One Coach Name I like

[miamicuse]

Ok who's the R A S coach?

 

[CnyTarheel]

Your concepts about molding players to schemes..and discipline...blah ..blah ...blah is an old school concept that doesn't play in this new environment. Coaches have virtually no leverage to get players to comply today, playing time or lack there of isn't the treat that it used to be because players can just leave...
We are all unhappy with this year's team's record, but the Coach hasn't had enough time to establish any kind of program yet.

Dam doc you keeping making less sense in each new post... The coach in Louisville has had same amount of time as Red and they could win the ACC.. CHECK MATE

 

[Dr. Bill]

Dam doc you keeping making less sense in each new post... The coach in Louisville has had same amount of time as Red and they could win the ACC.. CHECK MATE

You don't have a clue about what is actually going on with programs. You are entitled to your opinions... we will just leave it there.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Ok who's the R A S coach?

Georgetown

 

[IthacaMatt]

Not sure what chances would be, but I would like Jason Hart to be considered. Been successful as an assistant coach and recruiter. Also his time as G league ignite coach and nba connections has to be attractive to players.

I've thought about him, too, in recent years. Might be too West Coast oriented with his relationships at this point.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I LOVE Mick Cronin. He teams play great defense. He could be one of those coaches looking for a change of scenery that you can attract, similar to Shaka Smart going to Marquette or Rick Barnes going to Tennessee. Cronin might want to return to the East coast if the wacko UCLA fan base turns on him in the next year or two. I think he and JB like each other from all their years coaching in the Big East so you’d have the legend’s blessing and helping to potentially lure him here.

Yeah, they don't seem to love him out there. But his teams are tough and they play defense.

Kind of the same thing as happened to Ben Howland. He would be a very solid hire, iMO.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Keep talking about coaching...while other teams amass talent

We have 2 McDonald's AA's, last year's best 3 point shooter in the ACC, a sizable big man with 3 years in a row playing in the NCAA tournament (which we haven't done once), one of the best 3 point shooting guards in high school last year, and a couple depth guys at PG and on the wing.

Our talent deficiency is not a convincing argument to me.

That team should have at least 5 more wins than we do right now, even with the injuries. Our defense is literally among the worst in the entire country. There's no getting around that.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Have you ever coached? Look at the current state of college athletics. Coaches have no leverage to combat lack of effort, hustle, and all the things you cited. You can X and O all you want, but if your players can't or won't execute, there isn't much you can do...except get new players who will. While I agree with all of the things you think a coach should be able to control, but the reality is something different.

Bill, I should boo this post.
If the player doesn't do what you ask them to do, you sit them down. Period.

They don't get highlights on the bench. They don't put up numbers to get a bigger NIL deal somewhere else if they can't get on the floor on your team.

That is the leverage. If the guy isn't willing to play for us, and everyone sees it, where do you think they will wind up, at Duke or McNeese State?

 

[IthacaMatt]

The best teams get their kids to play hard. The coaches still definitely have the upper hand still. You either teach it that way Or u allow it and coach is allowing it. If ur not playing hard defense then u should sit period. If it donny or Jj. If u don’t set expectations in any sport u will never get your team to play hard. Kids need hard lessons. Fact of life and if Red how’s them that then I’m good with another year or two but if he doesn’t then Houston we have a problem. Now on a good note team played tough defense in second half so it seems there is hope.

This shouldn't be that hard to understand for some of these Autry defenders. JB used to do it. If a guy makes a mistake or two, sit him down. That part of the game hasn't changed. That's what coaching IS!!

 

[Cuse1055]

We have 2 McDonald's AA's, last year's best 3 point shooter in the ACC, a sizable big man with 3 years in a row playing in the NCAA tournament (which we haven't done once), one of the best 3 point shooting guards in high school last year, and a couple depth guys at PG and on the wing.

Our talent deficiency is not a convincing argument to me.

That team should have at least 5 more wins than we do right now, even with the injuries. Our defense is literally among the worst in the entire country. There's no getting around that.

