Per 40 stats are crazy

[Millhouse]

Starling and Anthony are taking 31 shots per 40 this year. 29 per 40 in conference

I have checked out but seriously does anyone there have a computer

Anthony taking 54 shots shooting 35% in conference is crazy

These guys are 13/49 from three in conference

We have shooters

 

[jdubs30]

Kiyan has the 2nd highest usage on the team and his eFG% is 39.8% in conference play which is absolutely putrid. Kingz is at 65.2% eFG with below average usage.

George has been bad too (41%). We just have a lot of inefficient offensive players. With the exception of Donnie, our 3 most inefficient players have our 3 highest usage rates. Meanwhile our 3 most efficient scorers we never use (Kingz, Betsey, Kyle)

 

[CapitalO]

Kiyan has the 2nd highest usage on the team and his eFG% is 39.8% in conference play which is absolutely putrid. Kingz is at 65.2% eFG with below average usage.

George has been bad too (41%). We just have a lot of inefficient offensive players. With the exception of Donnie, our 3 most inefficient players have our 3 highest usage rates. Meanwhile our 3 most efficient scorers we never use (Kingz, Betsey, Kyle)

Hopefully our next coach will make a HUGE difference in all aspects of the game.

 

[richard levy]

Starling and Anthony are taking 31 shots per 40 this year. 29 per 40 in conference

I have checked out but seriously does anyone there have a computer

Anthony taking 54 shots shooting 35% in conference is crazy

These guys are 13/49 from three in conference

We have shooters

we have shooters, but we don't have makers

 

[Cusefan0307]

Shot distribution is awful. Kiyan and JJ wouldn’t even play on most teams. Here they have the biggest green light you could have. Kingz is our second best offensive player and is used like a specialist.

 

[tbonezone]

i think in terms of narrative the play of the game was donnie madly waiving his hands wide open underneath and kiyan dribble driving to his left ignoring him and then driving and missing and taking fts.

 

[MikeSU02]

Shot distribution is awful. Kiyan and JJ wouldn’t even play on most teams. Here they have the biggest green light you could have. Kingz is our second best offensive player and is used like a specialist.

Bingo.

 

[phil77]

i think in terms of narrative the play of the game was donnie madly waiving his hands wide open underneath and kiyan dribble driving to his left ignoring him and then driving and missing and taking fts.

Another one I like was in the first half, we ran zero action to get Donnie the ball in the post, he was getting it way out at the three-point line or at the top of the key. Kiyan checked in, and the first play after he checked in was an action to get Kiyan a post ISO. Like what are we even doing?

 

[Scooch]

It’s insanity and THE sign that we’re terribly coached.

In our 10 ACC games Freeman has 129 FGA and Starling has 118. Starling has taken 50% more shots in conference play than Kingz (79 FGA).

Meanwhile Anthony has taken 54 shots but that’s the third highest attempts-per-minute on the team (0.34). More than Kingz (0.26) and Betsey (0.22).

Hell, Sadiq White takes more shots per minute than Kingz! (0.27 vs 0.26).

I’d argue that the #1 job of a coach is to make sure his best shooters are taking the most shots. Red is an abject friggin’ failure at that.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Starling and Anthony are taking 31 shots per 40 this year. 29 per 40 in conference

I have checked out but seriously does anyone there have a computer

Anthony taking 54 shots shooting 35% in conference is crazy

These guys are 13/49 from three in conference

We have shooters

I went on a rant about this last week. Now do how they shoot and how the team was shooting in general in the 2nd half of our 4 game losing streak. It was preposterous.

Terrible from 2, terrible from 3, terrible from the FT line.

 

[Scooch]

Also, Freeman, Betsey and Kingz are 54 for 123 from three in ACC play. An excellent 44%.

Starling, Anthony and George are 24 for 84. A pathetic 29%

Yet the latter three have taken 41% of our threes. That means 2 out of every 5 times we hoist a three pointer it’s being take by someone who sucks at shooting three pointers. Those guys should be drive and kick, and ONLY drive and kick.

Yet all of them have the perpetual green light from Red.

 

[Cstate]

i think in terms of narrative the play of the game was donnie madly waiving his hands wide open underneath and kiyan dribble driving to his left ignoring him and then driving and missing and taking fts.

Go watch the replay (NOT of the whole game! Haha) of that play and 2 teammates went to pick Kiyan up almost immediately. Donnie then came strutting in late to join the “mini” huddle and you should see his face! He’s shall we say less than thrilled…..

 

[Fly Rodder]

We just have a lot of inefficient offensive players.

This is from CBBanalytics.com. I can't get too much more granular with the free package or compare to ACC teams, etc.
These are the percentages of FGAs from 3 and at the rim. The second column is their percentile rank in D1 (IIRC). So 86% of Kingz's FGAs are at the rim or from 3 and that puts him in the 85th percentile of NCAA D1 players, meaning he takes more of his shots at the rim or from three than 85% of D1 players. The third column is their eFG% at those shots at the rim and from three combined. Most are really good excepting Kiyan and Nait. A team wants Kyle and Kingz taking those shots. Kiyan and Nait should be taking way fewer shots overall. And you can see that Kingz has an eFG% of 60% on those shots, good for the top 25% in the country. That's great!

