OT: Penn State Postseason Eligibility Restored

[RandygoCuse]

Is there anyone involved in the scandal who is still at Penn State now? Who gets punished if they keep the sanctions?

 

[MikeSU02]

Because of this lifting, it means that USC got harsher penalties for Reggie Bush than PSU did for Sandusky.

I lost the citation for this, but it came from an ESPN reporter. Will try to find.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Is there anyone involved in the scandal who is still at Penn State now? Who gets punished if they keep the sanctions?

They could have left the scholarships at 85, but there also should have been a tv/bowl ban.

 

[TheCusian]

Is there anyone involved in the scandal who is still at Penn State now? Who gets punished if they keep the sanctions?

That doesn't matter at all. The punishment was dealt as a blow to the University for a lack of institutional control. The University needed to be reprimanded.

Of course that's all horsesh!te now.

 

[Moontan]

Is there anyone involved in the scandal who is still at Penn State now? Who gets punished if they keep the sanctions?

RandyGoPSU?

The sanctions were intended to send a message to the entire PSU community. Football (and the related fanaticism) should not be an excuse to break the law and overlook common decency. I don't believe they got the message and now the NCAA is ensuring that they never will. The Death Penalty was warranted, and needed.

 

[javadoc]

Is there anyone involved in the scandal who is still at Penn State now? Who gets punished if they keep the sanctions?

The culties who flock from around the state to fill the stadium, who write checks to the AD, who insist that Paterno was blameless and got a raw deal. The program needed to be brought down until the cult was broken.

 

[NashvilleOrange]

I'm glad OU vs Tennessee and USC vs BC are on at the same time as the Rutgers - Penn State game. If I didn't have a good game to distract me I'd probably snap watching the score or God forbid the game itself.

 

[baggerbob]

The NCAA and Penn St better hope Franklin is a hell of a lot cleaner than he appears to be...good luck with that.

His actions at Vanderbilt, have the appearance of being a snake, and that wouldn't change just by being in a new place.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

If the NCAA checks in their rear view mirror right about now they'll see their integrity.

 

[RandygoCuse]

The culties who flock from around the state to fill the stadium, who write checks to the AD, who insist that Paterno was blameless and got a raw deal. The program needed to be brought down until the cult was broken.

I don't think that would have happened even if the sanctions didn't end early.

 

[JeremyCuse]

RandyGoPSU?

The sanctions were intended to send a message to the entire PSU community. Football (and the related fanaticism) should not be an excuse to break the law and overlook common decency. I don't believe they got the message and now the NCAA is ensuring that they never will. The Death Penalty was warranted, and needed.

As much as your probably right the death penalty was never an option that was going to fly. As horrific as that situation was it didnt give PSU an advantage on the football field which is what is needed ie the SMU situation in which a death penalty situation could apply, and even at that point SMU had been on probation already and warned repeatedly to stop before they finally got the death penalty.

The problem the NCAA ultimately ran into is that everyone who was reponsible for that horrific scenario playing out is either A. Dead B. In Jail C. No longer associated with the program. At this point your punishing PSU superfans and current players who probably couldnt pick Sandusky out of a lineup if you paid them. The NCAA was scared S less that a federal jury would side with PSU and hit them with huge damages so they basically folded there tent at this point and said "mission accomplished". I always figured the sanctions would never last the entire time it was enivitable unfortunately.

 

[JeremyCuse]

I don't think that would have happened even if the sanctions didn't end early.

Unfortunately your right, just check out the comments on the ESPN article from PSU super fans. Even a death penalty for a year would have done nothing to change there minds or opinions.

 

[RandygoCuse]

As much as your probably right the death penalty was never an option that was going to fly. As horrific as that situation was it didnt give PSU an advantage on the football field which is what is needed ie the SMU situation in which a death penalty situation could apply, and even at that point SMU had been on probation already and warned repeatedly to stop before they finally got the death penalty.

The problem the NCAA ultimately ran into is that everyone who was reponsible for that horrific scenario playing out is either A. Dead B. In Jail C. No longer associated with the program. At this point your punishing PSU superfans and current players who probably couldnt pick Sandusky out of a lineup if you paid them. The NCAA was scared S less that a federal jury would side with PSU and hit them with huge damages so they basically folded there tent at this point and said "mission accomplished". I always figured the sanctions would never last the entire time it was enivitable unfortunately.