Exactly. We went on a long drought without a single McDonalds All American, let alone multiple. Boeheim did much more with much less. The 2001 team was a 5 seed with Billy Celuck as our starting center and our highest rated recruit being DeShaun. Obviously the 2010 team is the ultimate example of doing more with less (in terms of recruiting rankings).

 

[miamicuse]

This shouldn't be that hard to understand for some of these Autry defenders. JB used to do it. If a guy makes a mistake or two, sit him down. That part of the game hasn't changed. That's what coaching IS!!

the other leverage JB used is when he did sit someone down, that someone sat next to him and got a long winding a$$ chewing. In additional can make player do extra drills at practices.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Keep talking about coaching...while other teams amass talent

You'd have more credibility here if we were doing at least one of these things.

Also, your excuses seem to change by the day. My take from reading your posts is that you're an insider that is desperate not to lose access when (not if) an outsider is hired, even if it's access to a bottom-feeding program. A lot of posts are starting to just feel very selfish.

 

[jr4750]

We have 2 McDonald's AA's, last year's best 3 point shooter in the ACC, a sizable big man with 3 years in a row playing in the NCAA tournament (which we haven't done once), one of the best 3 point shooting guards in high school last year, and a couple depth guys at PG and on the wing.

Our talent deficiency is not a convincing argument to me.

That team should have at least 5 more wins than we do right now, even with the injuries. Our defense is literally among the worst in the entire country. There's no getting around that.

This exactly. We thought on paper before the year started we had a tournament team or at least a fringe one. Yes, there have been some injuries, but we have not looked like a well coached team at all, but have some talent for sure. At least 3 of our players could play and/or be in the rotation for most of the teams in this country.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

This exactly. We thought on paper before the year started we had a tournament team or at least a fringe one. Yes, there have been some injuries, but we have not looked like a well coached team at all, but have some talent for sure. At least 3 of our players could play and/or be in the rotation for most of the teams in this country.

Only deluded fans thought we'd be good everyone knew this team would stink defensively. Noone expected our PG to be awful ditto the coach who the fan base supported in every way imaginable his first season.

Enough talent to be a .500 ACC team sure but noone was expecting wins vs the Texas teams or Tennessee or Maryland.

 

[phil77]

But do they know what is going on behind the scenes? I think not. LOL

 

[IthacaMatt]

Only deluded fans thought we'd be good everyone knew this team would stink defensively. Noone expected our PG to be awful ditto the coach who the fan base supported in every way imaginable his first season.

Enough talent to be a .500 ACC team sure but noone was expecting wins vs the Texas teams or Tennessee or Maryland.

You should go back and look at the times we had two Mickey Dee's on the roster, and then compare it to this team.

You might say, "well, they're overrated". Well, pretty much everybody picked those guys as the Top 20 / 5 star talents in the country.

So, where does the discrepancy come from, and how are other teams w/ 2 MCDs doing right now?

We had 4 guys between 2010 and 2012, but not all at once. Christmas replaced Fab Melo, and then we added Dujuan Coleman, but honestly, he was never healthy. We also had MCW in those years. Those were some of our best teams, even with under-achieving McD's on the roster.

We had Devo, Flynn and Greene in 2005-07, plus Paul Harris in 2006. Nice bunch of talent; one Sweet 16.

Last time before that was the late 80s, early 90s glory days.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

You should go back and look at the times we had two Mickey Dee's on the roster, and then compare it to this team.

You might say, "well, they're overrated". Well, pretty much everybody picked those guys as the Top 20 / 5 star talents in the country.

So, where does the discrepancy come from, and how are other teams w/ 2 MCDs doing right now?

We had 4 guys between 2010 and 2012, but not all at once. Christmas replaced Fab Melo, and then we added Dujuan Coleman, but honestly, he was never healthy. We also had MCW in those years. Those were some of our best teams, even with under-achieving McD's on the roster.

We had Devo, Flynn and Greene in 2005-07, plus Paul Harris in 2006. Nice bunch of talent; one Sweet 16.

Last time before that was the late 80s, early 90s glory days.

6th year transfers werent a thing back then.

