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OK, so Orange is gone in favor of blue...

Crusty

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...time marches on - I get it. But if that is the case we can't be the Syracuse Orange. Orange became the official color of the University in 1890 (was pink and pea green before so change is not always bad). I don't care - our mascot is a piece of fruit for heaven's sake. We will however, need a new moniker.

Saltine Warrior went bye bye because it was not PC and besides the bones of the warrior that was discovered in Syracuse was apparently a hoax. Nobody wants to be represented be a hoax.

Whatever should we do? Guess we can look to the ancient Syracuse and see what we can find.

1. The ancient Greeks founded Syracuse and named it after a nearby marsh. Ugh - nothing there.

2. Ancient Greek tyrants ruled Syracuse for a few centuries so we could be the Tyrants? Guess not.

3. Syracuse was the capitol of Imperial Rome's Sicilian government. So we could be the Imperials! Nah, Little Anthony would be pi$$ed and would sue.

4. Syracuse was struck by two ruinous earthquakes in 1542 and 1693. We could be the Quakes!

5. The plague hit Syracuse in 1729. Hmmmmm.

6. In World War II, the Allied invasion of Sicily was code named Operation Husky. Yeah Marsh, I know .

7. The Sicilian mafia? The Dons perhaps? Oh yeah, sexist.

Let's move along to Syracuse NY. We're in the Empire State and we are New York's college team so we could be the Empires. Nah, that's a band from Chicago and not a very good one at that.

9. Geology - Salt and Limestone. Can't be the Limeys but if we were more Southern we could be the Saltine Crackers. OK, nothing here.

10. Iroquois Nation - too bad we could not honor the great Indian Confederacy. Oh wait - the Confederates! Oh yeah, I see your point.

11. The city was apparently located on a drained swamp inhabited by wolves, bears, wildcats, mud turtles and swamp rattlesnakes. Anyone partial to any of these little fellas?

12. Previous names for the city were Salt Point, Webster's Landing, Bogardus Corners, Milan, South Salina, Cossits Corners and Corinth. Man, those suck.

13. The Erie Canal!! Nothing comes to mind.

14. Syracuse was an active center for the abolitionist movement and the Underground Railroad. Hmmm - there is that railroad thing again. Let's return to this later.

15. New York Central Railroad. Syracuse was known as the city where trains passed through the middle of downtown. The NY Central dominated Washington Street for a century. See, there is that railroad thing again.

16. Syracuse is the fourth rainiest city in the US being in the St Lawrence storm track- The Syracuse Storm? Nah, St John's Red Storm is too close.

OK, the railroad theme seems to have some promise.

The Syracuse Express
The Cuse Express
The Orange Express (oh yeah, no more Orange)


Pros
  • Not a piece of fruit
  • Not racist
  • Not sexist
  • Not offensive to any particular group
  • Has historical connection
  • Has a movie (yeah I know it’s the Elmira Express but work with me here)
  • Goes with blitzes (FB) and fast breaks (BB)
  • No Otto on a golf cart
  • Great sound effects (shouldn’t the entry tune be “Locomotion?”)
  • NYC residents and commuters would identify with Express
Cons:
  • Trains aren't blue
  • Most of the current generation has probably never ridden on a train
See how hard it is when you mess with the space-time continuum?

Oh well, I guess Oranges turn blue and get all squishy when they rot, so there is that. Sorry, Otto.
 
We are, and forever will be the Orange! We may be in a phase where it's fashionable to play around in the uniform fashion sandbox. But ultimately, saner heads will prevail. Orange will rise up again. Most of us who have been around a long time know that everything goes in cycles. Right now it's uniforms. We will just ride it out.
 
We are, and forever will be the Orange! We may be in a phase where it's fashionable to play around in the uniform fashion sandbox. But ultimately, saner heads will prevail. Orange will rise up again. Most of us who have been around a long time know that everything goes in cycles. Right now it's uniforms. We will just ride it out.

You have no idea how much I hope you are correct!
 
