On a scale of 1 to 10...

[Upstate]

7.5

 

[CanadianSU]

8

 

[SUFan44]

We are average. That's a five. I don't know why we would throw out 24 teams it give us a better score.

Some fat girl is a 7 when the 7+s get discarded

Average compared to what?

At the end of last season we beat Minnesota - who while not a powerhouse, was an above average D1 football team in 2013. 8-5 with wins over Penn State, Northwestern and Nebraska.

Small sample size I realize, but at the end of the day all we have to judge teams on is a 60-minute sample 12-13 times a year.

We return a large portion of that team.

I think we're above average at this point.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

7

 

[Toga]

7.04

 

[Scooch]

Well, since there are 120 FBS teams, less the 25 we randomly subtract as "10s"...that means it's about 1 point for every 10 teams from 26 to 120.

I'd guess we're in the 50s at the moment, so let's call it a 6.5.

But seriously, this is a nonsensical scale.

 

[Jamesvillecuse]

6.5

 

[crales44]

We are average. That's a five. I don't know why we would throw out 24 teams it give us a better score.

Some fat girl is a 7 when the 7+s get discarded

While I agree with the central premise of your post, on a scale of 1 to 10, 5.5 is the average. A 5 is slightly below average.

 

[rocklloyd]

9

 

[Briancuse]

6, we are slowly moving on up.

 

[Millhouse]

While I agree with the central premise of your post, on a scale of 1 to 10, 5.5 is the average. A 5 is slightly below average.

yards 86th on offense, 34th defense. average of the two = 60 out of 125 teams

record was 7-6. beating Minn got them over 500. it was great. but minn was average at best too. 107 offense, 43 defense.

i'm ok with average last year.

 

[Pyle]

Since I watch pretty much every game with beer goggles I can say without a doubt we are a 10!

 

[Alsacs]

I think we are top 50 so 6.5/10 if 10 is top 25.

 

[IthacaMatt]

If 10 = top 25, then we have to be almost an 8

On the other hand, statistically we were ranked in about the middle of the pack of the 120 teams in Division 1, so that would be a 5. An 8 rating would mean a 9 win season. I don't think we're quite there yet. We've got too many questions in the middle of our defensive line, and our secondary, although experienced, was torched quite a bit last year.

An honest answer, an objective answer, would put us at a 6 or a 7, if we live up to reasonable expectations and steal that 8th win.

 

[GoSU96]

TH is gonna turn the ACC upside down and set it on fire. 10+++.

Other than Cameron Dantley in 2008 Hunt had the worst year at QB since 2007. And it's not even close.

I think he can do much better, but turn upside down and set it on fire, uh, I don't think so. The strength of the offense, and the thing that led it to 7 wins, was the run game (I know Hunt is a big part of that) and defense.

I'm not sure MacDonald wants to run a run oriented offense.

If the plan is to have Hunt throw the ball 40 times a game, that might not be the best plan.

 

[AZOrange]

7, +/- 3

I will go with 5.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Other than Cameron Dantley in 2008 Hunt had the worst year at QB since 2007. And it's not even close.

I think he can do much better, but turn upside down and set it on fire, uh, I don't think so. The strength of the offense, and the thing that led it to 7 wins, was the run game (I know Hunt is a big part of that) and defense.

I'm not sure MacDonald wants to run a run oriented offense.

If the plan is to have Hunt throw the ball 40 times a game, that might not be the best plan.

Agreed. To many people are getting lost in the excitement of the start of the season and forgetting just how awful our offense was at points last season, especially Hunt throwing the ball. I certainly expect Hunt to take a step forward this year and I really dont want to see anymore 6-12 stat lines for 58 yards but if anyone is expecting top 25 rankings and Hunt to turn into Graves or Mcnabb this year there going to get a reality check when we hit the tough part of the schedule.

I put this team at 6 right now with a chance to get to 7-7.5 this year.

