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bothsocksup said:
Why do you say that RC? Do you think we can do better than Nixon?
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I’m pragmatic. Nixon was going to leave anyways and I think we’re seeing the downside of his system if you don’t have a high end QB. He’s stubborn and sticks to his system. That works in the NFL but counting on a top end QB every year at Syracuse is hard.
 
orangepassion said:
That would be replacing the wrong coordinator
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Don’t disagree. But I’m talking myself into it given I think it’s what’s likely.

I will say Erob is at least listening to the consultants and more established DCs we’ve brought in. Hard to judge the defense last few weeks given injuries and the fact they’re on the field all the time. We need to fix the DL in offseason. Ultimately on him to recruit better players upfront.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
I’m pragmatic. Nixon was going to leave anyways and I think we’re seeing the downside of his system if you don’t have a high end QB. He’s stubborn and sticks to his system. That works in the NFL but counting on a top end QB every year at Syracuse is hard.
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I just think no system works without a decent qb. Pick any system where Collins could run efficiently. The mistake Nixon and Brown made is having Ricky as backup and their miss on evaluating him. I am pretty sure they have learned their lesson.
 
shu 49 said:
I just think no system works without a decent qb. Pick any system where Collins could run efficiently. The mistake Nixon and Brown made is having Ricky as backup and their miss on evaluating him. I am pretty sure they have learned their lesson.
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you're probably right. I'd be fine with Nixon returning given Steve though I do think we need a new OL coach based on performance. But I still suspect we have a new OC.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
you're probably right. I'd be fine with Nixon returning given Steve though I do think we need a new OL coach based on performance. But I still suspect we have a new OC.
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Another thing to think about is that it was reported that Nixon signed a multi year high dollar deal (for a coordinator) with large buyout just this past year. We were kind of expecting to only get this year out of him but also assumed he’d be poached by NFL or wherever else and they’d pay the buyout.

I don’t think he’s been bad enough where we would want to get rid of him and pay the buyout unless him and Fran aren’t really seeing eye to eye. Obviously if it’s a more mutual thing then maybe they just rip up the buyout if he wants to be more of a free agent and look around if he doesn’t have a landing spot that’s going to buy him out.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
Don’t disagree. But I’m talking myself into it given I think it’s what’s likely.

I will say Erob is at least listening to the consultants and more established DCs we’ve brought in. Hard to judge the defense last few weeks given injuries and the fact they’re on the field all the time. We need to fix the DL in offseason. Ultimately on him to recruit better players upfront.
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Agree abot the DL-They are often invisible. Jobity is the only one making plays.
 
I think it also comes down to recruiting. If ERob is struggling as DC but still allowing us to recruit talent... the defense has not been "the problem" this year. We held UConn and Clemson in check. We had really good halves against several of our ACC losses. Only so much you can do when your D starts to see itself needing to score the points because the offense cannot. We are not good enough at tackling to focus on stripping the ball and gambling on INTs.

If Nixon is essential to keep Angeli, then keep Nixon. If Nixon is part of the recruiting prowess--directly or indirectly--then we keep him. But it more depends on his happiness than ours.

Same probably goes for OL coach. If he is a good recruiter, you may have to live with him as a mediocre coach. Get an analyst in here to do the non-recruiting parts of the job.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
you're probably right. I'd be fine with Nixon returning given Steve though I do think we need a new OL coach based on performance. But I still suspect we have a new OC.
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1000 percent agree on oline coach. I also think Nixon stays one more year to fix this year on his resume. Could be wrong as I have 0 inside info.
 
Archbold44 said:
Same probably goes for OL coach. If he is a good recruiter, you may have to live with him as a mediocre coach. Get an analyst in here to do the non-recruiting parts of the job.
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He is a total zero across the board.
 
shu 49 said:
I just think no system works without a decent qb. Pick any system where Collins could run efficiently. The mistake Nixon and Brown made is having Ricky as backup and their miss on evaluating him. I am pretty sure they have learned their lesson.
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Syracuse 2001. 10 wins. RJ Anderson and Troy Nunes.

I'm not sure how you even measure this but there are probably top 25 offenses with marginal quarterbacks.
 
PhatOrange said:
Syracuse 2001. 10 wins. RJ Anderson and Troy Nunes.

I'm not sure how you even measure this but there are probably top 25 offenses with marginal quarterbacks.
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Missouri scored 17 against #3 A&M with a 3rd string QB. Our non-garbage time TDs since Angeli went down were a 15-yard drive and a defensive TD. I get the players issue... but at SOME level... this is an OC issue.
 
PhatOrange said:
Syracuse 2001. 10 wins. RJ Anderson and Troy Nunes.

I'm not sure how you even measure this but there are probably top 25 offenses with marginal quarterbacks.
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To be fair, 2001 also had Dwight Freeney. Still, that team had better oline play and ran the ball.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
you're probably right. I'd be fine with Nixon returning given Steve though I do think we need a new OL coach based on performance. But I still suspect we have a new OC.
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It's fun to think what Lincoln Riley would do with Angeli and some of the (expected) returning firepower.
 
EnviroSciGuy said:
You do? Your post made it seem otherwise, while mine seemed pretty self-explanatory.
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So you have a fantasy of Lincoln Riley becoming OC at SU? Or is it landing Brown’s job next year after both are fired?
 

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