Pat Forde Article on SI

[Cuse181]

Yep, you're right Cuse181 - this story is definitely going away...

Are days a little shorter on planet samspann? And Pat forde is a douche, he already posted this whole “emperor” BS 7 years ago. And that article was more like a crying baby than a journalist.

 

[elimunelson]

"The customary chain of command has long been broken at Syracuse, with chancellor Kent Syverud and athletic director John Wildhack more likely to fetch Boeheim coffee than give him a directive."

Many here have wondered when the narrative would shift from "JB being JB" to a systemic enablement from SU. This may be the first piece to address it, it certainly won't be the last.

To me this is the damning part that I hate as a GRADUATE of Syracuse University.

That makes the university look completely feckless when a writer nukes the actual management of the entire operation starting with the Chancellor. We look SEC-ish when this starts to form.

And you wonder why our ranking, nationally speaking, is in the toilet. The school has incompetence if it allows for this narrative to prevail.

 

[Fly Rodder]

To me this is the damning part that I hate as a GRADUATE of Syracuse University.

That makes the university look completely feckless when a writer nukes the actual management of the entire operation starting with the Chancellor. We look SEC-ish when this starts to form.

And you wonder why our ranking, nationally speaking, is in the toilet. The school has incompetence if it allows for this narrative to prevail.

Yeah, there's something to be said when the national perspective is that you're running a mediocre basketball program, not a university, and the near-80 year old basketball coach is more important than anyone else. Not sure where that helps attract students.

 

[Brooky03]

To me this is the damning part that I hate as a GRADUATE of Syracuse University.

That makes the university look completely feckless when a writer nukes the actual management of the entire operation starting with the Chancellor. We look SEC-ish when this starts to form.

And you wonder why our ranking, nationally speaking, is in the toilet. The school has incompetence if it allows for this narrative to prevail.

It's conjecture. He doesn't know that that's the way it works (or doesn't work); he doesn't have inside info. He's guessing

 

[Cuse Action]

It will get worse and worse and they will write article after article. All the media people JB pissed off over the years are going to drive him into the ground now.

As well they should, he deserves nothing less.

 

[Brooky03]

The only people I've known in my life more concerned about public perception of them than Syracuse fans right now were the 13 year old girls I went to school with.

 

[samspann1]

Are days a little shorter on planet samspann? And Pat forde is a douche, he already posted this whole “emperor” BS 7 years ago. And that article was more like a crying baby than a journalist.

I think the person crying here is Boeheim. NIL is reality, and doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. Instead of whining about conference opponents USING THE RULES to better their squads, maybe worry about your own team?

The fact that the University had to issue a statement to walk back comments (which had already been walked back to an extent by JB) is pretty damning, IMO.

But hey, this is all a big nothingburger.

 

[TheCusian]

To me this is the damning part that I hate as a GRADUATE of Syracuse University.

That makes the university look completely feckless when a writer nukes the actual management of the entire operation starting with the Chancellor. We look SEC-ish when this starts to form.

And you wonder why our ranking, nationally speaking, is in the toilet. The school has incompetence if it allows for this narrative to prevail.

psst. Our success prior to this downturn was because he is an emperor mafia boss like Sabin, the SEC powerbrokers etc. No easy narratives here.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Forde is a joke though. I don't know anyone who takes him seriously. There are many people who don't like Boeheim in the media and this is their chance and he gave it to them.

Forde is a Louisville homer.

He's long had it out for JB and Syracuse so there's no doubt he's relishing this opportunity.

 

[Cuse181]

I think the person crying here is Boeheim. NIL is reality, and doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. Instead of whining about conference opponents USING THE RULES to better their squads, maybe worry about your own team?

The fact that the University had to issue a statement to walk back comments (which had already been walked back to an extent by JB) is pretty damning, IMO.

But hey, this is all a big nothingburger.

So you didn’t read this article, nor the article from 7 years ago.

Got it.

 

[orangecuse]

Right or wrong, you reap what you sow.

Can you write that here now? I used those same exact words last year in one of the state of the union/JB type threads relative to our record, improbability of making the Dance, poor/highly questionable roster management, etc. and it got deleted.

 

[djcon57]

Forde has a long beef with JAB, if you read that and don't take it into account you're playing the fool no matter how true *some* of it is.

(And JAB has been the emporer of the thing for like 1/2 his tenure. He's a mafia boss and Forde is a turd. There are no winners here)

I mean, numbers are numbers, no?

the opinion parts, sure.

 

[Brooky03]

Can you write that here now? I used those same exact words last year in one of the state of the union/JB type threads relative to our record, improbability of making the Dance, poor/highly questionable roster management, etc. and it got deleted.