People can see the rest: Overall, JJ, Kiyan, Donnie, Nait and Sadiq love them some mid range Js - the least efficient shot in basketball. They take more shots from there than 80-90% of the D1 players. Freeman takes too many midrange jumpers, but he's relatively good at them (39%), but still less good than making shots at the rim (81% and 93rd percentile) or paint (46.6% and 60th percentile).

 

[Cuse99&01]

Watching all these games it is easy to see the issues this team has on offense (many of them outlined in the posts above). Even if someone made the argument that a lot of the complaints are simply a matter of opinion, the analytical data some posters have provided would refute that argument.

Wasn't one of the assistant coaches or some other personnel brought in primarily because of their experience/expertise with analytics? If so, what in the world is that person doing? Shouldn't he be relaying those numbers to the other staff? Then again maybe he is and Red just doesn't know what to do with them or doesn't know how to use them for the teams benefit.

 

[690West]

I’m still in awe that Kiyan spends the whole game just jogging. I’ve never seen him sprint and we’re 20 games in. Maybe Chris Bunch is his idol. I have no idea at this point.

 

[Millhouse]

Watching all these games it is easy to see the issues this team has on offense (many of them outlined in the posts above). Even if someone made the argument that a lot of the complaints are simply a matter of opinion, the analytical data some posters have provided would refute that argument.

Wasn't one of the assistant coaches or some other personnel brought in primarily because of their experience/expertise with analytics? If so, what in the world is that person doing? Shouldn't he be relaying those numbers to the other staff? Then again maybe he is and Red just doesn't know what to do with them or doesn't know how to use them for the teams benefit.

I just don't trust anyone who says analytics

In the old days it was just called looking at normal stats and having a brain in your head

They probably have people working on idiotic models that are way worse than what you can just find in two seconds at basketball reference

Maybe if they didn't take the worst shots ever, I'd believe they had something useful in house

 

[Madbiker]

Kiyan has the 2nd highest usage on the team and his eFG% is 39.8% in conference play which is absolutely putrid. Kingz is at 65.2% eFG with below average usage.

George has been bad too (41%). We just have a lot of inefficient offensive players. With the exception of Donnie, our 3 most inefficient players have our 3 highest usage rates. Meanwhile our 3 most efficient scorers we never use (Kingz, Betsey, Kyle)

Great point! This is a coaching problem pure and simple. The coach should be implementing a system that maximizes his most efficient players and eliminates or minimizes the most inefficient players. Autry acts like he has a 10 year contract and just plays his favorites not the best. It's going to get him fired in a make or break season.

 

[bevosu]

I noticed earlier in the season that Kingz was one of the more active players on the team. He was good at dropping off his man on D and helping a teammate. He rarely got caught out of position on D.

On offense, yes, he would stand in the corner and wait for a pass when he was open. JJ and George would drive, Kingz man would move towards the inside, and JJ and George would ignore the fact that Kingz was wide open.

Kingz wasn't hitting his 3s early in the season, but we never gave him a chance to work his way out of his slump. Looked like we were intentionally ignoring him on O. He hustles on D and O. Weird and stupid.

 

[littlereg]

Watching all these games it is easy to see the issues this team has on offense (many of them outlined in the posts above). Even if someone made the argument that a lot of the complaints are simply a matter of opinion, the analytical data some posters have provided would refute that argument.

Wasn't one of the assistant coaches or some other personnel brought in primarily because of their experience/expertise with analytics? If so, what in the world is that person doing? Shouldn't he be relaying those numbers to the other staff? Then again maybe he is and Red just doesn't know what to do with them or doesn't know how to use them for the teams benefit.

Yeah actually this is a great point. The last two years we’ve hired one or two guys on the staff that were directed as “data analyst”. The question is are they being allowed to do their job fully, are their inputs being taken with any grain of salt, or are they simply not doing a good job?

The entire coaching staff head to toe has been an issue for me. It’s mostly all alums,locals, etc. I fear the nepotism has completely infected this program at every single level. I’ve mentioned this 20393939 times, I’m a Clemson football fan as I’ve had multiple family members play there(Ben Boulware most notable) One of Clemson footballs biggest causes in their downfall right now outside of portal use (this issue predates the portal) is the nepotism surrounding the coaching staff. Instead of hiring the best, most qualified coaches for the job they continually hire former players who have minimal or no coaching experience. a majority of the coaches are either that, alums or family members that have connection to someone at Clemson in the past, or with Dabo prior.

 

[JarHeadJim]

we have shooters, but we don't have makers

 

[Fly Rodder]

The question is are they being allowed to do their job fully, are their inputs being taken with any grain of salt, or are they simply not doing a good job?

IIRC, Kline said in an interview that his job was to find players that fit the HC's vision, not necessarily who he (Kline) wants. He and his team identify potential players and bring them to Autry and he chooses which ones to go after. That said, a lot of other teams will want those same players, so Syracuse is not always getting their first choice.

That said, I don't think that Autry knows how to run a modern offense built on analytics and that definitely hampers the ability for them to get the most out of the players that they've selected. I know we like to bang on the staff for not running plays, me included, but they really do. Autry's supposed goal is have a flexible offense that allows the players to make reads and make basketball decisions. Which, yeah, sure, that's great. The problem(s) I see are that some of the plays don't seem to make the best use of the player they isolating for, they don't execute well (lots of sloppy picks and missing open guys like last night), or know what to do after the first read. All of which devolves into sloppy ISO ball because a decent D will be able to stop the obvious play and then everyone standing there confused and, when in doubt, take a shot.