One thing about Dino...

[SUOrange44]

Though there are concerns about what would happen if certain high profile gigs open up, I think that certain programs would resist hiring him if for nothing else than being stubborn.

Certain schools like USC, Miami, Notre Dame, etc. would be seem to predispose themselves to a pro style coach. This would be for no reason other than the ability to sell themselves to recruits as a pro factory and the input they would get from alums who have played in the NFL. I think Dino is the absolute perfect coach for SU for so many reasons. Nationally though, although teeth will gnash each time one of the opportunities pop up, I am not sure he is viewed as highly as we know he should be...

Hiring him brings a gimmick type offense aspect even though we see it with greater regularity in the pros...

Not a ton of NFL alums under his tutelage (yet)

Perception that hiring him will require a few years and large roster overall to get the players and system in place, etc.

I think factory jobs may have a long thought process before they make what could be considered by some as a Rich Rodriguez-type hire.

Maybe I am wrong and I hope I am not but I feel pretty confident this is his final coaching stop...and we will be rewarded.

Let’s Go Orange!

SUOrange44

 

[SUGIANT]

I don’t know I see this offense all over, or at least portions of it. But you maybe right some programs are to stubborn.

 

[bevosu]

Though there are concerns about what would happen if certain high profile gigs open up, I think that certain programs would resist hiring him if for nothing else than being stubborn.

Certain schools like USC, Miami, Notre Dame, etc. would be seem to predispose themselves to a pro style coach. This would be for no reason other than the ability to sell themselves to recruits as a pro factory and the input they would get from alums who have played in the NFL. I think Dino is the absolute perfect coach for SU for so many reasons. Nationally though, although teeth will gnash each time one of the opportunities pop up, I am not sure he is viewed as highly as we know he should be...

Hiring him brings a gimmick type offense aspect even though we see it with greater regularity in the pros...

Not a ton of NFL alums under his tutelage (yet)

Perception that hiring him will require a few years and large roster overall to get the players and system in place, etc.

I think factory jobs may have a long thought process before they make what could be considered by some as a Rich Rodriguez-type hire.

Maybe I am wrong and I hope I am not but I feel pretty confident this is his final coaching stop...and we will be rewarded.

Let’s Go Orange!

SUOrange44

I think Dino would be a successful head coach anywhere in college football. He has so far.

I'd like to think that Dino has the same mindset as I. I was brought up in a military family. Moved a lot. A lot of different schools.

My senior year in high school we moved to Syracuse. I've lived here ever since. I like upstate NY. I've lived all over the world and I appreciate what upstate has to offer. Not to say everyone feels that way, but at some point, after bouncing around, it's nice to settle down and experience the stability of living in the same place longer than the average tenure of a Buffalo Bills head coach post Marv Levy.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

It is as much about his treatment while at Syracuse as anything else. Being treated with respect and being able to shape a program at the highest level doesn’t happen everywhere ( I’m assuming it does here). Whether or not Dino stays is entirely in the university’s control and it hinges on these sorts of things. Gotta watch very carefully when there is turnover at leadership positions. My two cents.

 

[texascpa]

Though there are concerns about what would happen if certain high profile gigs open up, I think that certain programs would resist hiring him if for nothing else than being stubborn.

Certain schools like USC, Miami, Notre Dame, etc. would be seem to predispose themselves to a pro style coach. This would be for no reason other than the ability to sell themselves to recruits as a pro factory and the input they would get from alums who have played in the NFL. I think Dino is the absolute perfect coach for SU for so many reasons. Nationally though, although teeth will gnash each time one of the opportunities pop up, I am not sure he is viewed as highly as we know he should be...

Hiring him brings a gimmick type offense aspect even though we see it with greater regularity in the pros...

Not a ton of NFL alums under his tutelage (yet)

Perception that hiring him will require a few years and large roster overall to get the players and system in place, etc.

I think factory jobs may have a long thought process before they make what could be considered by some as a Rich Rodriguez-type hire.

Maybe I am wrong and I hope I am not but I feel pretty confident this is his final coaching stop...and we will be rewarded.

Let’s Go Orange!

SUOrange44

But, you know, the weather!

 

[DoubleDee]

I think Dino would be a successful head coach anywhere in college football. He has so far.

I'd like to think that Dino has the same mindset as I. I was brought up in a military family. Moved a lot. A lot of different schools.

My senior year in high school we moved to Syracuse. I've lived here ever since. I like upstate NY. I've lived all over the world and I appreciate what upstate has to offer. Not to say everyone feels that way, but at some point, after bouncing around, it's nice to settle down and experience the stability of living in the same place longer than the average tenure of a Buffalo Bills head coach post Marv Levy.

I feel like he’s even said something to that extent. That he’s moved his whole life between military life and coaching. That he’s to old to keep doing this, and that Syracuse is a destination job. Or I’m crazy.

 

[Townie72]

SUOrange44 is correct.

Except that the reason the power programs run pro style offenses is because they have the athletes to do it. They can recruit the huge, athletic lines the the pro system requires. They can get the cream of the crop of skill position players.

If SU tried to out-Alabama Alabama or even Penn State, we are going to lose.

So we need a slightly different offense that allows us to recruit players that the top programs really aren't all that interested in. We need to do it differently. We need am approach or scheme that allows our second tier guys to compete with top tier players to offset the difference in size, speed and football skill.

Dino Babers is exactly what SU needs, but certainly not a fit at Clemson or Notre Dame or Oklahoma.

The schools that will find Dino attractive are those who are currently at the bottom of one of the P-5 conferences.

The question is, if Babers can continue success at SU, why would he want to go somewhere else and try and rebuild or build another currently unsuccessful program? It would take a huge sack of cash, I think.