  • Trains aren't blue
You're right, Crusty--they're ORANGE and blue!:

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How about the Wolfpack? J/k, I think that was tried once.:rolleyes:

Relax, one of our sports teams has worn blue uniforms for exactly 2 games. We are still the Orange and the alumni will continue to fight to keep that name. There is no name out there that suits us better at this point, other than maybe the Pessimists or the Constant Complainers.

I am more worried about the long-term survivability of the University (as well as other private unis) than I am about the nickname of our sports teams changing.
 
How about the Wolfpack? J/k, I think that was tried once.:rolleyes:

Relax, one of our sports teams has worn blue uniforms for exactly 2 games. We are still the Orange and the alumni will continue to fight to keep that name. There is no name out there that suits us better at this point, other than maybe the Pessimists or the Constant Complainers.

I am more worried about the long-term survivability of the University (as well as other private unis) than I am about the nickname of our sports teams changing.

I would be more worried about public universities. If you can't tax you can't invest in education. Tuition will just go higher and higher until they price themselves out of the market. Once student loans dry up and states can't tax enough the game is over. The future is pretty bleak if we insist on paying 15% of GDP in taxes instead of the historic 19-21%. Add aging demographics to the equation and things are unsustainable without tax reform. Something has to give.
 
I would be more worried about public universities. If you can't tax you can't invest in education. Tuition will just go higher and higher until they price themselves out of the market. Once student loans dry up and states can't tax enough the game is over. The future is pretty bleak if we insist on paying 15% of GDP in taxes instead of the historic 19-21%. Add aging demographics to the equation and things are unsustainable without tax reform. Something has to give.
True, but at least state universities have two ways to increase revenue (tuition hikes and tax hikes) whereas the private universities only have tuition. I know there is a lot more involved here, but I am not educated enough on the subject to go much deeper. I prefer to have my deeper discussions at cocktail parties so I can create a diversion - I'm empty. Anyone need anything from the bar???
 
True, but at least state universities have two ways to increase revenue (tuition hikes and tax hikes) whereas the private universities only have tuition. I know there is a lot more involved here, but I am not educated enough on the subject to go much deeper. I prefer to have my deeper discussions at cocktail parties so I can create a diversion - I'm empty. Anyone need anything from the bar???

Exactly, and when you eliminate tax hikes only tuition hikes are left. Higher education has gone way off track and is/will be out of the reach of the average family. I don't have any good answers - maybe the bar is the only thing left.
 
Two weeks with blue...everyone step away form the ledge devoid of orange.
 
Actually I like the change in uniforms, they look sharp on the players, and I'm old enough to remember some of the bad uniforms. As long as the players like them, and we win doesn't make any difference what the major color is.
 
Natrium chlorides
 
You guys are putting way too much into the blue uniforms. Syracuse isn't trying to become the blue. It's one uniform. The only issue is that they weren't sexy enough.
 
You guys are putting way too much into the blue uniforms. Syracuse isn't trying to become the blue. It's one uniform. The only issue is that they weren't s e x y enough.

Just a thought here, although I liked the Uniform and Helmet, we should have had Orange shirts with slight blue fading at the seems, and Blue pants with slight Orange fading at the seems, if you get my drift...
 
Just a thought here, although I liked the Uniform and Helmet, we should have had Orange shirts with slight blue fading at the seems, and Blue pants with slight Orange fading at the seems, if you get my drift...

I would've had the orange in the back of the helmets rise alittle more up the back. For the jersey's, I would've done what Boise did here. Dark blue jerseys, make the Boise State say Syracuse in Orange and have the numbers be orange fading to white.

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I would've had the orange in the back of the helmets rise alittle more up the back. For the jersey's, I would've done what Boise did here. Dark blue jerseys, make the Boise State say Syracuse in Orange and have the numbers be orange fading to white.

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Either way, I was singing the blues and it wasn't that...."Orange you glad to see the new uniforms" feeling.
 
If it helps recruiting & they keep some orange in the uniform, then it's a win win. I'm a traditionalist & have no problem with the new look. Just win baby!
 
Thomas Holley has already been quoted saying he saw them and liked them, and that he likes that we are willing to try out new things like that. That's good enough for me.
 

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