OT - dorm opinion

[Nicknack]

Not a recent graduate , but I would recommend strongly against Day or Flint. It is a real pain to go up and down those steps... especially in bad weather. I don't know which classes they are putting into Ernie Davis this year, but that's a pretty nice place.

As a 44-year old, I agree wholeheartedly with you. However, as an 18-year old, living in Day Hall was one of the best years of my life. I remember trekking up and down those stairs like it was yesterday. At the time, I actually thought it was kind of cool not to mention how close it is to the Dome. Things that bother me now (i.e. cold weather) were a non-issue back then.

Oh yeah... as for walking up the stairs, we would often walk on the roof if we were drunk enough. We would sometimes race up and the one who finished last would have to take a shot of Popov Vodka (or whatever else we had on hand). Point being, we made the experience fun and as an 18-year old, things like that aren't much of a big deal for most.

 

[OttoMets]

Thanks. I was gonna ask about Thorndon. Some areas of it can be bad. I assume if students go over there, that immediate area must be OK. DellPlain is where they have one of those Learning Communities for freshman in the Whitman School. Plus it seems centrally located to where he will have many of his classes at Whitman and the Ischool. Plus it's near the library. I know kids can't pick their dorm but if a freshman chooses to be in one of those learning communities it gives them an advantage on the dorm given.

Thornden's good; the rare crime seems to visit solo students walking across the park late at night (and occasionally less than sober). Dellplain is a great location and a younger sibling ('08-'09) tells me that it's a decent place to live: the split double is terrific; the building hasn't been renovated for a few years but isn't ancient. It's under a ten-minute walk to virtually anything, which is nice.

 

[jekelish]

Lived there as a frosh and soph much too long ago...

Location is top-notch and the split doubles were key...

Kimmel Dining Hall, if it still exists, was right across the street.

Wimpy wagon right outside the dorm on Comstock...

Hubba (Yes, that was his nickname; he was in Phi-Psi) sleeping in the trash...The six-foot bong at the end of the 6th floor...Co-ed floors by room and periodic coed bathrooms...but I digress...

Hopefully it has been redone since I lived there 30 years ago (ouch, just typing that hurts)...

Wimpy Wagon...wasn't that the one that got busted for selling cocaine along with food? When I was there, there was one that got busted for selling coke, which apparently you would order by asking for extra lettuce.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Wimpy Wagon...wasn't that the one that got busted for selling cocaine along with food? When I was there, there was one that got busted for selling coke, which apparently you would order by asking for extra lettuce.

Honestly don't know.

Thank God I always ordered pizza rolls...no lettuce...

It was still there when I graduated in '88 so, if he got busted, it was after I was gone and before I got internet...

Wouldn't surprise me though...the amount of drug use was staggering...

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Not a recent graduate , but I would recommend strongly against Day or Flint. It is a real pain to go up and down those steps... especially in bad weather. I don't know which classes they are putting into Ernie Davis this year, but that's a pretty nice place.

Other must know facts about CTOs time on the Hill:

Pink and Blue were school colors
Hall of Languages was the only Building

She had already graduated but her first known photograpgh is a picture of her sitting behind the bench watching the RPI game during the 'Cuse's inaugural season...

 

[CuseCPT]

Wimpy Wagon...wasn't that the one that got busted for selling cocaine along with food? When I was there, there was one that got busted for selling coke, which apparently you would order by asking for extra lettuce.

Yeah that's him. He was a weird dude, but man did he sell some good egg rolls.

 

[CuseCactus]

Day was tough for 2 very important reasons - (1) it was too far from M Street and (2) it sucked being a pledge and having to hoof it down to Walnut Park to get random beers for the brothers - at 1 in the morning. Ah college. Back to the salt mines now.

 

[Madbiker]

Not recent...lived in Flint my freshman & soph years and it was great. At that age the steps aren't a big problem and when you get down you are right on the quad. I thought it was a great location. Graham dining hall is right between Flint and Day and it's connected to the dorms by tunnel so you didn't have to walk outside in the cold and snow which was a big plus.

 

[MikeSU02]

It sounds like Dellplain would work for what he is interested in and location. I went to undergrad from 98-02 and grad from 02-04. I never really thought Thornden was very appealing (played some football and bball there, though).

I don't believe they have all frosh dorms anymore, but I lived in Day Hall and absolutely loved it. The stairs weren't that bad (when I was 18) and I loved walking down and being right on the quad.

