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Reason behind the Transfer Portal

How old are you? Are you really suggesting that kids shouldn't be able to transfer and play because it hurts your viewing pleasure? LOL It's their life.
I’m old enough to know better than to ask other grown men how old they are in a disrespectful manner. College football is a business, not a benevolent activity of student growth. If anyone here needs to grow up it’s you.
 
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I’m old enough to know better than to ask other grown men how old they are in a disrespectful manner. College football is a business, not a benevolent activity of student growth. If anyone here needs to grow up it’s you.
Yeah, I'm the one who demands players stay at a place they don't want to be and I need to grow up. LOL I guess any business should be able to force a person to stay at their employment or sit out a year if they leave their employment. That would be pretty dumb. Just like making players stay at the same school while their coaches can get up and leave any time.
 
Yeah, I'm the one who demands players stay at a place they don't want to be and I need to grow up. LOL
If you want to pompously act as if you’re more mature than others, you may want to begin with cutting out the “LOL” bit. Just a suggestion.
 
If you want to pompously act as if you’re more mature than others, you may want to begin with cutting out the “LOL” bit. Just a suggestion.
Sorry. Your post really made me laugh.
 
I honestly thought the transfer portal would bring more parity to college football. Will be interesting to see if it’s the opposite. Syracuse should be going after the second stringers at big schools.
 
This is the exact same debate that was had when baseball started free agency. Syracuse needs to figure out how to moneyball the transfer portal and quit acting like it's an annoying fad. It should work in the favor of lower level P5 teams. I don't think the new coaches at UMASS and UCONN are going to have any problem using it and leaving Syracuse in the past, where they seem to dwell.
 
This is the exact same debate that was had when baseball started free agency. Syracuse needs to figure out how to moneyball the transfer portal and quit acting like it's an annoying fad. It should work in the favor of lower level P5 teams. I don't think the new coaches at UMASS and UCONN are going to have any problem using it and leaving Syracuse in the past, where they seem to dwell.
UMass and UConn again? Good grief.
 
I honestly thought the transfer portal would bring more parity to college football. Will be interesting to see if it’s the opposite. Syracuse should be going after the second stringers at big schools.
Look, we are all going to hate it when we lose a good player. But, we will love it when we get a guy that really helps us. In hoop, we lose a bunch of guys and get two starters and a sub. In football, our starting qb. like anything else, there will be winners and losers in this thing.
 
This is the exact same debate that was had when baseball started free agency. Syracuse needs to figure out how to moneyball the transfer portal and quit acting like it's an annoying fad. It should work in the favor of lower level P5 teams. I don't think the new coaches at UMASS and UCONN are going to have any problem using it and leaving Syracuse in the past, where they seem to dwell.
We have 5 wins. When will UMass and UConn combine for 5 wins? How many years?
 
I think a simple solution is you cannot enter the portal until the semester is over. So if a kid wants to enter the portal this year it cannot be until December 17th. If you are not happy after Spring ball you can enter the portal May 5th. That prevents you from quitting mid season on both your team and your studies. They are supposed to be there for academics after all.
 
I think a simple solution is you cannot enter the portal until the semester is over. So if a kid wants to enter the portal this year it cannot be until December 17th. If you are not happy after Spring ball you can enter the portal May 5th. That prevents you from quitting mid season on both your team and your studies. They are supposed to be there for academics after all.

If you quit on your studies, you can't transfer and play right away...

Transferring college athletes also must meet progress-toward-degree requirements and be otherwise academically eligible to compete immediately after transfer.

 
I thought that the portal/one free transfer was the best way to address the hypocrisy of the NCAA. It seemed that players transferring to the 'name' programs almost always got the waiver while the at the 'lesser' programs the player had to sit out. Even if the player was transferring for legit reasons. Or the NCAA dragged its feet until most of the season was over. The system we have now, while may be having some unintended issues, I think if still much more fair for the lesser programs than the previous way.
 
Yeah, I'm the one who demands players stay at a place they don't want to be and I need to grow up. LOL I guess any business should be able to force a person to stay at their employment or sit out a year if they leave their employment. That would be pretty dumb. Just like making players stay at the same school while their coaches can get up and leave any time.
I have to ask you how old you are. Did you get the same rights when you were in college as teachers or other adults who had also in their past gone to school and were subject to the same rules that you were? Why do you feel players/ students should have all the same rights as coaches who are now out in the world supporting their families? A player can leave but I don't think for a second that there shouldn't be a wait period for somebody given a scholarship. There is give and take for everything in life or at least there should be. What don't you understand?
 
Yeah, I'm the one who demands players stay at a place they don't want to be and I need to grow up. LOL I guess any business should be able to force a person to stay at their employment or sit out a year if they leave their employment. That would be pretty dumb. Just like making players stay at the same school while their coaches can get up and leave any time.
Actually, companies do this quite frequently with non-compete agreements and tuition reimbursement programs.

You want to leave and sign with the competition? You can't sell their products/services in this market for 1 year.

You want to be reimbursed for tuition spent obtaining advanced degrees? Sign this 3 year commitment to stay at the company (and if you leave before the 3 years you will not receive the pro rata share of your tuition or be forced to pay the balance if the company paid up front).
 
