Ridiculous Harper suspension

[dasher]

Guess I'm on an island on this one.

Pitchers hit batters. Deliberately. Weekly. Whether he's throwing 88 or 98 doesn't matter, and I don't think his assumed justification (home runs years ago) does either. In baseball, pitchers throw at batters and it's not usually a big deal. It only becomes a noteworthy situation when the brain-dead child in the batter's box has a meltdown. Given that, it's weird that his suspension is lighter than the suspension of the pitcher who didn't act outside the bounds of what's normal in the game.

I don't know how old you are but my hero growing up was a guy named Tony Conigliaro. He was on his way to becoming a Hall of Famer. More HR's before the age of 22 than anyone in the history of the game at that point. He was blinded by a pitch. Changed his life. Throwing at someone is often part of the game. Not years later. It was a bush league move. Take Harper out of the equation and substitute, say Conforto. you have to stand up for yourself. If Harper doesn't charge the mound, Strickland just goes on like nothing happened. i don't fault Harper one bit.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

This guy hit a home run against me...bean him.

This guy ran the bases too slowly after hitting a home run against me...bean him.

This guy celebrated too much after hitting a big home run against us...bean him.

This young player is doing too well...bean him.

I don't like this guy...bean him.

But the hitters can't retaliate? Bean away, but you deserve whatever helmets, fists, and suspension come your way for starting the whole thing.

The better solution would be to stop sucking at pitching and get the guy out.

Yeah. Baseball can be dumb.

 

[dasher]

Not always. Sometimes you need to defend your teammates. Bothers me in the AL though, because the pitcher doesn't have to step up to the plate to face the consequences.

This case though, holding a grudge for 3 years when you won the WS anyway? Yes, absolute crap.

I think Strickland asked Posey to stay there before he threw the pitch.

They don't throw at the pitcher in the N.L. anyway. they retaliate against the other teams best hitter.

 

[dasher]

Not totally on an island, you can get there by a bridge. I didn't like Harper's helmet toss. It was at worst a terrible throw, at best a way to start an unfair fight. You want to fight him, then just fight him. It's like Varitek trying to fight ARod with a catcher's glove and a mask on. I hate that stuff.

Not to mention, how many ejections is that for Harper? It's not all just an accident. He needs to clean that up before he joins the Yankees in 2019. I don't blame him for charging the mound on this one though.

Having said that, the 98 mph baseball is a weapon too. Strickland deserves the harsher punishment. His will stay at 6. And should be more just based on innings lost (pitchers always make out better than full time position players on these). I bet Harper's is reduced to 2 or 3.

lol varitek was just trying to protect his rookie pitcher from A-hole A-rod. A-rod like to go after young players. A guy like Varitec, not so much.

 

[Knicks411]

I don't know how old you are but my hero growing up was a guy named Tony Conigliaro. He was on hie way to becoming a Hall of Famer. More HR's before the age of 22 than anyone in the history of the game at that point. He was blinded by a pitch. Changed his life. Throwing at someone is often part of the game. Not years later. It was a bush league move. Take Harper out of the equation and substitute, say Conforto. you have to stand up for yourself. If Harper doesn't charge the mound, Strickland just goes on like nothing happened. i don't fault Harper one bit.

I don't think this would have mattered for him, but maybe it would have, but anyway: It blows my mind how long it took for batting helmets to become mandatory. Ray Chapman was killed in 1920. I think it wasn't until the 70's they were mandatory.

 

[Chip]

That just feeds the problem.

It's been going on forever, we're still here. But I imagine soon that batters will step up to the plate wearing an iron suit.

 

[Bayside44]

They don't throw at the pitcher in the N.L. anyway. they retaliate against the other teams best hitter.

 

[dasher]

Sort of makes my point. Clemens didn't get hit. And it wouldn't be hard for a major league pitcher to hit that fat @ss.

 

[Bayside44]

Sort of makes my point. Clemens didn't get hit. And it wouldn't be hard for a major league pitcher to hit that fat @ss.

Ironically Estes hit a 2 run homer off Clemens in the 5th.

 

[Bayside44]

Not totally on an island, you can get there by a bridge. I didn't like Harper's helmet toss. It was at worst a terrible throw, at best a way to start an unfair fight. You want to fight him, then just fight him. It's like Varitek trying to fight ARod with a catcher's glove and a mask on. I hate that stuff.

Not to mention, how many ejections is that for Harper? It's not all just an accident. He needs to clean that up before he joins the Yankees in 2019. I don't blame him for charging the mound on this one though.

Having said that, the 98 mph baseball is a weapon too. Strickland deserves the harsher punishment. His will stay at 6. And should be more just based on innings lost (pitchers always make out better than full time position players on these). I bet Harper's is reduced to 2 or 3.

He'll end up on the Dodgers...

