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As I wrote in a previous thread, demoting McDonald (essentially firing him) mid-season was, IMHO, a major screw up; a really poor decision that we are now starting to see the fallout from with this recent de-commit and other de-commits potentially pending. But to compound that decision with what I believe to be the premature appointment of Lester as permanent OC is equally baffling to me.

Look, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program, which is why Shafer brought in the very best recruiter he could get his hands on (presumably) when he hired McD, a nationally respected and ranked recruiter. But acquiring that kind of talent doesn't come easily or cheaply, so in order to lure him away from the SEC --not Directional Midwest U or Div III Podunk State -- Shafer had to make it worth his while by offering him the OC slot, $$$ and a fancy title (Associate Head Coach). That, my friends, is what's called making an investment and a commitment. It's a football marriage.

And just like in real life, if you have huge wedding, go off on an expensive honeymoon to an exotic locale, and get pregnant only to turn around and file for divorce 18 months later, then that initial decision to get married was obviously a poor one and not very well thought out.

Or for a football analogy: it's like trading up to the 1st round to draft a QB who, despite having a so-so 1st year as a rookie starter, still managed to lead your team to the playoffs. However, in his second season, after a rocky start (which wasn't entirely his fault), you not only decide to bench him, but you flat-out cut him?!

I think most would agree that that would be the height of incompetence and organizational mismanagement. Yet that's essentially what Shafer did by demoting McD (and ensuring his departure). And you can bet that there will be some in the coaching community who will see it as Shafer throwing GM under the bus and view SS unfavorably b/c of it. Good luck luring another accomplished recruiter from a P5 school w/ McD's resume up to Syracuse.

Back to the marriage analogy, Kim Kardashian can get a quicky divorce from one millionaire, then turn around & marry another one b/c she's one of the sexiest women on the planet. What exactly is Shafer going use this time to lure the "next" McD? $$$? His "fair" treatment of coaches? His fiery demeanor? What? And now the fallout is beginning on the recruiting trail with this recent de-commit, hopefully NOT the first of many.

And for what? The offense still stinks and statistically, Lester has been worse than GM. Yet for some reason, he's already been anointed OC for the future. Why? Based on what? Wouldn't the more prudent thing be to just let the season play out, then afterwards, survey the results and the broader landscape -- meaning seeing what other potential OC candidates become available -- and THEN make a final decision on the OC?

Look, I'm not calling for Shafer to be fired b/c frankly, I really want him to succeed. The last thing this program needs is to hit the re-set button again and start all over. But IMO, dumping McD so abruptly was a short-sighted, reactionary, poorly thought out move; this is chess, not checkers. And now rushing to name Lester OC when he's been just as mediocre as the guy he replaced, is an equally curious choice, especially when there was absolutely no need to make it now. It's that kind of decision making that really only raises more questions for me about Shafer's ability to lead this program.

But in the end, I guess we just gotta hope he gets it all right. An upset over Duke this weekend would be a great start!
 
Or for a football analogy: it's like trading up to the 1st round to draft a QB who, despite having a so-so 1st year as a rookie starter, still managed to lead your team to the playoffs. However, in his second season, after a rocky start (which wasn't entirely his fault), you not only decide to bench him, but you flat-out cut him?!

Isn't that more or less what the Broncos did with Tim Tebow? They ended up with Peyton Manning.
 
You wrote: "Good luck luring another accomplished recruiter from a P5 school w/ McD's resume up to Syracuse."

Later, you wrote: "Look, I'm not calling for Shafer to be fired b/c frankly, I really want him to succeed."

I detect a bit of tension between those statements.
 
I think most would agree that that would be the height of incompetence and organizational mismanagement. Yet that's essentially what Shafer did by demoting McD (and ensuring his departure).
Actually, no. If you've made your decision, you cut your losses now, not after they have a chance to get worse. And please don't throw "What's our record after they demoted McDonald?" at us. Hindsight - you can't play that game.
 
As I wrote in a previous thread, demoting McDonald (essentially firing him) mid-season was, IMHO, a major screw up; a really poor decision that we are now starting to see the fallout from with this recent de-commit and other de-commits potentially pending. But to compound that decision with what I believe to be the premature appointment of Lester as permanent OC is equally baffling to me.

Look, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program, which is why Shafer brought in the very best recruiter he could get his hands on (presumably) when he hired McD, a nationally respected and ranked recruiter. But acquiring that kind of talent doesn't come easily or cheaply, so in order to lure him away from the SEC --not Directional Midwest U or Div III Podunk State -- Shafer had to make it worth his while by offering him the OC slot, $$$ and a fancy title (Associate Head Coach). That, my friends, is what's called making an investment and a commitment. It's a football marriage.