You know how Pitino's teams get away with fouling because they start the game fouling right away and the refs just decide they don't want to blow the whistle all game long, so they let the contact go?

This forum is basically that now.

 

[phil77]

Writing this off the article because Forde has it out for JB is missing the point. These articles aren't just coming from Forde. Lots of Facts and Stats in that article that you are ignoring because it is by Forde a known JB hater. Is there some extra adjectives added to drive home the point that aren't needed? Sure but the points made in the article are very valid.

 

[orangecuse]

You know how Pitino's teams get away with fouling because they start the game fouling right away and the refs just decide they don't want to blow the whistle all game long, so they let the contact go?

This forum is basically that now.

You're still a greenhorn here to make such an assessment. At least wait until the standard one year warranty period for you expires.

 

[Bayside44]

To me this is the damning part that I hate as a GRADUATE of Syracuse University.

That makes the university look completely feckless when a writer nukes the actual management of the entire operation starting with the Chancellor. We look SEC-ish when this starts to form.

And you wonder why our ranking, nationally speaking, is in the toilet. The school has incompetence if it allows for this narrative to prevail.

The article itself by Forde was poorly written on a junkie looking site, it has nothing to do with anything by itself.

But it's part of the pile on so anyone who actually does still read and share SI gets to take part.

The ranking thing is weird - I live surrounded by ACC grads, the last time school rank has come up has been never.

 

[pearl31]

This coach of ours was always defensive and thin-skinned - and until recently very successful.
Now he is defensive, thin-skinned, cantankerous, gaslighting, delusional - a national embarrassment and not successful whatsoever.
Please for the love of god JB just retire.

 

[Cusefan0307]

This coach of ours was always defensive and thin-skinned - and until recently very successful.
Now he is defensive, thin-skinned, cantankerous, gaslighting, delusional - a national embarrassment and not successful whatsoever.
Please for the love of god JB just retire.

Long time, no see. Glad to see you’re alive.

 

[Brooky03]

You're still a greenhorn here to make such an assessment. At least wait until the standard one year warranty period for you expires.

I'm on my second life here.

 

[Orangezoo]

I mean, numbers are numbers, no?

the opinion parts, sure.

I think quite a few folks are still in denial mode with all this. Honestly I almost envy them... except if things take too much longer the next phase will set in.

 

[longtimefan]

I think the person crying here is Boeheim. NIL is reality, and doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. Instead of whining about conference opponents USING THE RULES to better their squads, maybe worry about your own team?

The fact that the University had to issue a statement to walk back comments (which had already been walked back to an extent by JB) is pretty damning, IMO.

But hey, this is all a big nothingburger.

I would counter that are many programs ABUSING THE RULES, which is of little import, because right now there are no rules.

 

[kingtidge]

Forde has a long beef with JAB, if you read that and don't take it into account you're playing the fool no matter how true *some* of it is.

(And JAB has been the emporer of the thing for like 1/2 his tenure. He's a mafia boss and Forde is a turd. There are no winners here)

True... but JB needs to get a teddy bear national interview now where he smiles, talks softly and explains why he misspoke and was misunderstood...

Who will do it for him? He's burned so many bridges.

Bilas would have been the likely go-to until the public spat they had about Jalen Johnson 2 years ago which ended with Boehem claiming not only was he right, but he was smarter than Bilas.

Maybe Tirico literally takes one for the team and gives him a platform for this??

 

[grepal]

To me this is the damning part that I hate as a GRADUATE of Syracuse University.

That makes the university look completely feckless when a writer nukes the actual management of the entire operation starting with the Chancellor. We look SEC-ish when this starts to form.

And you wonder why our ranking, nationally speaking, is in the toilet. The school has incompetence if it allows for this narrative to prevail.

Pat is a hack. Pay no mind to people like that. Not worth your time.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

True... but JB needs to get a teddy bear national interview now where he smiles, talks softly and explains why he misspoke and was misunderstood...

Who will do it for him? He's burned so many bridges.

Bilas would have been the likely go-to until the public spat they had about Jalen Johnson 2 years ago which ended with Boehem claiming not only was he right, but he was smarter than Bilas.

Maybe Tirico literally takes one for the team and gives him a platform for this??

I don't think anything more needs to be done, he walked it back, apologized. It's not a great look, just wait for it to go away and say nothing more

 

[donniesyracuse]

True... but JB needs to get a teddy bear national interview now where he smiles, talks softly and explains why he misspoke and was misunderstood...

But there is no explanation because he said exactly what he wanted to say and was not misunderstood.