Our constant over scheduling contributes to the problem

[statsgrad]

Just as many fairweathers, if not more, would show up at the dome to watch a 3-0 team take on directional state as an 0-3 team play LSU.

 

[Chris02M]

lsu game next year will be a sellout as we should be at worst 2-1 heading into the game. LSU game slot doesn't look too bad if you see LSU's schedule the 2 weeks prior to them coming to the dome. @ MISS State and the Home vs Auburn

 

[Ozcuse]

lsu game next year will be a sellout as we should be at worst 2-1 heading into the game. LSU game slot doesn't look too bad if you see LSU's schedule the 2 weeks prior to them coming to the dome. @ MISS State and the Home vs Auburn

Reserving this spot for when we lose by 2 TDs+ and we are asking WHY WHY WHY do we keep doing this to ourselves?!?

 

[Chris02M]

Reserving this spot for when we lose by 2 TDs+ and we are asking WHY WHY WHY do we keep doing this to ourselves?!?

ill be there to see it and it will be in primetime

 

[Bayside44]

We respect the formula put in place during the Big East times, but this is very different.

For anyone who plans to be alive for 40 years, how many times do you expect to see us beat FSU? Then Clemson? Why make it harder than it needs to be (settle down, Chipper)

 

[Chris02M]

We respect the formula put in place during the Big East times, but this is very different.

For anyone who plans to be alive for 40 years, how many times do you expect to see us beat FSU? Then Clemson? Why make it harder than it needs to be (settle down, Chipper)

depends if they change the divisions

 

[MartyCuse]

I also think that our program needs to schedule to make a bowl... Not for the money or the banner but more importantly the extra month of practice. I truly believe that this is an advantage that our team can not go without. That extra time is necessary for the development of our players.

 

[TexanMark]

Best post I have seen all week. You are correct, It is not the only issue by any means but it is hurting us a lot. Scheduling LSU just a mere 6 months ago tells me Doc Gross and Herm aren't listening. If we played an OOC like NC St or Duke we would be 5-4 at worst maybe better because we wouldn't have gotten as decimated by injuries more than likely. We would probably have a bowl streak back to 2009 if we scheduled OOC in a smart manner. I wish we could replace LSU with Kansas!

I have no problem scheduling one Big Boy Team OOC...the other 3 teams annually should give us a great shot at 3-1 OOC though.

 

[JoeSU]

And speaking of unfavorable schedules, how many teams do we play this year who are coming off a bye week?

 

[Chris02M]

And speaking of unfavorable schedules, how many teams do we play this year who are coming off a bye week?

3 I believe: ND,wake and nc state

 

[CIL]

It's a balancing act. In a small way, part of the problem has been the Metlife games. We know we're only playing big name OOC opponents at Metlife. But at the same time you have to schedule somewhat attractive OOC teams in the Dome.

Honest question -- do we? Is it that necessary and if so why? Money isn't nearly the issue it was 5 years ago. We can afford to have 6k less in the seats for one game. I'm sure from a selfish standpoint we as fans like to see it, but what does it truly accomplish?

I can understand the big game every now and then. Those SHOULD happen. But we don't need 2 extras every year. Our home calendar doesn't have UCONN, Temple, USF, and Cinci on it any longer. Those are being replaced by the FSUs, Clemsons, BCs, etc.

As to the other part, I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by the MetLife thing? We needed the $ at the time and whored ourselves out for it. I don't think it makes that much of a difference if we play ND at Alabrandi Stadium on CBA's campus. I think we continue to set ourselves up for 6-6 season plus or minus a few due to our scheduling. There is absolutely no need for it at this time.

I'm not trying to combative here, I have great memories of UF, Miami, Oklahoma, Michigan, OSU etc in the Dome. But those schedules also had 1-AA surrogates RU and Temple on the calendar. Outside of Miami and later Va Tech, the BE wasn't exactly murderers row.

 

[rrlbees]

Honest question -- do we? Is it that necessary and if so why? Money isn't nearly the issue it was 5 years ago. We can afford to have 6k less in the seats for one game. I'm sure from a selfish standpoint we as fans like to see it, but what does it truly accomplish? I can understand the big game every now and then. Those SHOULD happen. But we don't need 2 extras every year. Our home calendar doesn't have UCONN, Temple, USF, and Cinci on it any longer. Those are being replaced by the FSUs, Clemsons, BCs, etc. As to the other part, I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by the MetLife thing? We needed the $ at the time and whored ourselves out for it. I don't think it makes that much of a difference if we play ND at Alabrandi Stadium on CBA's campus. I think we continue to set ourselves up for 6-6 season plus or minus a few due to our scheduling. There is absolutely no need for it at this time. I'm not trying to combative here, I have great memories of UF, Miami, Oklahoma, Michigan, OSU etc in the Dome. But those schedules also had 1-AA surrogates RU and Temple on the calendar. Outside of Miami and later Va Tech, the BE wasn't exactly murderers row.

