This is why: (not a good win in there)- when they beat real teams they'll move up. Look at that schedule. Cupcakes!
Savannah State 7:00 PM ET W 88 - 55
Fresno State 7:00 PM ET ESPN-FC/ESPN3 W 75 - 54
Howard 5:00 PM ET W 84 - 52
Lehigh 7:30 PM ET ESPN-U W 77 - 58
Texas Tech* 7:30 PM ET ESPN2/ESPN3 W 76 - 53
Stanford* 9:30 PM ET ESPN-U W 88 - 67
Duquesne* 1:00 PM ET CBSS W 84 - 67
Tue. Dec. 3 vs. Penn State 7:30 PM ET ESPN-U W 78 - 69
Loyola Marymount 7:00 PM ET ESPN3 W 85 - 68 .
Youngstown State 12:00 PM ET ESPN-FC/ESPN3 W 91 - 73
Cincinnati* 7:00 PM ET ESPN/ESPN3 L 43 - 44
Cal Poly 4:00 PM ET ESPN3 W 73 - 56
Albany 1:00 PM ET ESPN3 W 58 - 46
North Carolina State 12:00 PM ET ESPN-FC/ESPN3 W 74 - 62
Maryland 7:00 PM ET ESPN-U/ESPN3 W 79 - 59
Pitt's OOC's schedules are always terrible, and they don't seem to get much media attention for it. It seems like we get hammered for our OOC schedules even when it's a pretty tough schedule! And when we actually do play a weak OOC schedule, we never hear the end of it all year.
Illinois beat Missouri and Indiana.Illinois, who was 13-2 entering the week, was an example of the conference bias that enters the AP Poll.
Basically
a) Illinois is 13-2
b) Illinois is in the Big Ten
and c) the Big Ten is possibly the best conference
So therefore Illinois is a top 25 team. (it didn't matter that they have not played in the BiG yet or have one decent win and a few bad losses)
If Pitt or Cincy had been in the BiG they would have been top 25 teams as well. Its not that there was an agenda, or a long time bias for the BiG per se... its just a natural bias that occurs for those that are part of the "top" conference.
Its just another example of the biases that exist in the AP Top 25.
They are 23 in RPI with that record because their SOS is 114. As Sherm said, their schedule has been less than stellar.
They are 15-1 and not in the top 25! How is this possible??
Illinois beat Missouri and Indiana.
UNC received 35 more votes than Pitt in the last AP rankings. That's absurd.
Oregon hasn't really beaten anybody either (Illinois, Mississippi?, and a few mediocre mid majors like BYU and Georgetown)
Gonzaga has beaten nobody. UMass, too.
Claim bias after Pitt gets a quality win. Until then, you're wasting your breathe.Indiana? And that was a home game as well
If we are going to use that as a threshold then Pitt has three quality wins - Stanford, Maryland, and possibly even at NC St. All similar to Indiana. None are quality wins.
Yes Illinois beat Missouri on a neutral court. They also lost at Georgia Tech which is about as terrible a loss that you will see in the top 25 right now.
Claim bias after Pitt gets a quality win. Until then, you're wasting your breathe.