Class of 2024 SG Gavin Doty (NY) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (4/7/26)

[chadvader]

Going to miss him at Siena ...Oh and best of all the dude doesn't miss free throws.

 

[shu 49]

Going to miss him at Siena ...Oh and best of all the dude doesn't miss free throws.

Well we need that I will tell ya. I’m a wrestler and can make 6 outta ten on average or I did when I was younger. We have to improve that. Lost us Houston game plus I’m sure of a few others.

 

[tep624]

John Wallace made the jump as a shooter 0 as a frosh to 42 pct as a senior.

Kris Joseph went from a 20 pct 3 pt shooter to 35pct

Wes Johnson went from 29 pct as a frosh at Iowa state to 41 pct the year he played here

Rautins went up every year from 32 pct to 40 pct

Scoop went from 27 pct to 37 pct

Not possible. It never happens.

I would add to this Otis Hill’s mid range game that developed out of thin air.

 

[orange79]

Going to miss him at Siena ...Oh and best of all the dude doesn't miss free throws.

Well, he hasn't played at Syracuse yet.

 

[sufan59]

Well, he hasn't played at Syracuse yet.

Making free throws at a very high percentage at Syracuse is like getting a double digit under par score playing the US Open.

 

[bnoro]

Gavin is a junkyard dog type of player. Will grab rebounds through the trees that you think he has no business in grabbing. Syracuse has lacked that type of player for a long time. He also really improved his 3 pt shooting percentage from freshman year to sophomore year and credited G-Mac with keeping him honest with his form. Would not be shocked to see him continue to add to his skill set and get better as he is that type of player who seems to love basketball and love winning.

And if I remember correctly during one postgame he credited GMac with telling him to stand tall through his jump shot which led to more consistency in his shooting. Think there is more to unlock there.

junkyard dog, gym rat, hard worker, loves basketball, loves winning, etc

 

[bnoro]

I think what’s annoying is that you’re letting your preference turn into relentless negativity and beating the crap out of near every move

Let it play out. Wouldn’t you love to be wrong?

Would love to be wrong. But the relentless positivity on a kid coming from Siena turning into this lights out shooter is just as annoying.

This board does this with every player, and then wonders "why we aren't making the tournament, the guys we have are so good!"

 

[richard levy]

Would love to be wrong. But the relentless positivity on a kid coming from Siena turning into this lights out shooter is just as annoying.

This board does this with every player, and then wonders "why we aren't making the tournament, the guys we have are so good!"

that is the nature of this board, as the comments pile up, they take on a momentum of their own, until almost everyone is on the same page, creating an alternate reality. Always fun for me to watch the over the top optimism in the beginning, with the dog pile negativity at the end

 

[Orangezoo]

that is the nature of this board, as the comments pile up, they take on a momentum of their own, until almost everyone is on the same page, creating an alternate reality. Always fun for me to watch the over the top optimism in the beginning, with the dog pile negativity at the end

Neutrality has become too positive in recent years though too. The fact neutrality is annoying.. is annoying.

 

[Orangezoo]

Would love to be wrong. But the relentless positivity on a kid coming from Siena turning into this lights out shooter is just as annoying.

This board does this with every player, and then wonders "why we aren't making the tournament, the guys we have are so good!"

Yeah.. but we all know this is pass/fail now.

There are plenty of examples of player growth , including shooting as I posted a number of them here at cuse, so it is not unreasonable even if it’s not predictable.

End of the day - this is an all in money play now. Hire the most marketable guy you could have that isn’t costing millions in a buyout, pay up for a loaded staff of rising star assistants and go big on NIL funding.

Modest optimism is widespread… if it works out we won’t be looking back for a long time and if it doesn’t then hoops will reside in the basement with the BC’s of the country.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Would love to be wrong. But the relentless positivity on a kid coming from Siena turning into this lights out shooter is just as annoying.

This board does this with every player, and then wonders "why we aren't making the tournament, the guys we have are so good!"

You’re lumping everyone together with “board”. There’s a wide variety of opinions here. I will speak for myself that I was heavily skeptical of JJ the minute he committed here. And I myself even said it’s ok to be skeptical of Doty’s competition, but when you start posting items that are objectively false you deserve to get called out.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Oh and best of all the dude doesn't miss free throws.

We can fix that.

 

[orangefog]

We can fix that.

