Pitt - Virginia Tech

[Chip]

Yeah, I was a bit on the fence about that with Maryland in our division last year. Now with Ville in their place and Tech, Miami and NC looking pretty bad, I agree. They need to move Clemson or FSU to the Coastal and put Pitt in the Atlantic, that would balance things off a lot better. A lot of teams will be up and down but FSU and Clemson will always be football factories and they need to be split up.

These things can be cyclical though. ACC needs to decide if they think long term FSU and Clemson are going to consistently be 1-2, or if they think Miami, VT will eventually get back to where they were. In recent history (call it 15 years), that would be 4 teams that could most consistently be in the Top 20. I think all of the other teams fall in that might occasionally be in the Top 25 category, so no reason to do anything about that from a competitive standpoint. Do VT and Miami drop in that group? If so, then it's in the league's best interest to split FSU and Clemson.

 

[Millhouse]

These things can be cyclical though. ACC needs to decide if they think long term FSU and Clemson are going to consistently be 1-2, or if they think Miami, VT will eventually get back to where they were. In recent history (call it 15 years), that would be 4 teams that could most consistently be in the Top 20. I think all of the other teams fall in that might occasionally be in the Top 25 category, so no reason to do anything about that from a competitive standpoint. Do VT and Miami drop in that group? If so, then it's in the league's best interest to split FSU and Clemson.

i think VT can make it back. so many of us of a certain age are just so used to Miami being awesome but i wonder if it was just a really long lucky cheating fluke

part of me hopes that you can succeed without fans but there's without fans and then there's without fans

their last 10 win season was only 2 years later than our's. we've won 2 bowls since their last bowl win.

4 national titles starting right when I started paying attention to anything in 1983, i might think they've better than they are over the very long haul

 

[kirbivore]

I couldn't root for VT if they were playing the Taliban.

Having said that, I kind of want Pitt's season to continue to fall apart, so I'll feel better about beating them.

Either way, I win.

I feel the same way except the annual UVA/VT game. That one day I want VT to beat the hell out of UVA to remind the hoos that they let the Hokies in the conference.

 

[ClkWrkOrange]

I feel the same way except the annual UVA/VT game. That one day I want VT to beat the hell out of UVA to remind the hoos that they let the Hokies in the conference.

I think the last thing UVA wanted was VT in the ACC.Their state pols kinda forced them on them,no?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

i think VT can make it back. so many of us of a certain age are just so used to Miami being awesome but i wonder if it was just a really long lucky cheating fluke

part of me hopes that you can succeed without fans but there's without fans and then there's without fans

their last 10 win season was only 2 years later than our's. we've won 2 bowls since their last bowl win.

4 national titles starting right when I started paying attention to anything in 1983, i might think they've better than they are over the very long haul

Miami's biggest problem is their coaches haven't been that good. Golden can recruit but couldn't get a productive offense out there if his life depended on it.

 

[SmilinBob]

I think the last thing UVA wanted was VT in the ACC.Their state pols kinda forced them on them,no?

I thought so as well and the carpet begger (done on purpose) VT will soon be trying to get into the SEC asap as well if they were to ever expand.