RB in the passing game

[upperdeck]

surprised we have seen so little of the RB get involved. We either keep them in to pass protect or split them way out , other than a few screens thats it. I really wish some other WR was playing a bit more so we could put Phillips in the backfield on occasion and then have him leak out against a LB who may lose his attention. even strickland I would like to see get out a few times just to force the D to honor it in something besides the screen game..

lacking a real play maker at TE really shows here since they cant chip and take off late which usually ends up being a tough play to cover.. at least for our D it is.

 

[Whitey23]

surprised we have seen so little of the RB get involved. We either keep them in to pass protect or split them way out , other than a few screens thats it. I really wish some other WR was playing a bit more so we could put Phillips in the backfield on occasion and then have him leak out against a LB who may lose his attention. even strickland I would like to see get out a few times just to force the D to honor it in something besides the screen game..

lacking a real play maker at TE really shows here since they cant chip and take off late which usually ends up being a tough play to cover.. at least for our D it is.

Babers said back in training camp that RBs don't typically catch passes in his offense.

Separately, when asked why Neal was practicing with the WRs he said it was to keep developing his hands since he won't be catching many passes. Maybe this was foreshadowing to Neal moving to the slot next year.

(I'm paraphrasing the quotes since this was awhile ago and I can't find them)

 

[upperdeck]

I get that its not a focus of the offense. the last 2 yrs at BG his top 2 runners caught 35-40 passes each year.. we are on pace for about 20-25.

i am just surprised because when you look at how the D's attack this style of offense there often is no one on the D covering the RB since the are so focused on the WR routes. if the goal is to get the short passing game working and slow down a pass rush a pass to the RB does that. I think our oline hides the screen pass poorly and that lets it get blown up. FSU used the RB well in the pass game last week , we made need to too.

 

[SWC75]

I still believe that this is the best formation ever invented for offensive football:

You've got a fullback to run the ball between the tackles, block for the quarterback and be a lead blocker for the half back. You can fake to one running back and give it to the other. The halfback can run outside or inside on draw plays. he can catch passes, short or even long. You can run an option if you like: even a triple option. You've got two wide receivers and a tight end to catch the ball over the middle. The quarterback doesn't have to run the ball. On third down you can pull one of the running backs and put in an extra wide-out or a slot guy and run the play from the shotgun. You can pass all you want form this formation or run all you want. You want balance? Balance your formation.

Why we ever went away from this, I don't know. If we ever went back to it, defenses wouldn't be ready for it.

 

[CuseOnly]

I still believe that this is the best formation ever invented for offensive football:

You've got a fullback to run the ball between the tackles, block for the quarterback and be a lead blocker for the half back. You can fake to one running back and give it to the other. The halfback can run outside or inside on draw plays. he can catch passes, short or even long. You can run an option if you like: even a triple option. You've got two wide receivers and a tight end to catch the ball over the middle. The quarterback doesn't have to run the ball. On third down you can pull one of the running backs and put in an extra wide-out or a slot guy and run the play from the shotgun. You can pass all you want form this formation or run all you want. You want balance? Balance your formation.

Why we ever went away from this, I don't know. If we ever went back to it, defenses wouldn't be ready for it.

LOL, easy. Stack the box with 8, 1 high safety and man to man on the outside with great man cover corners.

 

[SUforme]

I still believe that this is the best formation ever invented for offensive football:

You've got a fullback to run the ball between the tackles, block for the quarterback and be a lead blocker for the half back. You can fake to one running back and give it to the other. The halfback can run outside or inside on draw plays. he can catch passes, short or even long. You can run an option if you like: even a triple option. You've got two wide receivers and a tight end to catch the ball over the middle. The quarterback doesn't have to run the ball. On third down you can pull one of the running backs and put in an extra wide-out or a slot guy and run the play from the shotgun. You can pass all you want form this formation or run all you want. You want balance? Balance your formation.

Why we ever went away from this, I don't know. If we ever went back to it, defenses wouldn't be ready for it.

Babers laughs...

 

[SWC75]

LOL, easy. Stack the box with 8, 1 high safety and man to man on the outside with great man cover corners.

How many great man cover corners are there in college ball? And this was the formation in the pros for decades. And you've got to cover the tight end and halfback coming out of the backfield.

 

[SWC75]

Babers laughs...

But he wants to run the ball with a single back who runs only draws - or by having Dungey take on the defense himself.

 

[SUforme]

But he wants to run the ball with a single back who runs only draws - or by having Dungey take on the defense himself.

When everything starts clicking it will be different. This offense does have a running game element. Small sample size but Baylor's offense ran for 600 yards against NC in a bowl game. We need RBs it will happen.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I still believe that this is the best formation ever invented for offensive football:

You've got a fullback to run the ball between the tackles, block for the quarterback and be a lead blocker for the half back. You can fake to one running back and give it to the other. The halfback can run outside or inside on draw plays. he can catch passes, short or even long. You can run an option if you like: even a triple option. You've got two wide receivers and a tight end to catch the ball over the middle. The quarterback doesn't have to run the ball. On third down you can pull one of the running backs and put in an extra wide-out or a slot guy and run the play from the shotgun. You can pass all you want form this formation or run all you want. You want balance? Balance your formation.

Why we ever went away from this, I don't know. If we ever went back to it, defenses wouldn't be ready for it.

Wow, a fullback. Growing up I thought that was essential to every offense - and good fullbacks were tough to find. Today? I actually had not thought about that as a position all season until now. That's crazy.

I'll tell you where that formation is freaking fantastic is the red zone - loads of short yardage options.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

How many great man cover corners are there in college ball? And this was the formation in the pros for decades. And you've got to cover the tight end and halfback coming out of the backfield.

All of the great NFL cover corners were in college.