 

[OttoMets]

I don't know how old you are but my hero growing up was a guy named Tony Conigliaro. He was on his way to becoming a Hall of Famer. More HR's before the age of 22 than anyone in the history of the game at that point. He was blinded by a pitch. Changed his life. Throwing at someone is often part of the game. Not years later. It was a bush league move. Take Harper out of the equation and substitute, say Conforto. you have to stand up for yourself. If Harper doesn't charge the mound, Strickland just goes on like nothing happened. i don't fault Harper one bit.

Conigliaro wasn't blinded by a pitch thrown at his ass. You know that.

 

[Chip]

lol varitek was just trying to protect his rookie pitcher from A-hole A-rod. A-rod like to go after young players. A guy like Varitec, not so much.

29 year old A-Rod bullying 27 year old Arroyo.

Varitek punching with a glove on and a mask on.

Some of your best work dasher.

 

[OttoMets]

I don't think this would have mattered for him, but maybe it would have, but anyway: It blows my mind how long it took for batting helmets to become mandatory. Ray Chapman was killed in 1920. I think it wasn't until the 70's they were mandatory.

And guys were grandfathered past the rule mandating ear flaps well into the late '90s. Gary Gaetti maybe? I remember a few players going up there without that protection not that long ago.

 

[Chip]

He'll end up on the Dodgers...

Then Machado better get his s word together. This .210 batting average is crushing my future, and my present (my first pick in fantasy this year).

 

[Knicks411]

And guys were grandfathered past the rule mandating ear flaps well into the late '90s. Gary Gaetti maybe? I remember a few players going up there without that protection not that long ago.

Good call on gaetti. Wiki says Tim Raines was the last guy, in 2002. 2002!!

 

[dasher]

29 year old A-Rod bullying 27 year old Arroyo.

Varitek punching with a glove on and a mask on.

Some of your best work dasher.

one guy highly respected in the game, the other, I'll be kind. Not so much. Arroyo was basically a rookie. later he would try the bush league wrist slap on Arroyo. And then throw his hands up. Who me? Like Pedroia was when A-rod came up high on him. Like the kid that A-rod yelled at on the pop up. Even you have to know Chip, that is just who A-rod is. Like giving Cervelli up to the investigators. A-rod was acting like a bitch. And Veritec made him his. No more complicated than that.

 

[dasher]

Conigliaro wasn't blinded by a pitch thrown at his ass. You know that.

When you start throwing at people, it can lead to terrible results. You know that as well.

 

[Chip]

one guy highly respected in the game, the other, I'll be kind. Not so much. Arroyo was basically a rookie. later he would try the bush league wrist slap on Arroyo. And then throw his hands up. Who me? Like Pedroia was when A-rod came up high on him. Like the kid that A-rod yelled at on the pop up. Even you have to know Chip, that is just who A-rod is. Like giving Cervelli up to the investigators. A-rod was acting like a bitch. And Veritec made him his. No more complicated than that.

A-Rod is the worst.

Variteck is a sissy. He takes off his glove and his mask and punches A-Rod, I'd still sing his praises to this day. But he didn't.

You are going to get dizzy trying to spin this.

 

[AirForceOrange]

 

[dasher]

A-Rod is the worst.

Variteck is a sissy. He takes off his glove and his mask and punches A-Rod, I'd still sing his praises to this day. But he didn't.

You are going to get dizzy trying to spin this.

No spin. Think of just how dumb the statement Varitec is a sissy is. Things got hot very quickly. Varitec did what he should have done. There is a reason that varitec is one of the most respected players in the game over the last 15 years. And it sure isn't because he is a sissy.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

It's been going on forever, we're still here.

Yeah, bean ballin' not bringing on the apocalypse isn't really the standard I'm holding it to.

It's dumb, dangerous, and unnecessary. The practice should end.

 

[Hoo's That]

He threw at him because he hit two homers off him almost three year ago...bush league...and oh, also because he doesn't like Harper...which seems like you don't as well...Even his own teammates waited a few seconds before running in there, they knew it was ridiculous...

You're right about that. I don't like him, think he's trashy.

But what the pitcher did isn't unusual. It wasn't dirty or dangerous - the pitch was at his hip. The only thing that was remarkable about this was the batter's meltdown. And it's the latest in a pattern of that kind of behavior from him.

You're gonna like him even less when he starts wearing pinstripes in 2019.

 

[OttoMets]

You're gonna like him even less when he starts wearing pinstripes in 2019.

I might like it a little - he won't play my favorite team 19 times a summer and he'll have a years-long tantrum as the New York fans and press lose patience with his nonsense.

 

[AirForceOrange]

I might like it a little - he won't play my favorite team 19 times a summer and he'll have a years-long tantrum as the New York fans and press lose patience with his nonsense.

Pfft...you forget, although he was one of the greatest owners, we had The Boss...

 

[Chip]

Yeah, bean ballin' not bringing on the apocalypse isn't really the standard I'm holding it to.

It's dumb, dangerous, and unnecessary. The practice should end.

If you go after hockey fights, we're done.