of Triche, but I hope he can back his man a few steps down here and there instead of attacking the lane at full speed al the time.
Loves to sidestep left into his jumpshot, and hes going to learn the swag crossover back right into the meat of the lane off it overtime.

Roberson- I am going to wait to see his offense and the extent of his motor, but I know the hustle will be there.

patterson and Cooney could end up being our best defensive lineup. Looking at Gbinijes speed though I wouldn't be surprised if hes alot better of a defender then people think. He reminded me of a paul harris, josh pace, MCW, Dion speed kind of guy in transition at Midnight madness. Hes lightning quick. I am going against the grain and think he will be a pretty solid defender because of his speed.
 
Ennis
MikeG
CJ
Grant
DC2
I have a hard time figuring out the bench other than Baye getting a lot of minutes. It will come down to what we need the most and who can provide it off the bench. If its shooting does Cooney come into his own? Is it BJ and if so are his minutes at the 2 or 3? Is it Patterson and is he playing the 1 or the 2? Who is our backup PG and how does that effect minutes at the 2 and 3? It may come down to what players can be most easily plugged in with the starting group.

I love that we are going to Italy and that they start practice early this season because although I am very high on this squad there are lots of questions and peices to be figured out.
 
PG: Ennis, Cooney (believe it or not. I think Cooney works hard on his handle and is the guy to eat the backup PG minutes), Buss
SG: Mike G, Cooney, Buss
SF: Fair, Roberson, BJ
PF: Grant, Roberson,
C: Rak, DC2, BMK
RS: Chino
I don't think BJ or Buss sniff the floor this year unless its mopup duty. Every year we think Fr are going to come in a be ready to surplant older guys and they rarely turn out to be ready. Hopefully Rak or DC2 can improve enough to be effective some at the 4 too, but I'm starting to think both guys will stay at C and we'll have a nice three headed monster in the middle instead. I still have faith in Cooney. It'll only be his Soph year. He'll improve his handle and be more relaxed with his shot and be a solid contributer off the bench this year.


No, too many guys have to prove themselves for Johnson or Patterson to not get on the floor. All of the new guys are going to get to play in games up to December, when conference season starts. They'll have about 12 games to show what they've got. After that, the rotation will tighten up. With so much uncertainty about how people will perform in game situations (as opposed to practices), JB will need to give them all some run.
 
Ennis
MikeG
CJ
Grant
DC2
I have a hard time figuring out the bench other than Baye getting a lot of minutes. It will come down to what we need the most and who can provide it off the bench. If its shooting does Cooney come into his own? Is it BJ and if so are his minutes at the 2 or 3? Is it Patterson and is he playing the 1 or the 2? Who is our backup PG and how does that effect minutes at the 2 and 3? It may come down to what players can be most easily plugged in with the starting group.

I love that we are going to Italy and that they start practice early this season because although I am very high on this squad there are lots of questions and peices to be figured out.


It all starts with defense and rebounding. Remember that as we watch preseason games. Those who can rebound will get time at forward. The Centers will depend on whether Coleman can understand his defensive role and perform it this year. He's got the "best" low post game among a bunch of guys who don't show much on that end of the floor. I'd like to see him "get it" this year.
 
PG- Ennis, ???
SG- Gbinije, Cooney, Patterson
Fair, Roberson, BJ
Grant, Roberson, BJ
C- Rak, Coleman, Keita
Redshirt- Chinonso

In my estimation, coming up with a backup point guard is the biggest grey area. Gbinije played point guard in practice. Is he good enough to play point in a game? Cooney has the experience edge and showed some good ballhandling. Does he have the versatility to change his SG mindset and run an offense? Patterson probably has the best ballhandling of the three and I think I've seen him play some PG in his highlight vids (could be wrong). Will he be ready in time? I know he's an older freshman, but he's still a freshman nonetheless.

I also feel bad for Keita. I think Coleman is really going to improve for next season and possibly lead our big men in minutes by the time conference play roles around. Assuming Rak gets his head out of his a$$, that leaves Keita with scraps for minutes in most games, which is a shame given his attitude and work ethic. I really, really don't see us playing any of the 3 big men at the same time, like some people are projecting. We are too talented at the Forward positions to take up two spots with guys who can't score outside of the paint and will struggle to reach the corners on defense. We don't have a Jackson, Onuaku duo here, where their dominance in the paint outweighed any negatives and they had to be played together due to a lack of Forward depth.
 
Let's have the dreaded depth chart conversation. I know there has been some discussions in other threads but its nice to have it all in one place. So here's mine.

PG: Ennis, Patterson
SG: Mike G, BJ Johnson, Cooney
SF: CJ, Roberston
PF: Rak (token start), Grant
C: DC2, Baye, Rak

Chino RS

This, but I'd flip Gbinije and Cooney (for November, at least - we'll see how things progress).
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Johnson can play either shooting guard or forward. At forward Grant and Fair are locks to start and get big minutes. Boeheim is only going to play 3 forwards. Johnson is going to have to compete with Roberson for that third forward spot, and while I think Johnson is more skilled than Roberson, Tyler is more physically ready to bang down low right now, and in the end that will win out.

As a two, Johnson will bring length and shooting (a skill that will be much needed on this years team). However, he will not bring a ton of ball handling for a guard, and certainly will not be a pseudo second point guard the way Triche was. I think that being forced to play a true freshman point guard like Ennis will make Boeheim want to put the best ball handlers possible around him to try to lighten his load; that means playing more of Gbinije and Cooney and less of Johnson.

