Remember the temple game near the end of the P era?

[SUinNWE]

Can we all PLEASE remember that a first time head coach is going to take us to a bowl game? When’s the last time that happened? Has it ever happened?

Shafer

 

[sdhall01]

Shafer

Oh yeah, that’s true. We won the Texas bowl before collapsing. We don’t beat 2 top 25 teams, though.

 

[gmoney44]

Nah a good running team off a bye had it's way with our 3rd string DL. Not saying we deserved to win but the offense kept us right there. Wasn't a home game.

Won't beat Cal if we play that bad but fans are eager to impose stupid expectations and think we should be in the playoffs.

So teams can use the bye week to their advantage? Who would have thought.

 

[CuseVegas]

We all know you were dead wrong back in 2004 if you wanted Pasqualoni out- that is not up for debate lol. Even non-football people could figure that out by now.

I've got to say, that as a die hard Cuse fan for ~40 years now it amazes me that, purely from a football perspective, that some folks still don't understand how detrimental it was to our program to fire Coach Pasqualoni. Losing decades of relationships and starting from scratch has (mostly) been hell to watch for the past 20 years.

I say this not towards anyone in particular... but to me, it is honestly ridiculous in 2024 to still be trying to say we should have fired Pasqualoni. To me, the people that still think we should have tanked the program back and fired P back in 2004 are toxic to our current situation. The main reason I am particularly in on Fran is because he completely disagrees with all the Pasqualoni hating and he mentioned George Deleone in his opening press conference... which all means to me that he actually knows how hard it is to win football games and recruit NFL-caliber players.

I know it is human nature for people to never admit they were wrong... but the P-hating fans were wrong, and their vocal negativity truly hurt the program. That said... it is OK to have been wrong about a coaching change 20 years ago. While Pasqualoni is still alive, I think Cuse fans should embrace reality and appreciate what we had... that has always been my feeling. Is Syracuse really the kind of place where our great coaches get run out of town and never return to be honored? Nobody has matched him or come close... it was a very stupid idea to run him and Ray Rice out of town. To me some people need to just 'let go' and laugh about how wrong they were back in 2004 in order for us to move forward and enjoy being Cuse fans.

 

[OburgOrange]

We all know you were dead wrong back in 2004 if you wanted Pasqualoni out- that is not up for debate lol. Even non-football people could figure that out by now.

I've got to say, that as a die hard Cuse fan for ~40 years now it amazes me that, purely from a football perspective, that some folks still don't understand how detrimental it was to our program to fire Coach Pasqualoni. Losing decades of relationships and starting from scratch has (mostly) been hell to watch for the past 20 years.

I say this not towards anyone in particular... but to me, it is honestly ridiculous in 2024 to still be trying to say we should have fired Pasqualoni. To me, the people that still think we should have tanked the program back and fired P back in 2004 are toxic to our current situation. The main reason I am particularly in on Fran is because he completely disagrees with all the Pasqualoni hating and he mentioned George Deleone in his opening press conference... which all means to me that he actually knows how hard it is to win football games and recruit NFL-caliber players.

I know it is human nature for people to never admit they were wrong... but the P-hating fans were wrong, and their vocal negativity truly hurt the program. That said... it is OK to have been wrong about a coaching change 20 years ago. While Pasqualoni is still alive, I think Cuse fans should embrace reality and appreciate what we had... that has always been my feeling. Is Syracuse really the kind of place where our great coaches get run out of town and never return to be honored? Nobody has matched him or come close... it was a very stupid idea to run him and Ray Rice out of town. To me some people need to just 'let go' and laugh about how wrong they were back in 2004 in order for us to move forward and enjoy being Cuse fans.

Coach Mac is going up in the ring of honor this year at the UConn game. Coach P should be next year, and honored at halftime of a game. It’s time

 

[OrgTruckPat]

We all know you were dead wrong back in 2004 if you wanted Pasqualoni out- that is not up for debate lol. Even non-football people could figure that out by now.

I've got to say, that as a die hard Cuse fan for ~40 years now it amazes me that, purely from a football perspective, that some folks still don't understand how detrimental it was to our program to fire Coach Pasqualoni. Losing decades of relationships and starting from scratch has (mostly) been hell to watch for the past 20 years.

I say this not towards anyone in particular... but to me, it is honestly ridiculous in 2024 to still be trying to say we should have fired Pasqualoni. To me, the people that still think we should have tanked the program back and fired P back in 2004 are toxic to our current situation. The main reason I am particularly in on Fran is because he completely disagrees with all the Pasqualoni hating and he mentioned George Deleone in his opening press conference... which all means to me that he actually knows how hard it is to win football games and recruit NFL-caliber players.

I know it is human nature for people to never admit they were wrong... but the P-hating fans were wrong, and their vocal negativity truly hurt the program. That said... it is OK to have been wrong about a coaching change 20 years ago. While Pasqualoni is still alive, I think Cuse fans should embrace reality and appreciate what we had... that has always been my feeling. Is Syracuse really the kind of place where our great coaches get run out of town and never return to be honored? Nobody has matched him or come close... it was a very stupid idea to run him and Ray Rice out of town. To me some people need to just 'let go' and laugh about how wrong they were back in 2004 in order for us to move forward and enjoy being Cuse fans.

P was a great man and a good coach. His time was also beyond up after 04. More than one thing can be true at the same time.

 

[Pyle]

P hit a bad skid due to Vick's commitment, lack of resources, and loyalty to an outdated OC. Paterno also hit a bad skid. We fired P and suffered 20 years of garbage. P State didn't fire Paterno and found success just a few years after Joe figured out his crap. You guys hanging on to this idea it was still his time are hardheaded, stubborn, and probably don't learn from your own mistakes. P needed resources and time to correct the ship. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't but we fired a guy who had what 1 losing regular season in a decade and a half? Our floor used to be a bowl game. It's taken us 20 years just to get back to that point. Firing P was BAD. Only your ego is telling you otherwise at this point.

Ask yourself this? At what point in the past 20 years have we had a stretch of 3 years that were better than any part of the P era, even at the end? Marrone maybe? But those were 8 win seasons and P was certainly capable of those.

 

[Cusefan95]

P hit a bad skid due to Vick's commitment, lack of resources, and loyalty to an outdated OC. Paterno also hit a bad skid. We fired P and suffered 20 years of garbage. P State didn't fire Paterno and found success just a few years after Joe figured out his crap. You guys hanging on to this idea it was still his time are hardheaded, stubborn, and probably don't learn from your own mistakes. P needed resources and time to correct the ship. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't but we fired a guy who had what 1 losing regular season in a decade and a half? Our floor used to be a bowl game. It's taken us 20 years just to get back to that point. Firing P was BAD. Only your ego is telling you otherwise at this point.

Ask yourself this? At what point in the past 20 years have we had a stretch of 3 years that were better than any part of the P era, even at the end? Marrone maybe? But those were 8 win seasons and P was certainly capable of those.

Coach P wasn't going to right the program - that was never, ever going to happen. Firing him after a bowl game when the hiring cycle was over was insane - it either needed to be done before that or after the next season - but the guy who had dutifully stayed quiet while we fell further and further behind in facilities was never going to rock the ship. And we needed a guy who would start to rock the ship.

 

[Eric15]

And then the following Saturday we played Siena (in Albany) in hoops and BC in Boston in football at the same time. I just assumed BC would kill us so we went to the basketball game, and were in absolute shock at seeing the score afterwards.