Yes. But somewhat attractive doesn't have to be an LSU every year. I've said many times any P5 team in the Dome, such as an Illinois, is better than playing big names in Metlife. And yes whether we had to or not do the deal, the Metlife games have damaged our competitiveness by making the schedule tougher than it needs to be. Instead of ND twice or USC and Pedst, it should have been home and homes with P5 teams, good, bad or indifferent. Also with the MetLife games you almost have play a MD or similar. You have to make the home OOC schedule just a bit attractive. If the most important thing is wins and losses for this program, MetLife damaged us.

 

[Millhouse]

I'm tired of this overscheduling stuff.

Everyone wants to play ND and Maryland sucks

If playing maryland is overscheduling, just stick the fork in us.

 

[AZOrange]

x two

There really is not many worse games to add to your schedule than lsu...

 

[AZOrange]

I'm tired of this overscheduling stuff.

Everyone wants to play ND and Maryland sucks

If playing maryland is overscheduling, just stick the fork in us.

I do agree with that. Maybe if we just replace md with nova...

 

[SUFan44]

We should have been 3-1 against the OOC schedule this year, except for the fact that our brilliant head coach punted three times in 50+ territory and couldn't score a TD in the redzone.

 

[CIL]

I'm tired of this overscheduling stuff.

Everyone wants to play ND and Maryland sucks

If playing maryland is overscheduling, just stick the fork in us.

Sure, everyone wants to play ND, but most others do their best to pencil in 3 other wins. We don't, and this year may have been the easiest out of conference in a while, but according to Sagarin the SOS is 24th right now. That "sucky" program Maryland will probably win 8 games this year (SOS 23rd).

This isn't the Graves to McNabb era Cuse. We need all the progress we can get right now - it's called program building. With all the bowl tie ins, etc there isn't the need to impress voters and committees as there once was. Most programs do it. It is very, very rare that P5 teams play 2 other P5 teams in their OOC games year in and year out. I would sway we might be one of 4-5 that do it.

Can you name the last elite OOC matchup Baylor has had? TCU in 2011.

 

[Bayside44]

We should have been 3-1 against the OOC schedule this year, except for the fact that our brilliant head coach punted three times in 50+ territory and couldn't score a TD in the redzone.

Play UMass. Seriously it's nuts with our conference schedule. If we start racking up the 8 and 4s and sneak in 9 and 3 then go big. Not now.

 

[007]

There really is not many worse games to add to your schedule than lsu...

That's because Bama has been ducking us for three years now. Wait till we get the chance to shut the gate on their a$$.

 

[Millhouse]

Sure, everyone wants to play ND, but most others do their best to pencil in 3 other wins. We don't, and this year may have been the easiest out of conference in a while, but according to Sagarin the SOS is 24th right now. That "sucky" program Maryland will probably win 8 games this year (SOS 23rd). This isn't the Graves to McNabb era Cuse. We need all the progress we can get right now - it's called program building. With all the bowl tie ins, etc there isn't the need to impress voters and committees as there once was. Most programs do it. It is very, very rare that P5 teams play 2 other P5 teams in their OOC games year in and year out. I would sway we might be one of 4-5 that do it. Can you name the last elite OOC matchup Baylor has had? TCU in 2011.

We play an elite team, an average team, a sh!tty team and a fcs. It's not that bad. Maybe we should schedule lighter but it's not a killer. Was anyone willing to play Baylor in prior years? Tcu probably was looking for games

 

[baggerbob]

If Duke can schedule the sisters of the poor out of conference, so should we. It does 2 very important things 1) gets you 3-1, or 4-0 going into the conference schedule, and 2) gets you an opportunity to iron out offense and defense before the conference games. A third benefit would be to get a large number of players game experience.

 

[TexanMark]

I like playing one OOC Big Boy every year

 

[skurey]

This thread is very baffling. People make fun of the SEC scheduling the Little Sisters of the Poor in OOC and now our "tough" schedule is being compared to the SEC West? Snap back to reality.

The ACC is a bad football conference. We should be able to make a bowl game most years but we've had a lot of injuries, had a lot of changes to the offensive coaching and we're still trying to find our QB for the future. Teams go through down years, it happens.

 

[OburgOrange]

I miss playing the military academies. Why can't we have Army? Also, why not Cornell? Two probable wins, NY and Fort Drum related. We would probably fill the Dome with military playing Army.!!

 

[Ottoble]

I also think that our program needs to schedule to make a bowl... Not for the money or the banner but more importantly the extra month of practice. I truly believe that this is an advantage that our team can not go without. That extra time is necessary for the development of our players.

I Agree wholeheartedly they need the extra practices for development.

This is the craziest rule so the good teams get more practice time bad ones less squashing all parity. Non bowl eligible teams should be able to practice ans schedule an end of season scrimmage against another non eligible team for the week between Xmas and new years with mandated half price admission with net profits going to charity and no TV. Builds the lower teams practice volume its a scrimmage so redshirts can get game play and rewards teams fanbases for sticking with them and college football ... grows the sport improves future cometition.