Quadir Copeland/NC St

[Mr. M]

Copeland was always going to be a good player as an upper classman. It was clear as day. Definitely needs a jumper though and you need to surround him with shooters.

Yea but with those number and percentages, he clearly found a better coach & team to optimize his talent that he wasn’t gonna get here, sad to say.

 

[Mr. M]

THIS!!! Even as much as we hate Red right now it is foolish to act like this is on him. It is on Q and Q alone. Drape Kingz on him all night and shut him down.

Generally agree but truth is likely somewhere in the middle

 

[Mr. M]

Takes time for some talented kids to “get it”. Quadir is in his last year of college ball. Good for him and for Wade. Too bad he didn’t get it earlier in his college career. He played a little less at McNeese St as a junior than at his sophomore year at SU, scoring a little less too. His stats at McNeese were pretty equivalent to his stats at SU except for a slightly better assist/to ratio (1.6 vs 1.4). Good for him being so much more efficient and impactful this year but it took 3 years time, work and patience.

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Good post

 

[Mr. M]

Yikes. I was at that game in person and I don't remember that. If that's true it would be arguably the worst thing in SU basketball history.

Which game- Regular season or the ACC tourney game?

 

[Eric15]

Which game- Regular season or the ACC tourney game?

ACCT in DC.

 

[Sherman20]

The thing that will always make me sad about Quadir is he was the happiest recruit we had. The dude loved Syracuse and was just so, so excited.

It's just a bummer when stuff doesn't work out with those guys.

Exactly. Which is why, if I was the head coach, I would’ve worked harder to keep him and guide him and give him the tough love that Will Wade clearly did to get through to him. Red gave up. Q wasn’t just some troublemaking malcontent. You could see his upside and his love of the game and of winning. He actually reminds me of DC in that regard (to bring it back to my earlier post).

 

[Bayside44]

Yeah, see, that's perfect. You need guys like that in the program once in a while. Just complete weirdos that make the game within the game really visible.

It's my hope for Sadiq White tbh.

Him and Judah combined for 12 turnovers that game. Seeing all their antics off camera was worse.

That being said he'll be Magic Johnson tomorrow.

 

[Sherman20]

I hear what you're saying but you have no idea how much Red and the staff and the players perhaps tried to get him on the right track. I specifically don't know either but do you really believe that Red and staff would not have tried multiple times talking with him and getting him situated?

I just think Red was/is ineffective at it, which is why he shouldn’t be a head coach at this level. You can see he doesn’t have enough of a charismatic, forceful, and persuasive personality. Hop did and was very effective at bringing guys like Paul Harris, Johnny Flynn, MCW, Dion, Devo and others back in line. He wasn’t just a good cop, he was a charismatic guy who players loved and was so persuasive, he made you believe in what he was selling. I think that’s always easier said than done. It takes a certain type of personality. A coach who is obviously a brilliant strategist can also be persuasive.