I think one thing that is proven from this thread, you can have fun and enjoy your residence wherever you end up. As long as your son isn't on this board as much as the rest of us, I'm sure he'll make a ton of friends and have a blast.

Good luck to him and hope you enjoy getting to be an SU dad.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Not a recent graduate , but I would recommend strongly against Day or Flint. It is a real pain to go up and down those steps... especially in bad weather. I don't know which classes they are putting into Ernie Davis this year, but that's a pretty nice place.

I lived in Flint my Freshman year. I walked up those steps about six times a day.

 

[bpo57]

Thornden's good; the rare crime seems to visit solo students walking across the park late at night (and occasionally less than sober). Dellplain is a great location and a younger sibling ('08-'09) tells me that it's a decent place to live: the split double is terrific; the building hasn't been renovated for a few years but isn't ancient. It's under a ten-minute walk to virtually anything, which is nice.

Thornden is NOT good. My son is a senior at SU living in a house on Ackerman (very close to Thornden) and just had his house broken into. I've read articles in the Daily Orange and have also seen postings from SU parents on Facebook. I wouldn't call it an epidemic but its bad. My son spoke to cops investigating his break-in and they said it happens all of the time. And it isn't just burglaries. Assaults and muggings as well. I have a senior in HS that is considering SU - plenty of positives about SU but this is clearly a negative.

 

[OttoMets]

Thornden is NOT good. My son is a senior at SU living in a house on Ackerman (very close to Thornden) and just had his house broken into. I've read articles in the Daily Orange and have also seen postings from SU parents on Facebook. I wouldn't call it an epidemic but its bad. My son spoke to cops investigating his break-in and they said it happens all of the time. And it isn't just burglaries. Assaults and muggings as well. I have a senior in HS that is considering SU - plenty of positives about SU but this is clearly a negative.

I know a lot more about this subject that you do. We could do without that sort of contradiction here.

 

[orange79]

I know a lot more about this subject that you do. We could do without that sort of contradiction here.

What's with the attitude? You have different opinions. You both speak from personal experience. No need to be like that. Let the OP form an opinion from what you both have to say.

 

[OttoMets]

What's with the attitude? You have different opinions. You both speak from personal experience. No need to be like that. Let the OP form an opinion from what you both have to say.

I don't appreciate the direct contradiction or the manner in which it was given. I offered an opinion. I was addressed by someone who seems to be talking about something else entirely (Bees asked about Thornden, I talked about Thornden, this person is talking about a burglary on Ackerman).

If anyone wants to share personal experience about Thornden, fantastic. Here's a bit of mine: I own a home in the neighborhood and have spent hundreds of hours of volunteer work in the park. When hearsay and innuendo keeps people out of that public space (or even causes others to continue this cycle of myth-spreading), it makes my community a worse place.

 

[orange79]

I don't appreciate the direct contradiction or the manner in which it was given. I offered an opinion. I was addressed by someone who seems to be talking about something else entirely (Bees asked about Thornden, I talked about Thornden, this person is talking about a burglary on Ackerman).

If anyone wants to share personal experience about Thornden, fantastic. Here's a bit of mine: I own a home in the neighborhood and have spent hundreds of hours of volunteer work in the park. When hearsay and innuendo keeps people out of that public space (or even causes others to continue this cycle of myth-spreading), it makes my community a worse place.

The responder posted personal experience, which sadly is different from yours. Just like you, the poster offered an opinion. I'm sorry you don't appreciate the direct contradiction, but the poster obviously has a much different opinion/experience from yours. It doesn't make it any less valid.

 

[OttoMets]

The responder posted personal experience, which sadly is different from yours. Just like you, the poster offered an opinion. I'm sorry you don't appreciate the direct contradiction, but the poster obviously has a much different opinion/experience from yours. It doesn't make it any less valid.

He stated it as fact, in an aggressive manner (the capitalization), and -- again -- he's talking about something different: a burglary in a rental house, not Thornden Park.

I'm not sure why you're addressing this, but if you're criticizing my posts, you're as off-base as he is.

 

[bpo57]

I know a lot more about this subject that you do. We could do without that sort of contradiction here.

Contradiction? Lol. You make some ridiculous comments in this thread. Go back and read the thread and you'll see I chronicled my experience before you commented on how Thornden was "good".

You reference Ackerman as if its in another county. Rory McIlroy could play driver, three wood from my son's house and then he'd be playing his 3rd shot inside Thornden Park. Is that close enough for ya?