Thanks Jeremy - I think it's important to remember that the huge majority of the individuals associated with Penn State football had nothing to do with what happened. I'm glad Sandusky is dead, Paterno's statue was taken down, and the leaders of the school that chose to look the other way are gone.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Thanks Jeremy - I think it's important to remember that the huge majority of the individuals associated with Penn State football had nothing to do with what happened. I'm glad Sandusky is dead, Paterno's statue was taken down, and the leaders of the school that chose to look the other way are gone.

Look I have no sympathy for Penn State or its fans at all not one iota but as you noted everyone associated with this happening is gone and some cases have passed away. Anyone associated with what happened should be prosecuted to the fullest extent but giving a current player at penn state who at this point was born in what 1994 or 1995 some type of penalty makes zero sense to me.

 

[Orangepace]

Thanks Jeremy - I think it's important to remember that the huge majority of the individuals associated with Penn State football had nothing to do with what happened. I'm glad Sandusky is dead, Paterno's statue was taken down, and the leaders of the school that chose to look the other way are gone.

I think Sandusky is still alive and Joe is dead.

The NCAA looks like a bunch of fools given everything that has been happening... Miami sanctions or lack thereof, PSU scandal, P5 pulling the strings now, etc... I wish SU would have just sucked it up and played Fab Melo at this point..

 

[retro44]

In unrelated news, Western Kentucky will now receive the death penalty.

no news on oklahomo...

FWIW...I still say Emmert and GOODELL are lovers and both are losers

 

[NashvilleOrange]

His actions at Vanderbilt, have the appearance of being a snake, and that wouldn't change just by being in a new place.

https://twitter.com/NCAA/status/509046250260664320
Yep, hiring another person who covers up rape really lines up with the NCAA's findings of "progress in ensuring athletics dept functions with integrity"

 

[retro44]

Look I have no sympathy for Penn State or its fans at all not one iota but as you noted everyone associated with this happening is gone and some cases have passed away. Anyone associated with what happened should be prosecuted to the fullest extent but giving a current player at penn state who at this point was born in what 1994 or 1995 some type of penalty makes zero sense to me.

Jeremy just look at who they hired since then....Franklin is involved in a sex/rape scandal at Vandy that is still current. Then PED U. hires the president of FSU when Famous was involved in his very little rape deal.

Next Ray Rice will become their A.D. OH !!!!! HEY,THEY STILL HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.

Emmert probably has a luxury box waiting for him in happy,happy.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Jeremy just look at who they hired since then...Franklin is involved in a s e x/rape scandal at Vandy that is still current. Then PED U. hires the president of FSU when Famous was involved in his very little rape deal.

Next Ray Rice will become their A.D. OH !!!!! HEY,THEY STILL HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.

Emmert probably has a luxury box waiting for him in happy,happy.

Oh I agree that the overall culture and fandom has not changed one bit but that wasnt going to change short of 5 year death penalty sentence or something outlandish like that.

 

[tipphill]

this is the end of the line----ncaa has no credibility--- condone pedophile for the sake of money---unreal---i would ignore anything that they do and this should be their demise---i wonder if delaney and the big 1o had influence on this. ooc should refuse to play psu. disgraceful ruling by ncaa

 

[rrlbees]

As much as your probably right the death penalty was never an option that was going to fly. As horrific as that situation was it didnt give PSU an advantage on the football field which is what is needed ie the SMU situation in which a death penalty situation could apply, and even at that point SMU had been on probation already and warned repeatedly to stop before they finally got the death penalty. The problem the NCAA ultimately ran into is that everyone who was reponsible for that horrific scenario playing out is either A. Dead B. In Jail C. No longer associated with the program. At this point your punishing PSU superfans and current players who probably couldnt pick Sandusky out of a lineup if you paid them. The NCAA was scared S less that a federal jury would side with PSU and hit them with huge damages so they basically folded there tent at this point and said "mission accomplished". I always figured the sanctions would never last the entire time it was enivitable unfortunately.

Almost every time there are ncaa penalties, innocent people feel the brunt of it.

 

[RandygoCuse]

I think Sandusky is still alive and Joe is dead.

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Right... Me stupid - I meant to say in jail

 

[JeremyCuse]

Almost every time there are ncaa penalties, innocent people feel the brunt of it.

But in nearly all of those cases the schools were gaining some type of an advantage on the field, in this case there wasn't.

 

[storange]

Absolutely disgusting. what more can i say

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Oh I agree that the overall culture and fandom has not changed one bit but that wasnt going to change short of 5 year death penalty sentence or something outlandish like that.

Then an outlandish punishment was called for.