 

[AZOrange]

Agreed. To many people are getting lost in the excitement of the start of the season and forgetting just how awful our offense was at points last season, especially Hunt throwing the ball. I certainly expect Hunt to take a step forward this year and I really dont want to see anymore 6-12 state lines for 58 yards but if anyone is expecting top 25 rankings and Hunt to turn into Graves or Mcnabb this year there going to get a reality check when we hit the tough part of the schedule. I put this team at 6 right now with a chance to get to 7-7.5 this year.

And seemingly forget that we got absolutely torched against the big boys. What was Gtech ranked?

 

[JeremyCuse]

And seemingly forget that we got absolutely torched against the big boys. What was Gtech ranked?

Ya that was the most dissapointing aspect of last year, the FSU, Clemson, NW, and GaTech games were way to lopsided. Its one thing to get beat and get beat handily but we had our doors blown in on 3-4 occassions. Under Marrone even when we were totally outclassed we were never beat like that. Hoping to see a much better peformance against FSU, Clemson, and ND this year.

 

[007]

I would say 6.5-7.

We need more playmakers. We are going to have to rely on a lot of long drives. We need Estime to turn into Tavon Austin 2.0 and become a home run threat. You have to have playmakers to be a top 25, as well as being solid on the DL. I also think both our OC, and DC are still question marks. Where as I always felt we would win out in the game planning part of the game in the Marrone staff, I don't have that feeling yet with this staff. They may be the biggest question mark going into the season. This will just as big of a year for both Bullough and McDonald, as it will for any of the players.

I think we are still a class or 2 away from being a top 25 team with a chance to win EVERY game we play.

Really good post, anomander.

The lacked of proven play makers on O is a real issue. You can't expect to go into games without the threat of a player or 2 that the D has to game plan for and expect to be highly productive. I don't see us being able to sustain long time consuming drives game after game to reach the 7-8-9 win totals many here are predicting. Unless those player makers emerge - and right now, that requires a leap of faith. Brisly has a chance to be that type of player.

On D, you have the lack of a pass rush, relatively small DT's, and a first time, physically small MB. The secondary play should be better. But the D overall could take a step back this year.

 

[OrangeMojo]

I'll go with a 6 until I see a competent, well run offense in those first few games. If the offense is actually moving the ball and scoring points I might be convinced to move up to the 7-7.5 range. However, if the offense is what we've seen the last 15 years or so with the exception of a few games in 2012 or Wagner/Tulane last year - then can't be much above a 6.

 

[CousCuse]

Other than Cameron Dantley in 2008 Hunt had the worst year at QB since 2007. And it's not even close.

I think he can do much better, but turn upside down and set it on fire, uh, I don't think so. The strength of the offense, and the thing that led it to 7 wins, was the run game (I know Hunt is a big part of that) and defense.

I'm not sure MacDonald wants to run a run oriented offense.

If the plan is to have Hunt throw the ball 40 times a game, that might not be the best plan.

TH didn't get reps until he became the starter. Then with the new O and coaches it wasn't smooth at which point the staff geared everything way down to give us the best chance to win and get to a bowl game , which they did. At the end of last season and the bowl , the offense started to do quite well. I felt that if Brisley didn't drop that early TD , Cuse would have blown The B1G posers out. Learning a new offense is like taking a foreign language and having to do it while your supposed to be doing your job , not easy.

 

[Millhouse]

Other than Cameron Dantley in 2008 Hunt had the worst year at QB since 2007. And it's not even close.

I think he can do much better, but turn upside down and set it on fire, uh, I don't think so. The strength of the offense, and the thing that led it to 7 wins, was the run game (I know Hunt is a big part of that) and defense.

I'm not sure MacDonald wants to run a run oriented offense.

If the plan is to have Hunt throw the ball 40 times a game, that might not be the best plan.

he had the worst passing season. but i'm not sure how to compare him to nassib 2010

vs BCS

2010 nassib 111 rating
hunt 98 rating

hunt 439 yards rushing, 6 TD rushing
2010 nassib -89 yards "rushing", 1TD

both passer ratings stink to high heaven. does hunt's rushing performance offset his passing stinking more? it might

if given the choice ahead of time between a 111 with no rushing and a 98 with rushing, i'll go with the 98. at least hunt was good at something.

it's pretty silly to say it's not close

 

[storange]

7

 

[SU2NASA]

44