Rickie Collins

[SUFaninNJ]

Yes please……

Well, it all started with a paranoid Andrew Jackson accusing the Second Bank of the United States of trying to kill him. He vowed that he would instead kill it. He chose not to renew the charter. Losing the bank set off financial chaos and inflation. Van Buren, now president, chose to go with a laissez faire approach and initially did nothing to pull the country out of the depression.

That's pretty much the basics in a nutshell.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Some of us still teach history in school (cough, cough).

I think you mean “indoctrinate.”

 

[qdawgg]

Well, it all started with a paranoid Andrew Jackson accusing the Second Bank of the United States of trying to kill him. He vowed that he would instead kill it. He chose not to renew the charter. Losing the bank set off financial chaos and inflation. Van Buren, now president, chose to go with a laissez faire approach and initially did nothing to pull the country out of the depression.

That's pretty much the basics in a nutshell.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

Thank you, I’m a history teacher too, for this time period but largely just sit around on Syracuse msg boards. So I forgot all this stuff.

 

[qdawgg]

I think you mean “indoctrinate.”

Which apparently we’ve done a poor job at, if that’s the case.

 

[qdawgg]

Kiss ass

I brought him an apple too.

 

[SU in Hershey]

Well, it all started with a paranoid Andrew Jackson accusing the Second Bank of the United States of trying to kill him. He vowed that he would instead kill it. He chose not to renew the charter. Losing the bank set off financial chaos and inflation. Van Buren, now president, chose to go with a laissez faire approach and initially did nothing to pull the country out of the depression.

That's pretty much the basics in a nutshell.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

Between this and overriding the Supreme Court to complete the Indian Removal Act (aka Trail of Tears, for specifically the Cherokee nation, I believe), I don't know how his face continues to "grace" the $20 bill. It's a travesty.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Between this and overriding the Supreme Court to complete the Indian Removal Act (aka Trail of Tears, for specifically the Cherokee nation, I believe), I don't know how his face continues to "grace" the $20 bill. It's a travesty.

Not to nitpick, but you're conflating two things. He pushed the Indian Removal Act through Congress. He also told Chief Justice Marshall to basically shove it when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Cherokee in Worcester v Georgia. I wholeheartedly agree with you that there are far better choices for the $20 bill. Especially when you consider that he disdained paper money and hated the Bank of the US. Add that to his personal foibles and yeah, they could've chosen pretty much anyone else to be on the 20 dollar bill and it would've been an improvement.

 

[Dick_in_MI]

Martin Van Buren Jr was a son of Martin Van Buren Sr., our 8th president. While he was from Kinderhook NY, in our prime recruiting area, alas he was not considered a P5 prospect given he died in 1855.

Martin was a distant cousin of mine. At 5’6” and stocky, he would have been better suited to be a catcher than a basketball player. Visually, I think he would have made a good Deadhead, and with the country being smaller in those days he wouldn’t have had to travel too far to follow Jerry Garcia and the guys from show to show. I can really picture him in a tie-dyed shirt.

While letting my freak flag fly as a student at SU, I tried growing giant sideburns like Martin’s but couldn’t even come close. Well done, Cousin Martin. Well done.

 

[PAcuse]

Between this and overriding the Supreme Court to complete the Indian Removal Act (aka Trail of Tears, for specifically the Cherokee nation, I believe), I don't know how his face continues to "grace" the $20 bill. It's a travesty.

OHHH Andrew Jackson shaming, I'm IN!

He wanted to commit genocide on the Native Americans so he could extend white power and increase slavery.
People only really know or focus on the Cherokees that where killed but thousand more Creek, Choctaw, Seminole, and others.

Never should have been on the $20, all we need for him is a museum to expose how horrible of a President and human being he was.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Thank you, I’m a history teacher too, for this time period but largely just sit around on Syracuse msg boards. So I forgot all this stuff.

Did you have any classes with Dr. Bennett at SU?

 

[CbusCuse]

FIFY.

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RIP Alan Rickman. I remember when he passed. I CAN NOT believe that was 9 years ago! Dang.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Chester A. Arthur. 21st President. 1881-1885.

He was Collector of Customs in NYC.

I did a report on Chester A. Arthur way back in high school.

Interesting character. Fat guy, super likable supposedly. Basically got put into office by a political machine, which he later disassembled.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Thank you, I’m a history teacher too, for this time period but largely just sit around on Syracuse msg boards. So I forgot all this stuff.

Sounds like a pretty good life imo.

 

[OrangeTown]

I'd like to point out that it was 2 of our esteemed mods that started this epic derailment.

 

[SU in Hershey]

OHHH Andrew Jackson shaming, I'm IN!

He wanted to commit genocide on the Native Americans so he could extend white power and increase slavery.
People only really know or focus on the Cherokees that where killed but thousand more Creek, Choctaw, Seminole, and others.

Never should have been on the $20, all we need for him is a museum to expose how horrible of a President and human being he was.

Last comment on this (I apologize for the derailment): I didn't mean to imply that the Cherokee were the only, or even the majority of victims from the Trail of Tears. I think, and like I said...i may be wrong...that the name Trail of Tears came to be as a result of the Cherokee's march. Okay, I'm done. I love me a little history!

 

[Roger N]

I can fill everyone in on the Panic of 1837 if y'all need a history lesson. Some of us still teach history in school (cough, cough).

When was the Panic?

 

[CA Monk]

OK Orange (and MVB) fans. Here's some Martin Van Buren presidential paraphernalia of the 1st order. I possess an actual check written by MVB. It reads:
Cashier of the Mechanics and Farmers Bank Albany - Pay Dr. Waddle (sic) or bearer fifty dollars Jan 4 1829 M. Van Buren $50

$50 dollars was a princely sum in 1829. It is verified by PSA/DNA. I don't think I'll be cashing it.

 

[Wrinkle]

I get banned from the Jerry Deng thread for light ribbing of Chris Bell and you guys are in here discussing the Trail of Tears

 

[qdawgg]

When was the Panic?

2 days ago….

 

[qdawgg]

Sounds like a pretty good life imo.

It beats being in the car business for 10 years. Granted, I’m 20 years in to teaching and also teach at a college. In 4 years I’ll make what I was making selling cars 20 years ago. But you can’t have everything. At least now I have a life. Ish.

 

[Moontan]

And here we go again...
I thought this was a Rickie Collins thread.

Be careful, or orange79 will lock the thread.

 

[anomander]

Hope we don’t lose #2.

being a RsFr I would stick it out. Who knows what happens. Rickie could have a fluke injury in game 1 and be out for the year. Leaving now only puts you behind the 8 ball at another school where you’re certainly not guaranteed a starting role unless you drop a level or 2. I think he stays this season and lets it play out….or i hope .

 

[orangepassion]

being a RsFr I would stick it out. Who knows what happens. Rickie could have a fluke injury in game 1 and be out for the year. Leaving now only puts you behind the 8 ball at another school where you’re certainly not guaranteed a starting role unless you drop a level or 2. I think he stays this season and lets it play out….or i hope .

Plus he knows the offense here.

 

[rocklloyd]

RIP Alan Rickman. I remember when he passed. I CAN NOT believe that was 9 years ago! Dang.

“the code mr takagi“ is all I think about when I hear his name.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

“the code mr takagi“ is all I think about when I hear his name.

Mr. Takagi won't be joining us for the rest of his life.