My personal experience includes what happened to my son, other friends of his in the neighborhood, posts from parents on Facebook, comments from the Syracuse police and articles from the DO. But no worries, keep on dreaming that nothing bad happens in the area.

 

[OttoMets]

Contradiction? Lol. You make some ridiculous comments in this thread. Go back and read the thread and you'll see I chronicled my experience before you commented on how Thornden was "good".

You reference Ackerman as if its in another county. Rory McIlroy could play driver, three wood from my son's house and then he'd be playing his 3rd shot inside Thornden Park. Is that close enough for ya?

My personal experience includes what happened to my son, other friends of his in the neighborhood, posts from parents on Facebook, comments from the Syracuse police and articles from the DO. But no worries, keep on dreaming that nothing bad happens in the area.

If you've got anything to share about Thornden Park, feel free to add to my post.

Sorry about your son's misfortune.

 

[bpo57]

If you've got anything to share about Thornden Park, feel free to add to my post.

Sorry about your son's misfortune.

I guess Thornden Park is an oasis immune to the disorder several hundred yards away. Not trying to knock your neighborhood but if I were a prospective SU parent I would want to know this info. My wife kept telling me how she read about a rash of robberies near Thornden Park and my son and I would tell her she was overreacting. Not anymore. Btw google "robberies near Thornden Park" then settle in for some interesting reading.

 

[OttoMets]

I guess Thornden Park is an oasis immune to the disorder several hundred yards away. Not trying to knock your neighborhood but if I were a prospective SU parent I would want to know this info. My wife kept telling me how she read about a rash of robberies near Thornden Park and my son and I would tell her she was overreacting. Not anymore. Btw google "robberies near Thornden Park" then settle in for some interesting reading.

Without further monopolizing the thread, I'm familiar with maybe ten such incidents in the last five years. I covered that in my post - always a good idea to be aware of one's surroundings, not walk around solo at night with ear buds in, that kind of thing.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Without further monopolizing the thread, I'm familiar with maybe ten such incidents in the last five years. I covered that in my post - always a good idea to be aware of one's surroundings, not walk around solo at night with ear buds in, that kind of thing.

Tell you what, I'll trump both you and BPO.

I grew up in that neighborhood 40 years ago.

The area is no better or no worse than it ever was.

Thornden is fine by day and iffy by night and has been this way for at least 40 years. Run into the wrong crowd and you are in trouble.

And housing has been getting broken into in this neighborhood since I was a kid.

The combination of economically disadvantaged neighborhoods within spitting distance of the university, a relatively wealthy student base with lots of desirable goods and frequent times when houses are empty makes for tempting targets.

BTW, you can also get mugged on the quad or in Walnut Park or on Comstock or Euclid or the Mount or the cemetary or almost any other place on, or near, campus. Thornden does not have a monopoly on that by any means.

 

[jekelish]

Tell you what, I'll trump both you and BPO.

I grew up in that neighborhood 40 years ago.

The area is no better or no worse than it ever was.

Thornden is fine by day and iffy by night and has been this way for at least 40 years. Run into the wrong crowd and you are in trouble.

And housing has been getting broken into in this neighborhood since I was a kid.

The combination of economically disadvantaged neighborhoods within spitting distance of the university, a relatively wealthy student base with lots of desirable goods and frequent times when houses are empty makes for tempting targets.

BTW, you can also get mugged on the quad or in Walnut Park or on Comstock or Euclid or the Mount or the cemetary or almost any other place on, or near, campus. Thornden does not have a monopoly on that by any means.

^ what he said

 

[rocklloyd]

Not recent...lived in Flint my freshman & soph years and it was great. At that age the steps aren't a big problem and when you get down you are right on the quad. I thought it was a great location. Graham dining hall is right between Flint and Day and it's connected to the dorms by tunnel so you didn't have to walk outside in the cold and snow which was a big plus.

What years were you in flint. I was on 4c from 87-89

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I lived on Ackerman for 2 years, 20 years ago. After awhile I just left my car unlocked and my back window broken, was easier than replacing glass and locks every month. Fact is, ithaca houses get broken into all the time as well around campus. Thieves no when the kids are home on break, etc.

I think it's been a problem up there for years... Probably a problem in most rental houses in college areas.

I did find myself in an interesting foot race one night from Westcott street home to Ackerman but these guys weren't interested in a foot race.. I think I ran a sub 4 mile.

 

[Stevenson]

Flint