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Projected Depth Chart (Post-Standard)

If Delaine can emerge as a viable CB candidate option that would be great news as we have literally heard nothing about him since He got here. He did have 75 tackles and 5 pics his senior year of HS. At 180 lbs it would be good if he could put on another 10 lbs to put him at the same weight Garrett Williams was at the same height. He was at only 172 lbs last year so at least he is moving in the right direction.
Delaine had a terrific offer list out of HS. Glad to see he’s stepping up.
 
Experimenting in fall camp on the OLine is never a good sign.
Yup

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For a set in stone, rock solid OL

You could poll twenty people here and get twenty different combinations of who they think will be or is the best group for that position.

Really shouldn't be that much uncertainty.

Clear indicator of why they were shopping hard for transfer talent.

Wouldn't surprise me if the starting five come week five is three of the new guys - More, Wohlabaugh, Reed on one side of the line with Bleich and Cruz on the other.
 
LB is a crap shoot to guess depth in behind Wax. So many super talented guys in that room it’s remarkable. DL is pretty straight forward and I agree with that. WR is more right then not. OL is tough. Not sure if Kentucky transfer will start? Is that what we are hearing elsewhere as well? A lot of options in that room, a rarity for us. I am super excited to see what the young guns in the DB room provide. So much potential but unproven. Seeing that crazy Greg Delaine interception video was promising that we may have some ballers in that room we just don’t know about yet. Overall this team has so much depth it’s so refreshing. We have legit P5 depth for first time in who knows when.
When we win 8+ games that is why
 
Yup

My left

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For a set in stone, rock solid OL

You could poll twenty people here and get twenty different combinations of who they think will be or is the best group for that position.

Really shouldn't be that much uncertainty.

Clear indicator of why they were shopping hard for transfer talent.

Wouldn't surprise me if the starting five come week five is three of the new guys - More, Wohlabaugh, Reed on one side of the line with Bleich and Cruz on the other.
A lot of uncertainty is a given after you lose the C, and both starting OTs from last year’s group and now Ellis is sidelined in a boot per a report.

Cruz is a given and Bleich if 100% healthy. Then you have the 3 transfers you mentioned, plus Ilaoa who is a probable starter, with guys like Petry and Bradford somewhere in the mix. The coaches are cross-training and as fans we are reading tea leaves with very little to inform our guesses.

But this is temporary — 2 weeks from now, we will have an official depth chart and then game action.
 
Are we experimenting to find the best 5 or find the best way to over come injuries? Every team does this I dont think we are any different here. its a puzzle you have to solve and best do it now if you can.
 
A lot of uncertainty is a given after you lose the C, and both starting OTs from last year’s group and now Ellis is sidelined in a boot per a report.

Cruz is a given and Bleich if 100% healthy. Then you have the 3 transfers you mentioned, plus Ilaoa who is a probable starter, with guys like Petry and Bradford somewhere in the mix. The coaches are cross-training and as fans we are reading tea leaves with very little to inform our guesses.

But this is temporary — 2 weeks from now, we will have an official depth chart and then game action.
Agree, I think it’s at least partly a function of all the new faces that may be better than what you were bringing back. They have between now and Purdue to figure it out. First time in forever the schedule is set up,for success.
 
I thought a couple of position groups on the second string was interesting. She had the transfer lb on the second string. Have not heard his name mentioned at all through camp in the limited coverage. Also Brown over Kendal Long. Seemed like Long was having a good camp. OL who knows at this point. Still think someone other than Wilson will be the starting cb. Also do not see greenwood in the two deep with all the additions at S.
Little over two weeks until we all know. Let’s Go Orange.
I am not worried about our receivers. Gadsden, Alford, Long, Adams, Brown, Pena, Jones, and Hatcher r a legitimate wr corps. If we get any running game going this year, we will have a good offense. As everyone says, comes down to the big guys.
 
Delaine and Wilson are ballers. Delaine was a huge 11th hour committ at the time. People are way to quick to write off young players who might struggle a bit when pressed into action.

I’ve seen the D2 transfer kid in some videos with what appears to be 2nd team, but early on one of the veteran’s interview said he was standing out.
 
Experimenting in fall camp on the OLine is never a good sign.
Why are we the only team who moves guys around constantly. We need to seed guys in a spot so they know exactly what their teammate next to them is gonna do and how he is gonna do it. Good oline don’t swap spots constantly. We need 3 weeks of same spots,same line, and same practices to build a chemistry between each other up there. If I’m left guard and we run middle zone, I gotta step with center to neutralize nose or 1 shade and then get off to backer. Well each guys steps r different so without cohesive practices in the same spots it’s always gonna be different with different people. I know we have oline guys on this forum. Please if I’m wrong help me understand better as u guys have lived it ya know.
 
