Polls for Sept 21: AP (NR) / Coaches 37

[orangenauburn]

Coaches poll. Receive four votes. 37th.

Duke is an opportunity to creep closer.

 

[orangenauburn]

Teaser by AP before release


Who else might move? Wins by Syracuse over Clemson and TCU over the once-ranked SMU leave both victors knocking on the door of the rankings.


Edit

And then we proceed to receive zero media votes.

Why would the AP even post that if we had zero votes?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[DomeHolmes]

Cuse loses a somewhat competitive game to Tennessee and beats Clemson handily in Death Valley and gets no votes.

Illinois loses by 53! to Indiana! And has nothing else on the resume, and is still ranked. W T ?

If we played in order with the same results, Clemson, Yukon, Colgate, Tennessee, we would be ranked about 15 and Tennessee would be about 10.

 

[JKinUtah]

The only rankings that matter is the CFP rankings.

 

[Rufus_13th]

Only the CFP matters. First one is Tuesday after UNC Game.

If they can win their home games, maybe get SMU. Being 7-2 with losses to Tennessee and Georgia Tech will absolutely get us ranked. Hell, 6-3 may get them. They will boost us for Tennessee.

 

[OttosShoes]

with losses to Tennessee and Georgia Tech

Tech squeaked by Clemson at home. We beat them solidly away. I know they’re good but in my mind that’s our game to lose.

 

[upperdeck]

they really should make voters show their work.

 

[bnoro]

they really should make voters show their work.

They can't, these folks look at box scores

 

[baggerbob]

Only the CFP matters. First one is Tuesday after UNC Game.

If they can win their home games, maybe get SMU. Being 7-2 with losses to Tennessee and Georgia Tech will absolutely get us ranked. Hell, 6-3 may get them. They will boost us for Tennessee.

Georgia Tech just barely won at home against Clemson. By the time we get to them they might not have a QB, and both our lines are better then theirs. Do you really think they would have been competitive if they had played at Clemson? I don't think they would have been close.

 

[orangefog]

They can't, these folks look at box scores

If that.

 

[ImperialOrange]

It's hilarious to me watching the narratives change. LSU beats Clemson by 7 = "what a great win for LSU against a top 5 team!!!", GaTech beat Clemson at home by 3 = "Wow great win for Tech, they might be for real!", Cuse dominates Clemson at Clemson = "Wow, Clemson are terrible and Dabo is on the hot seat".

Why can't pundits give Syracuse any respect for an impressive win as they did the others?

 

[bnoro]

It's hilarious to me watching the narratives change. LSU beats Clemson by 7 = "what a great win for LSU against a top 5 team!!!", GaTech beat Clemson at home by 3 = "Wow great win for Tech, they might be for real!", Cuse dominates Clemson at Clemson = "Wow, Clemson are terrible and Dabo is on the hot seat".

Why can't pundits give Syracuse any respect for an impressive win as they did the others?

Partially because we learned that Clemson is actually not a good team.

I think if you flipped the order of the teams around, it would be a similar narrative.

Unfortunately for us, we beat them after the shine came off.

 

[Rufus_13th]

Georgia Tech just barely won at home against Clemson. By the time we get to them they might not have a QB, and both our lines are better then theirs. Do you really think they would have been competitive if they had played at Clemson? I don't think they would have been close.

Tech squeaked by Clemson at home. We beat them solidly away. I know they’re good but in my mind that’s our game to lose.

All fair points. Just going by current FPI and I think we got a better shot at SMU than GT if we were to split. We'd all take 7-2 or 6-3 right now come 1st week in November.

ACC is wide open. We play 2 teams "ahead" of us in projected ACC CG odds. We are a Top 5 in conference right now. Miami, FSU, GT, Ville, Cuse. Maybe SMU at 6? NC St? Clemson, UVA Duke round out top 10? No idea about 6-10.

 

[upperdeck]

It's hilarious to me watching the narratives change. LSU beats Clemson by 7 = "what a great win for LSU against a top 5 team!!!", GaTech beat Clemson at home by 3 = "Wow great win for Tech, they might be for real!", Cuse dominates Clemson at Clemson = "Wow, Clemson are terrible and Dabo is on the hot seat".

Why can't pundits give Syracuse any respect for an impressive win as they did the others?

LSU has a Resume

Squeaks by Clemson
Beats 3 loss florida
two cupcakes

That makes them #4

 

[Easy Goer]

Me and my son have been talking

It's hilarious to me watching the narratives change. LSU beats Clemson by 7 = "what a great win for LSU against a top 5 team!!!", GaTech beat Clemson at home by 3 = "Wow great win for Tech, they might be for real!", Cuse dominates Clemson at Clemson = "Wow, Clemson are terrible and Dabo is on the hot seat".

Why can't pundits give Syracuse any respect for an impressive win as they did the others?

Me and my son have been talking about this. Georgia Tech is ranked because they beat Clemson. Syracuse wins and its Clemson stinks.

So does this detract from LSU and Georgia Tech. Not for the rankings. They got the benefit and they won’t adjust now that we know Clemson might not be that good.

 

[PAcuse]

LSU has a Resume

Squeaks by Clemson
Beats 3 loss florida
two cupcakes

That makes them #4

Now look at #3 Pedstates amazing resume...