He probably doesn't even shift the ball over to the opposite hip before flinging the ball at the front of the rim like all the cool kids. We'll learn him.

 

[SUskibum]

John Wallace made the jump as a shooter 0 as a frosh to 42 pct as a senior.

Kris Joseph went from a 20 pct 3 pt shooter to 35pct

Wes Johnson went from 29 pct as a frosh at Iowa state to 41 pct the year he played here

Rautins went up every year from 32 pct to 40 pct

Scoop went from 27 pct to 37 pct

Elijah Hughes went from 27% at ECU to 37% here

FT went from 68% to 81%

Btw, mid 80’s FT percent is a very good sign his 3pt will grind higher

 

[Wrinkle]

More important than his percentages is the fact he gets to the line at a good rate. He's a good player

 

[chadvader]

junkyard dog, gym rat, hard worker, loves basketball, loves winning, etc

I know you are making fun of the comment but I have watched every game as I am a Siena alum. I don't think he will ever be a lights out shooter, but he is a super hard worker, and I wouldnt put anything past him.

 

[Starman]

Im

I’m trying to remember that last really good two way player for SU. It’s always seem to be either or.

I really like Edwards on both sides. But it's hard to remember if he was really that good or if he was just better than we'd had in that position for a while

 

[orangefog]

I know you are making fun of the comment but I have watched every game as I am a Siena alum. I don't think he will ever be a lights out shooter, but he is a super hard worker, and I wouldnt put anything past him.

I like how he keeps the ball high and his form is simple. A lot less to go wrong. I wouldn't be shocked to see another incremental improvement to his percentage. So much of it comes down to the quality of shots any shooter gets. Hopefully we have an offense that opens up good shots for our shooters.

 

[Orangezoo]

I like how he keeps the ball high and his form is simple. A lot less to go wrong. I wouldn't be shocked to see another incremental improvement to his percentage. So much of it comes down to the quality of shots any shooter gets. Hopefully we have an offense that opens up good shots for our shooters.

With the staff looking like a home run so far, if the roster is built right he shouldn’t be taking more 3s than he did last year. Maybe 3 a game on average vs 4.

 

[TheCusian]

Would love to be wrong. But the relentless positivity on a kid coming from Siena turning into this lights out shooter is just as annoying.

This board does this with every player, and then wonders "why we aren't making the tournament, the guys we have are so good!"

I can respect that. I’m a relentlessly half full guy and l’m keenly aware of how that plays sometimes. Reality is good.

Obviously if no one had takes and waited to see this place would be a ghost town…

 

[sweetpea]

junkyard dog, gym rat, hard worker, loves basketball, loves winning, etc

shoveling off the playground, dad works in the mill, having to fight his siblings for table scraps, has the keys to the gym, etc

 

[qdawgg]

junkyard dog, gym rat, hard worker, loves basketball, loves winning, etc

It’s the white collar version of a great job interview….. “I’m a hard worker”. Yup, no crap, that’s just the basic requirement but doesn’t prove anything.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Do you understand Doty was the star of the team getting guarded by the best defenders each night snd game planned to stop? Please bro gtfoh. Go watch Providence with that scum bh.

You've very quickly revealed what you about, sports fan.

 

[Orangezoo]

Do you understand Doty was the star of the team getting guarded by the best defenders each night snd game planned to stop? Please bro gtfoh. Go watch Providence with that scum bh.

BeALOTBETTeR

 

[TheCusian]

Ok, let’s do this. We have incompatible ideas floating around the board. Doty seams to be the guy sitting at the center of it.

Idea 1: all D1 athletes are hard workers and grind - that’s how they got there

Idea 2: there are guys who are harder workers than others and continue to improve by grinding out in the gym - they may even put forth more effort, want to win more than other D1 players

You cannot want to move on from Donnie because he’s not maxing out on his talent, doesn’t want to get rebounds or play inside, lazy etc and still subscribe to idea 1.

You cannot dismiss idea 2 because you are adamant that idea 1 is right and that talent is the only metric

From where I sit, you have talent/athleticism + hard work + intangibles that just about are all present in all d1 athletes and pros. Some may have a “10” in talent/athleticism and a “2” in hard work and a “0.6” in intangibles. Some have a 3/7/9 (this is a GMac comp).

All players we talk about should be talked about this way. If Doty is a 3/7/9 … I think you can make the case that we haven’t had players like that in a hot minute.

And of course we want 10/10/10 guys