Again the USC facts are misinformed also. Not surprising. USC chose Enfield over Hop. If we are going to debate this stuff can we agree being informed on the facts is a good starting point?
It's not whether or not the position was offered to him, it's that he was interested in it. But I got it, you think Hopkins was extremely happy with how the whole JB retirement magically turned into indefinite status while Hop waited in the wings thinking otherwise. Got it. Thank you drive through.
I'll agree that I misstated that he turned it down when in fact he didn't get the position, but my point still stands, he was looking, and it was known that the Cuse job was his until JB turned things around unexpectedly.
You’re still very much misstating the chronology of events.
It’s unreal. Trust me I wanted Hop here more than anyone (still do), and thought he was ready even without a HC gig. But I can’t even fathom how to make the argument that SU screwed him. He had a guarantee to take over a top 10 program at the end of 2018!
Hop never turned down USC. They choose someone else.
Just wondering...if all this is true and JB was set to retire. Why did he resign for 4-5 years. If cuse was in a bad spot but JB just wanted to help out why is it lasting so long? Why would he not stay on for a year or so extra and they could have been looking for a coach?
I get that things are verifiable and everybody has said the right stuff. Ppl can believe what they want. Either way he is gone so no use in arguing.
Thank you Zona, for trying to correct the facts here and put the kibosh on this nonsense.
You’re as wrong as wrong can be. Hop WAS given a timetable. Google is your friend.
Doesn’t look like they are coming anyway...joke. Sorry maybe to soon.
I think this is where the confusion comes in for some people. There were rumors that JB tried to operate behind the scenes with influential boosters and the powers-that-be to get his retirement date pushed back. I don’t know if there’s any truth to these assertions, but I’ve heard them since this all went down in March 2017. And perhaps some boosters were agitating behind the scenes to let JB stay as head coach. But NONE of those people, including JB himself, were ultimately making that call. And Syverud and Wildhack were unequivocal in their plan (and I’m sure Hop would attest to this)—Hop would be taking over for JB after JB’s planned retirement in spring 2018. Syverud set the timeline after the sanctions were imposed, came to an agreement with Hop, and wasn’t going to go back on said agreement even if a select few boosters were going to complain. They never wavered. It was Hop that decided he didn’t want to push out JB after the Washington job was offered to him.
Hop was never screwed over. Jb has the right to keep working.
Well, I don’t know about that. JB doesn’t have “the right” to keep working here forever and ever. But Hop basically made it so by taking the Washington job instead of sticking with the planned timeline for him to take over. He didn’t want to push out his mentor, the guy who made his career possible. Totally understandable. And awesome for him in landing a great job. It’s been fine for us in the short term. JB and staff have done a good job solidifying and shoring things up (though maybe not entirely to everyone’s liking). But I do wonder if long-term it would have been better to move into the Hop era with a seasoned young coach who learned from the best but is also a tencious recruiter and competitor. Despite what some may feel right now, I still think when the time is right Hop will return to Syracuse. I think he’ll see the limitations out west in the PAC-12 as he gets further along in his tenure there. If not, we’ll get a very good coach to replace JB.
Follow the rules, make your pitch, get who you can. That's it. The rest is snowflake logic.
