You don't even really need to go that far, a number of people who have been on the shows talk about how it's structured. It's not even anything really new from the past. Not a conspiracy.
They'll solicit takes from people when they are setting up the show, see what might be good content, discuss a nudge one way or the other, etc.
Some guests will inherently learn what works/what doesn't. Others may try to hold their line of being a bit more adherent to what they actually believe. But it's all a show at the end of the day, just remember that.
It's written, produced, manipulated, etc.