We likely got the worst McD AA which we couldn't have predicted.

Plenty of talk about Lampkin stats and having no blocks and the team needing to score 100 to win. Lots of stupidity about how this team would have good culture and chemistry.

 

[IthacaMatt]

6th year transfers werent a thing back then.

We likely got the worst McD AA which we couldn't have predicted.

Plenty of talk about Lampkin stats and having no blocks and the team needing to score 100 to win. Lots of stupidity about how this team would have good culture and chemistry.

"The Worst" MCD's are still better than hundreds of other recruits in their class.

 

[tbonezone]

6th year transfers werent a thing back then.

so are we past the extra years thing yet ? seeing boyz to men playing 6 years is ridiculous. 4 years. tops.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

"The Worst" MCD's are still better than hundreds of other recruits in their class.

Yes. But what is Donnie good at? He's athletic and can score put back buckets. Good enough handle to take and miss step back threes.

Unlikely to stick around bc our fans pumped his head with 1 and done talk.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Yes. But what is Donnie good at? He's athletic and can score put back buckets. Good enough handle to take and miss step back threes.

Unlikely to stick around bc our fans pumped his head with 1 and done talk.

When healthy he’s our best player. He shouldn’t have to be though. The rest of the guys around him are worse.

 

[Dr. Bill]

You'd have more credibility here if we were doing at least one of these things.

Also, your excuses seem to change by the day. My take from reading your posts is that you're an insider that is desperate not to lose access when (not if) an outsider is hired, even if it's access to a bottom-feeding program. A lot of posts are starting to just feel very selfish.

The word "EXCUSES" implies something negative attributed to explanations for the reasons something doesn't happen. What I keep articulating doesn't change from day to day...The lack of success on the court for the men and the women's hoop teams is the same...a talent disparity with their competition that is a result of the lack of financial resources to compete in the NIL/Collective landscape!

 

[5OutFred]

Louisville: New HC - proven mid-major winner, tourney bound
WVU: New HC - proven mid-major winner, tourney bound
Vanderbilt: New HC - proven mid-major winner, tourney bound

Hire winners, at any level. This doesn't have to be complicated.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

The word "EXCUSES" implies something negative attributed to explanations for the reasons something doesn't happen. What I keep articulating doesn't change from day to day...The lack of success on the court for the men and the women's hoop teams is the same...a talent disparity with their competition that is a result of the lack of financial resources to compete in the NIL/Collective landscape!

Yeah, um... no. Maybe FLJ can use this as an excuse, but Red certainly can't.

Even if this WAS true for the men's team, it has nothing to do with the absolutely abysmal in-game coaching, lack of development and fundamentals, etc.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

The word "EXCUSES" implies something negative attributed to explanations for the reasons something doesn't happen. What I keep articulating doesn't change from day to day...The lack of success on the court for the men and the women's hoop teams is the same...a talent disparity with their competition that is a result of the lack of financial resources to compete in the NIL/Collective landscape!

Even your definition of “excuse” is incorrect. It’s ‘spin.’ Another excuse.

It has been noted and demonstrated upthread that your excuses have been shifting throughout. Why is it you’re the only one who doesn’t recognize that?

Two very specific example comps were given upthread. YngstnSt, LeMoyne. And add Colgate. You need us to believe those three teams ‘amassed talent’ superior to us. Show your work, sir.

The women’s program now? Another shifting argument. You seem to need to speak in gross generalities. How can you see what we actually do and don’t do, minute by minute on the court, and not recognize/admit that our players just aren’t being prepared to play as well as the other team? Where is the offense design? Why can’t we guard anyone? Why do we have massive regression from former starters?

NIL is a factor. As it is with everyone. Which teams we have played have NIL players we couldn’t have afforded? How many instances to make a strong enough rationalization? And even if you could name some, then tell us who is responsible for the players we pursued. Who is responsible for creating a program and environment and potential for success—the overall culture—to entice better players. What, going forward, is going to be more appealing for next season, running back the same staff?

Frankly, i hope you’re a cousin of someone on the bench. And not a real medical doctor.