A lot of uncertainty is a given after you lose the C, and both starting OTs from last year’s group and now Ellis is sidelined in a boot per a report.

Cruz is a given and Bleich if 100% healthy. Then you have the 3 transfers you mentioned, plus Ilaoa who is a probable starter, with guys like Petry and Bradford somewhere in the mix. The coaches are cross-training and as fans we are reading tea leaves with very little to inform our guesses.

But this is temporary — 2 weeks from now, we will have an official depth chart and then game action.

Plus you have a new position coach who might want to just gather as much information as he can.

I think you also have the first two games to help work things out.
 
Why are we the only team who moves guys around constantly. We need to seed guys in a spot so they know exactly what their teammate next to them is gonna do and how he is gonna do it. Good oline don’t swap spots constantly. We need 3 weeks of same spots,same line, and same practices to build a chemistry between each other up there. If I’m left guard and we run middle zone, I gotta step with center to neutralize nose or 1 shade and then get off to backer. Well each guys steps r different so without cohesive practices in the same spots it’s always gonna be different with different people. I know we have oline guys on this forum. Please if I’m wrong help me understand better as u guys have lived it ya know.
All teams cross train to an extent, but ideally you’d have the pieces in place as you describe. The issue at SU is we just haven’t consistently had the pieces (talent) in place where we have guys lined up at their respective best spots just ready to step in if called upon. The factories can do this, we haven’t even been close to that, so we’re forced to cross train more than others.

I also think there’s an element of philosophy here. I think Dino came from a tree that did a lot of cross training and therefore he’s a believer in it. I don’t think it’s gotten us the best results necessarily, but, again, we haven’t exactly been in a position to just rack em and stack em, which ultimately is really a recruiting issue.

We have more pieces this year than in the past, which gives me hope they can find the right combo.
 
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Why are we the only team who moves guys around constantly. We need to seed guys in a spot so they know exactly what their teammate next to them is gonna do and how he is gonna do it. Good oline don’t swap spots constantly. We need 3 weeks of same spots,same line, and same practices to build a chemistry between each other up there. If I’m left guard and we run middle zone, I gotta step with center to neutralize nose or 1 shade and then get off to backer. Well each guys steps r different so without cohesive practices in the same spots it’s always gonna be different with different people. I know we have oline guys on this forum. Please if I’m wrong help me understand better as u guys have lived it ya know.
First real game is in a month. They have time to get it sorted. And they need to know who can fill in where.
 
Why are we the only team who moves guys around constantly. We need to seed guys in a spot so they know exactly what their teammate next to them is gonna do and how he is gonna do it. Good oline don’t swap spots constantly. We need 3 weeks of same spots,same line, and same practices to build a chemistry between each other up there. If I’m left guard and we run middle zone, I gotta step with center to neutralize nose or 1 shade and then get off to backer. Well each guys steps r different so without cohesive practices in the same spots it’s always gonna be different with different people. I know we have oline guys on this forum. Please if I’m wrong help me understand better as u guys have lived it ya know.
I think it depends on the individual player. I am a basketball guy, coached and played for over 30 years now. Some times I have had guys who can learn every spot and some who can barely grasp one position. If you have smart players who are versatile it makes sense to cross train, you want your best players in the game. I think it just comes down to the individual players ability to absorb knowledge in practice. Can’t have them thinking too much in game.
 
They are still evaluating best options a bit. Optimally you'd like to do a lot of that in the spring but we have guys like Reed that were not even here yet and several others injured. I'm guessing this is pretty common with other college teams especially in this transfer portal era. So they have been evaluating and cross training which is very beneficial. We obviously want to play the best guys as there can be a drop off from the top so getting them experience at different spots is critical. Injuries are going to happen. I assume there is a scrimmage tomorrow? I bet after this weekend they decide on a starting group to get them working well together. Or maybe they just made that decision already and plan to go with it for this weekend. But its possible one or two guys are still banged up and won't be ready for a couple weeks then they may try to work a couple groupings together where just that one piece is missing from each grouping. The fact that we have two easy games to start should go along way in getting the OL ready for Purdue and beyond. I'm sure moving some guys around this much now hasn't made it easy on the offensive production in practice but taking some lumps in fall camp should help the unit overall once the season starts. It all makes sense to me.
 

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