OT-Burn it all down

[OttoinGrotto]

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Brilliant.

Gifage doesn't get better than this.

 

[NKR1978]

Only the schools can stop this. If they don't like it then admit the kids are employees, collectively bargain and pay them directly.

The schools can't stop anything. The only way to stop this is the US Supreme Court changing a ruling or collective bargaining. The Supreme Court ruled that players have a constitutional right to make money on their NIL. The cat is never going back in the bag without full unionization and an agreement by the players to allow for some regulation. But why would they?

I wish the Ivy's would decide to go FBS and embrace their heritage as football powers. That would make things interesting.

 

[upperdeck]

When it gets down to HS kids even more people will start to want to change the system.

 

[djcon57]

When it gets down to HS kids even more people will start to want to change the system.

It already is. People can want what they want. I don't see anything changing in the near future. SEC and BIG 10 will eventually essentially become "College Sports" and others will be your 1-AA for lack of a better term

 

[DMDMD]

The schools can't stop anything. The only way to stop this is the US Supreme Court changing a ruling or collective bargaining. The Supreme Court ruled that players have a constitutional right to make money on their NIL. The cat is never going back in the bag without full unionization and an agreement by the players to allow for some regulation. But why would they?

I wish the Ivy's would decide to go FBS and embrace their heritage as football powers. That would make things interesting.

That's what I'm saying. The schools will have to make them employees, the players will need a union and they'll collectively bargain. The players would for the same reason they always do: very few players make top end money, almost all players need some guarantees.

 

[Newhouser]

It already is. People can want what they want. I don't see anything changing in the near future. SEC and BIG 10 will eventually essentially become "College Sports" and others will be your 1-AA for lack of a better term

Full time athletes who take classes part time while earning a salary - just like thousands of other non-athlete, working people do.

 

[NKR1978]

That's what I'm saying. The schools will have to make them employees, the players will need a union and they'll collectively bargain. The players would for the same reason they always do: very few players make top end money, almost all players need some guarantees.

But even if the schools make them employees, that won't slow down NIL.

 

[upperdeck]

But even if the schools make them employees, that won't slow down NIL.

they can only control NIL with union support.

Like a Syracuse employee can't go around and make money off that and most of them arent even union.

I mean union rules could make it like tips at a bar. Make all the NIL you want but X amount goes into the fund.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

Brilliant.

Gifage doesn't get better than this.

This means a lot coming from the man himself.

Yes, I’m purposely bumping this during peak 2nd break Friday afternoon slack off time.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

This means a lot coming from the man himself.

Yes, I’m purposely bumping this during peak 2nd break Friday afternoon slack off time.

Game recognize game.

 

[DMDMD]

But even if the schools make them employees, that won't slow down NIL.

Collectives would presumably give money to the school to pay players directly rather than “independently” negotiate fraudulent NIL deals. Other nil, like doing commercials or autograph signing would stay.

 

[upperdeck]

Once you call them employees its easier to enforce restrictions.

 

[JKinPhilly]

Once you call them employees it’s easier to enforce restrictions.

Why does their earnings need to be restricted?

 

[shandeezy7]

Why does their earnings need to be restricted?

Why are NBA player’s earnings restricted?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Why are NBA player’s earnings restricted?

It's an interesting question, because the NBA salaries are restricted but their other earnings are not, and college athletes technically only have the other earnings.

 

[shandeezy7]

It's an interesting question, because the NBA salaries are restricted but their other earnings are not, and college athletes technically only have the other earnings.

But their other earnings are restricted. For example, James Dolan can’t have one of his billionaire buddies offer a prized free agent a lucrative endorsement deal to entice him to sign with the Knicks - essentially skirting the salary cap. But that’s exactly what’s happening in college athletics right now.

Pay the players directly, have contracts between the schools and the players and have NIL be true NIL - not the absolute farce that it is right now.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

But their other earnings are restricted. For example, James Dolan can’t have one of his billionaire buddies offer a prized free agent a lucrative endorsement deal to entice him to sign with the Knicks - essentially skirting the salary cap. But that’s exactly what’s happening in college athletics right now.

Pay the players directly, have contracts between the schools and the players and have NIL be true NIL - not the absolute farce that it is right now.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[donniesyracuse]

Why are NBA player’s earnings restricted?

Because billionaires convinced rube fans it is about competitive balance.

 

[shandeezy7]

Because billionaires convinced rube fans it is about competitive balance.

Well it actually sort of is. May not have been their primary objective, but it’s certainly a byproduct.

 

[upperdeck]

Why does their earnings need to be restricted?

why do most jobs have restrictions. many companies have levels of pay that limit top end salary. You also cant you your company name outside of work to make money or promote things as well.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Was told that OSU had an NIL fundraiser and raised 50MM in an hour.

 

[JKinPhilly]

why do most jobs have restrictions. many companies have levels of pay that limit top end salary. You also cant you your company name outside of work to make money or promote things as well.

Sure, but there’s also no regulating body telling Google what their salary cap for software engineers is, or telling those engineers their earning potential is capped at a certain artificial amount.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Well it actually sort of is. May not have been their primary objective, but it’s certainly a byproduct.

It is all debatable and depends on how one defines and measures “competitive balance,” but to me, the league with the fewest restrictions, MLB, has the most competitive balance.

 

[shandeezy7]

It is all debatable and depends on how one defines and measures “competitive balance,” but to me, the league with the fewest restrictions, MLB, has the most competitive balance.

In my mind, that has way more to do with the individual impacts on the game than anything else. Basketball success is almost exclusively superstar driven (sans those early 2000’s Pistons teams). NFL success is almost exclusively QB driven (how many Super Bowl champs have there been in the last 25 years that didn’t have a top 5ish QB?).

In baseball, your superstar pitchers are still only throwing once every 5 games and your superstar hitters are still only getting 4 at bats per game. It leaves a lot of room for smart teams to fill in those holes elsewhere and make runs. Can’t just plug and play random QB’s in the NFL and find success and NBA superstars don’t grow on trees.

 

[donniesyracuse]

In my mind, that has way more to do with the individual impacts on the game than anything else. Basketball success is almost exclusively superstar driven (sans those early 2000’s Pistons teams). NFL success is almost exclusively QB driven (how many Super Bowl champs have there been in the last 25 years that didn’t have a top 5ish QB?).

In baseball, your superstar pitchers are still only throwing once every 5 games and your superstar hitters are still only getting 4 at bats per game. It leaves a lot of room for smart teams to fill in those holes elsewhere and make runs. Can’t just plug and play random QB’s in the NFL and find success and NBA superstars don’t grow on trees.

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