Also, if you look at the history of great shooting wings who are 6'7 or 6'8 you will see that it usually takes them a year or two to adjust to the college game. Nichols couldn't hit anything his first two seasons, and went on to hit everything his last two seasons. Southerland was the same way. Even Wes Johnson's career was that way (his freshman and sophomore year at Iowa St. he was not a great shooter at all, it was not until he came to Syracuse that the three began to fall regularly).

Knowing this history, and knowing that BJ is young for a D1 basketball player, and can stand to put on some muscle, I think a red shirt year helps him exponentially. Once he gets a few years under Boeheim's system I expect him to excel. Look at how dominant Southerland was in the Big East tournament last year. When a 6'7 or 6'8 guy has is going from deep he is almost impossible to stop. I look forward to years of that from BJ.

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Good take on the guards; I agree that Boeheim would like to surround the young guy with experience to the greatest extent possible - not just for ball-handling, but for defense, too.

The Johnson analysis all makes sense, but he'll probably stick it out and see some DNPs in league play. Kind of like South's first-year.

Grant's got a lot going for him, but he'll need to improve quite a bit to be a very good defender. (And I hope he drops the bad habit of bringing the ball down low that he acquired late in the season. He was so fundamental solid through about mid-February.)
 
PG- Ennis, ???
SG- Gbinije, Cooney, Patterson
Fair, Roberson, BJ
Grant, Roberson, BJ
C- Rak, Coleman, Keita
Redshirt- Chinonso

In my estimation, coming up with a backup point guard is the biggest grey area. Gbinije played point guard in practice. Is he good enough to play point in a game? Cooney has the experience edge and showed some good ballhandling. Does he have the versatility to change his SG mindset and run an offense? Patterson probably has the best ballhandling of the three and I think I've seen him play some PG in his highlight vids (could be wrong). Will he be ready in time? I know he's an older freshman, but he's still a freshman nonetheless.

I also feel bad for Keita. I think Coleman is really going to improve for next season and possibly lead our big men in minutes by the time conference play roles around. Assuming Rak gets his head out of his a$$, that leaves Keita with scraps for minutes in most games, which is a shame given his attitude and work ethic. I really, really don't see us playing any of the 3 big men at the same time, like some people are projecting. We are too talented at the Forward positions to take up two spots with guys who can't score outside of the paint and will struggle to reach the corners on defense. We don't have a Jackson, Onuaku duo here, where their dominance in the paint outweighed any negatives and they had to be played together due to a lack of Forward depth.

Yeah i've heard that Patterson has good ball handling skills, maybe the second best on the team, so it's a toss up btwn him and Gbinije as to who backs up Ennis. Supposedly Gbinije did a good job in practices this past year going up against MCW on the b team. But I think the smart money is on Patterson. Either way we'll be in good shape. I'd be surprised if Cooney is a candidate to get back up minutes at PG. I got the impression this past year that his ball handling skills are okay for a SG, but a little weak for a PG.

As for BMK, I'm actually pretty excited based on how well he stepped up in March. It seems like he finally took that big step forward that we've been waiting for since his freshman year. I expect him to continue playing at that high level all next year and commanding good minutes at C. I think it'll fire up the competition btwn DaJuan and Christmas as to who also gets over 15 minutes a game. Whoever doesn't step up will probably struggle to get meaningful minutes in big games.
 
G - Ennis
G - Gbinje
- Fair
- Rak
C - Coleman

3rd big - Keita
3rd wing - Grant
3rd guard - Cooney

Others will not get significant minutes in ACC play
 
Yeah i've heard that Patterson has good ball handling skills, maybe the second best on the team, so it's a toss up btwn him and Gbinije as to who backs up Ennis. Supposedly Gbinije did a good job in practices this past year going up against MCW on the b team. But I think the smart money is on Patterson. Either way we'll be in good shape. I'd be surprised if Cooney is a candidate to get back up minutes at PG. I got the impression this past year that his ball handling skills are okay for a SG, but a little weak for a PG.

As for BMK, I'm actually pretty excited based on how well he stepped up in March. It seems like he finally took that big step forward that we've been waiting for since his freshman year. I expect him to continue playing at that high level all next year and commanding good minutes at C. I think it'll fire up the competition btwn DaJuan and Christmas as to who also gets over 15 minutes a game. Whoever doesn't step up will probably struggle to get meaningful minutes in big games.

I could swear that a bunch of us said the same thing - word-for-word - at this time last year. Baye held his own against Sullinger, his hands are going to be great post-surgery, this is how he's going to play going forward.

Then he hit that two-month swoon and couldn't catch a defensive rebound to save his life during February.

At this point, I don't know what to expect (production-wise) from Baye. I do know that he's going to work hard, block a few shots, and maybe surprise us with another long free-throw streak. As you say, the competition will be good. And it's great for his teammates to see a veteran put forth that level of effort regardless of his on-court success.

If he's a well-rounded asset on both ends of the court, all the better.
 
yeah, i think you're right, but at the same time, it seemed like two years ago people were basing that off of just a couple good games at the end of the year - such as the Ohio State game, whereas this past year, it seemed like Baye sustained that higher level of play for over a month. if i'm remembering right, Baye started stepping up towards the end of the regular season and in the BET, and continued getting even better in the tournament. in any event, though it's far from a lock, it certainly bodes well.
 

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