I have to ask you how old you are. Did you get the same rights when you were in college as teachers or other adults who had also in their past gone to school and were subject to the same rules that you were? Why do you feel players/ students should have all the same rights as coaches who are now out in the world supporting their families? A player can leave but I don't think for a second that there shouldn't be a wait period for somebody given a scholarship. There is give and take for everything in life or at least there should be. What don't you understand?
I think that is ridiculous. Why should they have to wait? Do I like it as a fan? No. But last I looked, as a student at Syracuse, I could have left and started taking classes right away at a new school. Just like my professor's could. Can a cheerleader be a cheerleader for a new school? A band member? A math club kid? By the way, I hate that kids can leave and play right away. as a fan. But I'm not so selfish that I can't see what is right and what is wrong. We don't like it because it hurts our rooting interest. Not for any solid reason.
 
Actually, companies do this quite frequently with non-compete agreements and tuition reimbursement programs.

You want to leave and sign with the competition? You can't sell their products/services in this market for 1 year.

You want to be reimbursed for tuition spent obtaining advanced degrees? Sign this 3 year commitment to stay at the company (and if you leave before the 3 years you will not receive the pro rata share of your tuition or be forced to pay the balance if the company paid up front).
I have been in a business with non compete for the last 40 years. I have never seen one hold up in court. Good luck with that. The tuition is a different story. The firm would have a right to get their money back if that was the deal they made.
 
Actually, companies do this quite frequently with non-compete agreements and tuition reimbursement programs.

You want to leave and sign with the competition? You can't sell their products/services in this market for 1 year.

You want to be reimbursed for tuition spent obtaining advanced degrees? Sign this 3 year commitment to stay at the company (and if you leave before the 3 years you will not receive the pro rata share of your tuition or be forced to pay the balance if the company paid up front).
That would be admitting the players are employees, which would mean they would have to be compensated. NCAA is avoiding that at all costs.
 
That would be admitting the players are employees, which would mean they would have to be compensated. NCAA is avoiding that at all costs.
Yes, I agree.

Just pointing out that dasher's example already exists.
 
I have been in a business with non compete for the last 40 years. I have never seen one hold up in court. Good luck with that. The tuition is a different story. The firm would have a right to get their money back if that was the deal they made.
Maybe they're less tenable in your industry (media?) but they hold up quite well in others.

And what person (or company) wants to deal with a legal battle to resolve a non compete agreement. They'd all just wait out the year.
 
I think that is ridiculous. Why should they have to wait? Do I like it as a fan? No. But last I looked, as a student at Syracuse, I could have left and started taking classes right away at a new school. Just like my professor's could. Can a cheerleader be a cheerleader for a new school? A band member? A math club kid? By the way, I hate that kids can leave and play right away. as a fan. But I'm not so selfish that I can't see what is right and what is wrong. We don't like it because it hurts our rooting interest. Not for any solid reason.
Do all those non athletes leaving have their tuition paid for? I would say that is a SUBSTANTIAL difference between the 2. Wouldn't you?
 
"Transfer Portal" is a nice way of saying "FREE AGENCY".

Just like college coaches and break contracts and leave a school to take another job for big bucks. Now college athletes can leave at any time and go to another school to make more money (NIL).

And make no mistake about this, it is FREE AGENCY! Sure, some kids are leaving to get more playing time elsewhere (but those are marginal players who can't get playing time at the school they are at). The vast majority of these kids are leaving to get more NIL money and play at a bigger school with more money-making opportunities.
 
I honestly thought the transfer portal would bring more parity to college football. Will be interesting to see if it’s the opposite. Syracuse should be going after the second stringers at big schools.
All the transfer portal did was create a farm system for the "BIG BOYS" ...If Ohio St, Bama, LSU, Clemson, Georgia...etc. Ever find themselves "thin" or "weak" at a given position heading into a season. They will use that offseason, through back-channels, to get word to a quality/good player at a smaller school (ie Indiana, Syracuse, Boston College, TCU...etc) and entice them to transfer to their school to make more $$$$ and to be on a larger platform to get noticed.

This is a total major league/minor league set up and now with money involved the transfer portal is just a way for the big boy football schools to throw around their clout, money, and numerous advantages they have over the smaller football schools to "cherry-pick" the good players the smaller schools develop.

The gap between the "haves" and the "have-mores" will just get greater because of the transfer portal.
 
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Can someone please explain to me why it exists; how did it come to be, and who exactly caused this change to happen?
People in the thread are combining two different things, the Transfer Portal and the change to the transfer rule, that are related, but not the same. The Transfer Portal came first. It is a website where athletes announce that they want to transfer and allows schools to recruit them without being hit with a penalty for tampering. There have been a large number of athletes who have entered the portal and either withdrew their names or were not recruited by another school. The change to the transfer rule allows undergraduate athletes to one "free" transfer without having to sit out for a year like they did before. And, as OrangeXtreme pointed out, athletes must be in good academic standing in order to transfer and play immediately. Graduate transfers probably use the Portal to find another school to play for while they are in graduate school.
 

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