Postgame Thoughts… Indiana

[Willy75]

JB’s been criticized for years for not fouling in that situation; e.g. the end of regulation in the Duke game when SU was undefeated.

 

[blust2i3d4]

ACC is so weak this year, I think we can finish in top 5 and get a NCAA bid. So far I think only Duke and Louisville are better than us. We need to beat Florida State and Virginia, then we can secure a bid as long as we are ahead of Virginia and Florida State.

 

[OrangeDW]

FSU is a horrible matchup, but we need to beat Nova, GTown, and everyone else this month and head into January at 9-4 at the worst.

 

[rrlbees]

I don’t think I’ve seen an SU team go so hard for loose balls in a long time.

 

[Trueblue25]

Torrence needs a longer leash. Was the only thing I’ll complain about.

 

[Ggaenzle]

Benny’s been very disappointing

 

[OrangeDW]

FSU is a horrible matchup, but we need to beat Nova, GTown, and everyone else this month and head into January at 9-4 at the worst.

STOP DISLIKING MY POSTS CousCuse, BEFORE I GO ALL UMASS ON YOU!! CARMELO TRAVIESO!!! EDGAR PADILLA!!! DANA DINGLE!! DANTE BRIGHT!!!

 

[690West]

Frank MVP for 4-4 from line and fighting hard for boards against the Hoosier big

Yup. Literally the most important stat line of the game. Our two big men have INCREDIBLE touch from the line.

 

[AlaskaSU]

Benny is not going pro next year.

 

[CousCuse]

STOP DISLIKING MY POSTS CousCuse, BEFORE I GO ALL UMASS ON YOU!! CARMELO TRAVIESO!!! EDGAR PADILLA!!! DANA DINGLE!! DANTE BRIGHT!!!

No Julius Erving? The Doctah J.

 

[realorange]

Benny’s been very disappointing

Benny still needs to find himself in a game that is still too fast for him. He is too good an athlete to not figure it out. Plus he sits next to JB on the bench and gets coached the whole game.

 

[IthacaMatt]

My was fired up for the second OT. Not quite this...

But close enough.

Now where is that NYC subway rat when you need him???

 

[OrangeDW]

No Julius Erving? The Doctah J.

Too obvious!! As is Marcus Camby and Lou Roe! Gotta name the obscure role players from their glory days.

Except Derrick Kellogg. Hated that guy.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Benny is not going pro next year.

I think most people thought that he would be here for 2 years. If we are as good at developing talent as advertised, we should get this kid to the league.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I don't think JB wants to risk fouls faster on the guys he needs at center. Frank still has a lot to learn about staying out of foul trouble. Jesse is still making some bad fouls himself.

It would be so significant if they could each cut down just 1 or 2 "bad fouls" per game (reaching, especially).

If they can do that, then they can stay on the floor longer every game.

 

[690West]

Who were PBP and color tonight on the deuce?

 

[MadNY3]

I don’t think I’ve seen an SU team go so hard for loose balls in a long time.

I don’t want to be negative, but this is one of the worst get-back-on-D-after-a-miss teams I can recall in recent memory.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Looking at the box score, I see some interesting things. Real examples of "feast or famine".

• We were out-rebounded 47-30. That's Minus 17 possessions.
• On the other hand, we got a lot of those possessions back with other aspects of our defense - we had 18 steals to their 6, plus 4 blocks to 0. That's 22 to 6 - Plus 16 possessions, offsetting their huge advantage on the boards.
• They passed the ball better than us - 26 assists to 16. They outshot us by a little, but not a lot.
• They might have played a couple guys more than us, but neither team got much from its bench.
• Pretty equal in fouls; pretty equal in free throws.

All of those add up to your classic nail-biter - even though we might have absolutely sucked at some things, we somehow made up for it with other types of plays - and in nail biters, JB usually wins.

This one is his, as much as Frank's or Jimmy's. Very happy for a significant win.

One more thought - if we can get Frank and and Jesse's rebounding up just 1 or 2 a game for each of them, that will do wonders for our interior defense.

Speaking of which, for all the talk of them being soft, Jimmy and Cole are both averaging over 6 rebounds a game. They are not that far from where we need them to be.

The front line defense needs more Symir, but this could go from being one of the worst defenses in America to just about average.

The Andrew White / John Gillon team was kind of like that. So was one of the early Buddy era teams; terrible defensively early, and then got reasonably good by January, better than expected, based on their performances earlier in the season.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I don’t want to be negative, but this is one of the worst get-back-on-D-after-a-miss teams I can recall in recent memory.

That, fortunately, can be drilled into them. They need to still work on the base defense first.

 

[Todoubled23]

I thought the 3 he hit from the corner when we were crumbling was the most important basket of the game. We might get run out if that doesn’t go down.

Some toughness and maturity to rally the squad, I'm betting his vocal leadership as well gave a morale boost to the team just when we needed it. Kudos to everyone for toughing it out into OTs and especially with Jesse fouled out.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I don’t want to be negative, but this is one of the worst get-back-on-D-after-a-miss teams I can recall in recent memory.

And it’s not just the slow guys. Frank got burned in one of the OT’s. It’s like we think we can rest after scoring.

 

[dasher]

FSU is a horrible matchup, but we need to beat Nova, GTown, and everyone else this month and head into January at 9-4 at the worst.

Nova is twice as difficult a game as FSU. We can beat FSU I will be shocked if we beat Nova

 

[Cusefan0307]

Nova is twice as difficult a game as FSU. We can beat FSU I will be shocked if we beat Nova

We can win either IMO. We will have to outscore Nova. FSU isn’t as good as they have been the past 5 years. Even with our weaknesses we shouldn’t fear any ACC team outside of Duke.

And I think about me and 3 others thought we would win tonight. Indiana is good. The big kid is a legit All American.

 

[OrangeDW]

Nova is twice as difficult a game as FSU. We can beat FSU I will be shocked if we beat Nova

Hmm… really? FSU seems to be the type of athletic team who will give us fits.

Nova has shooters…but is possibly a team we can 1)win a shootout against 2) win if they have an off day? They may run us, but I at least see a potential path or two?

What’s the path to beating FSU?

 

[OrangeXtreme]