 

[PAcuse]

Me and my son have been talking

Me and my son have been talking about this. Georgia Tech is ranked because they beat Clemson. Syracuse wins and its Clemson stinks.

So does this detract from LSU and Georgia Tech. Not for the rankings. They got the benefit and they won’t adjust now that we know Clemson might not be that good.

It will for the CFP polls but not for the media or coaches polls.

 

[upperdeck]

Lets Say SU started at #10 , lost to Tenn fall to like 18, win win win. Probably around 15th.

 

[MGDCuse]

Now look at #3 Pedstates amazing resume...

Indiana looked great last night. I know it's early, but they looked better than any big 10 team I've seen so far this year. Including PSU.

 

[ImperialOrange]

LSU has a Resume

Squeaks by Clemson
Beats 3 loss florida
two cupcakes

That makes them #4

Beats 3 loss Florida... only by 10... at home. It's wild

 

[ImperialOrange]

Partially because we learned that Clemson is actually not a good team.

I think if you flipped the order of the teams around, it would be a similar narrative.

Unfortunately for us, we beat them after the shine came off.

I wish you were correct... but I don't think you are. We aren't SEC or Big Ten or in the South or Notre Dame... thus we don't get slobbed on by the media.

 

[721Comstock]

Partially because we learned that Clemson is actually not a good team.

I think if you flipped the order of the teams around, it would be a similar narrative.

Unfortunately for us, we beat them after the shine came off.

144% this.

I had (jokingly) posted that Clempsum not being ranked would devalue our W.

Turns out I was correct.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Sagarin Rankings
We are up to 34th! Which is 6th in the ACC, 2nd in the Northeast (don't think we can get to #1 so 2nd is not bad), and #1 in NY State. Our SOS thus far is 28th. We are down to playing four Top 25 teams, seven Top 41, and nine Top 60.

The California schools are dragging the ACC down. The ACC has five teams ahead of the B12 #2.

The SEC has 5 of the Top 10, 12 of the Top 21, 14 of the Top 27, and all 16 teams in the Top 50.

Meanwhile the B1G has 7 teams outside the Top 50, and 3 outside of the Top 80.

The PAC has the lowest ranked conference leader.

I would like to play Northeastern G6s OOC. Delaware, Buffalo, Temple, UMass are all outside of the Top 100. Navy, Army, UConn are all outside the Top 70.


1. Ohio State (new #1)
2. Oregon (2nd B1G)
3. Penn State (highest Northeastern)
4. Bama (highest SEC, highest with an L, still think this is odd)
5. Miami (highest ACC, highest we play, highest non B1G/SEC, highest private school)
6. UGA (2nd SEC)
8. Notre Dame (2nd highest with an L, highest with 2 Ls, 2nd highest non B1G/SEC, 2nd highest on our schedule, 2nd highest private school, this is even weirder than Bama)
13. Tennessee
22. Texas Tech (highest B12)
23. FSU (2nd ACC)
24. Clemson (3rd ACC)
25. Louisville (4th ACC)
29. GA Tech (5th ACC)
30. ASU (2nd B12)
34. Cuse (6th ACC, 2nd Northeast, highest NY)
38. UVA (7th ACC)
40. SMU (8th ACC)
41. Pitt (9th ACC)
44. Memphis (highest G6, highest AAC)
45. North Dakota State (highest FCS)
49. Miss State (worst SEC)
50. Boise State (2nd G6, highest MWC)
51. NC State (10th ACC)
56. Rutgers
57. BC (11th ACC)
58. Duke (12th ACC, 2nd worst P4 we play)
59. Maryland (2nd worst Northeastern P4)
60. Texas State (highest Sun Belt)
68. Toledo (highest MAC)
69. VA Tech (13th ACC)
71. Navy (highest service academy)
74. West Virginia (worst Northeastern P4)
75. UNC (14th ACC, worst P4 we play, 2nd worst FBS)
76. Cal (15th ACC)
81. Army (2nd NY)
84. Stanford (16th ACC)
88. UConn (worst FBS we play, 2nd worst we play)
89. UCLA (worst B1G)
91. LA Tech (highest CUSA)
93. Wake (worst ACC, 2nd worst P4)
100. Marshall
101. Oregon State (highest PAC)
107. Delaware
110. Buffalo (worst NY)
112. Air Force
117. Okie State (worst P4, worst B12)
121. Temple (2nd worst Northeastern)
208. Colgate (worst we play)
210. UMass (worst Northeastern, 2nd worst FBS)
237. Kent State (worst FBS team)
264. Stetson (2nd worst team)
265. Miss Valley State (new worst team)

 

[Archbold44]

Cuse loses a somewhat competitive game to Tennessee and beats Clemson handily in Death Valley and gets no votes.

Illinois loses by 53! to Indiana! And has nothing else on the resume, and is still ranked. W T ?

If we played in order with the same results, Clemson, Yukon, Colgate, Tennessee, we would be ranked about 15 and Tennessee would be about 10.

Illinois beat Duke. If we cannot beat Duke, we do not deserve to be ranked. TCU and Baylor beat SMU. If we cannot beat SMU, we do not deserve to be ranked. Just keep winning and the rankings will take care of themselves...