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OT: One good one, one bad one

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Was on Keith Arnold's ND blog catching up on the Irish as I follow ND a little bit.

I know people love to hate ND and I'm fine with that as I'm sure there is plenty of reasons to hate the Irish, but as one of the few people who think these kids could actually get HUGE benefit from college educations, I do think it's cool that ND does try in some ways to continue the practice of having actual student-athletes. There are still halfway decent admissions requirements (not the same as for non-athletes, but still ...) and kids still have to adhere to some form of student conduct (see: the suspensions of Golson, Ishaq and the kids who cheated, Greg Bryant, Jerian Grant ...), etc.

Then there is this article, where a bunch of the players were encouraged to study abroad this summer. I think that's really cool and I don't even think it's a negative from a football point of view. Really cool story and I wish more programs like the Cuse would encourage kids to actually take advantage of some of the academic options at their disposal in the four or five years they are on campus. I highly doubt it will catch on, but it's nice to see that at least one school (and if there are others outside of ND, that's great) is willing to let kids escape what has to be an incredibly monotonous cycle of football-only activities for at least a little bit during the summer.

Then there's this article. Somebody gifted the university $35M for a coaching endowment? Seriously. I get that this goes on everywhere and I get that no school wants to end up with a bunch of bumbling idiots running their program, but come on people. Maybe it's too narrow to think this way but as a person with a son who has Down syndrome and other family members dealing with dementia/Alzheimer's, brain cancer and Parkinson's, it's sickening to think that there are morons out there who are throwing $35M away to make sure a total blowhard like Brian Kelly gets to live in the lap of luxury. Annoying.
 
Interesting question. How many schools have booster-funded coaching endowments? Can individual scholarships be similarly funded through an endowment?
 
Interesting question. How many schools have booster-funded coaching endowments? Can individual scholarships be similarly funded through an endowment?

I'm not sure but I thought I read a while back that Temple was trying to endow a point guard scholarship. Can't find anything on it at the moment though, so maybe I'm wrong.
 
Interesting question. How many schools have booster-funded coaching endowments? Can individual scholarships be similarly funded through an endowment?

Yes and Yes. I believe SU actually has both -pretty sure MLax HC is endowed and I heard there is a Joe Szombathy endowed scholarship for a TE.
 
Interesting question. How many schools have booster-funded coaching endowments? Can individual scholarships be similarly funded through an endowment?
Lots of the big players in D-I have many endowed coaching positions/athletic scholarships. I'm thinking Ohio St falls into this category, and I know Stanford endows Johnny Dawkins' position, which probably means that Shaw's job is endowed also.

I would comment that it would be better that academic positions be endowed, but you can bet that any professor who gets one of those positions spends little, if any, time in the classroom; concentrating instead on writing grant applications and doing research. Which is good for a school's reputation, anyway.
 
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Lots of the big players in D-I have many endowed coaching positions/athletic scholarships. I'm thinking Ohio St falls into this category, and I know Stanford endows Johnny Dawkins' position (which probably means that Shaw's job is endowed also.

I would comment that it would be better that academic positions be endowed, but you can bet that any professor who gets one of those positions spends little, if any, time in the classroom; concentrating instead on writing grant applications and doing research. Which is good for a school's reputation, anyway.

I've been told I'm well endowed. Is this something I should email Mark Coyle to tell him about if it will help the program?
 
People can spend their money however they want... but yeah, the funding of college athletics is fairly obscene.

This is a fair point and I'll add that I'm being a bit hypocritical here b/c if he wants to send $35M SU's way, I'm cool with that.

I don't know that I'm upset about what I see as a waste of money per se, since you are right and really people can do what they want with their cash. It's more the general idea that you're making a 'charitable ' donation to an institution that is literally just sitting on a general endowment of $10 billion and making sure the head coach, who's already making $4M a year (and would get a huge raise if he keeps winning) has some extra coin to get a few perks. It just feels like you could literally argue that going out and buying $35M worth of diamonds and jewelry for your mistress would honestly no worse, right?

Anyway, your point is fair and my criticism is admittedly unfair for a variety of reasons including the point that I don't know how I'd react if I had $35M to just hand out to someone or some organization, but I just find it weird that someone who has experienced life on this planet for six or seven decades decided that was an ideal cause for what is truly a difference-making sum of money.
 

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