And just like in real life, if you have huge wedding, go off on an expensive honeymoon to an exotic locale, and get pregnant only to turn around and file for divorce 18 months later, then that initial decision to get married was obviously a poor one and not very well thought out.

Or for a football analogy: it's like trading up to the 1st round to draft a QB who, despite having a so-so 1st year as a rookie starter, still managed to lead your team to the playoffs. However, in his second season, after a rocky start (which wasn't entirely his fault), you not only decide to bench him, but you flat-out cut him?!

I think most would agree that that would be the height of incompetence and organizational mismanagement. Yet that's essentially what Shafer did by demoting McD (and ensuring his departure). And you can bet that there will be some in the coaching community who will see it as Shafer throwing GM under the bus and view SS unfavorably b/c of it. Good luck luring another accomplished recruiter from a P5 school w/ McD's resume up to Syracuse.

Back to the marriage analogy, Kim Kardashian can get a quicky divorce from one millionaire, then turn around & marry another one b/c she's one of the s e xiest women on the planet. What exactly is Shafer going use this time to lure the "next" McD? $$$? His "fair" treatment of coaches? His fiery demeanor? What? And now the fallout is beginning on the recruiting trail with this recent de-commit, hopefully NOT the first of many.

And for what? The offense still stinks and statistically, Lester has been worse than GM. Yet for some reason, he's already been anointed OC for the future. Why? Based on what? Wouldn't the more prudent thing be to just let the season play out, then afterwards, survey the results and the broader landscape -- meaning seeing what other potential OC candidates become available -- and THEN make a final decision on the OC?

Look, I'm not calling for Shafer to be fired b/c frankly, I really want him to succeed. The last thing this program needs is to hit the re-set button again and start all over. But IMO, dumping McD so abruptly was a short-sighted, reactionary, poorly thought out move; this is chess, not checkers. And now rushing to name Lester OC when he's been just as mediocre as the guy he replaced, is an equally curious choice, especially when there was absolutely no need to make it now. It's that kind of decision making that really only raises more questions for me about Shafer's ability to lead this program.

But in the end, I guess we just gotta hope he gets it all right. An upset over Duke this weekend would be a great start!


Horrible analogy - a marriage is a union between two people in love. Div1 Football is a business. If you hire a new VP of Operations and after 18 months, you see no improvement, no real plan for the future, and no results then you fire his ass and get a new damn VP before your business goes bankrupt. A couple in a marriage has options, like counseling. If you'd like I can call around and see if anyone's willing to see SS and McD but i'm thinking this wasn't about McD putting the toilet seat down.

As for your comments on Lester, you have no idea what he is or isn't capable of because this offense is absolutely decimated. You don't go into an ACC game with a 3rd string QB, 3 backup OL, 2 backup WRs, etc and expect to win. You can hope for it, you can scream and yell all you want to, but at the end of the day, it's not logical to expect to win a game like that.
 
You wrote: "Good luck luring another accomplished recruiter from a P5 school w/ McD's resume up to Syracuse."

Later, you wrote: "Look, I'm not calling for Shafer to be fired b/c frankly, I really want him to succeed."

I detect a bit of tension between those statements.
No tension at all. I WANT Shafer to succeed b/c I don't wanna blow this thing up and start from scratch. That would be a devastating set back for the program as it would mean we've gone backwards again.

But wanting Shafer to succeed and having growing doubts about his ability to achieve that success are two different things. I think Shafer really fumbled on the McD decision(s) and I believe that those mistakes WILL have negative ramifications, including impairing his ability to attract another hot-shot recruiter like GM.
 
As I wrote in a previous thread, demoting McDonald (essentially firing him) mid-season was, IMHO, a major screw up; a really poor decision that we are now starting to see the fallout from with this recent de-commit and other de-commits potentially pending. But to compound that decision with what I believe to be the premature appointment of Lester as permanent OC is equally baffling to me.

There's more to the story than just the teams' performance between the lines.

Are you familiar with what happened to Pariani and Spence?
 
As I wrote in a previous thread, demoting McDonald (essentially firing him) mid-season was, IMHO, a major screw up; a really poor decision that we are now starting to see the fallout from with this recent de-commit and other de-commits potentially pending. But to compound that decision with what I believe to be the premature appointment of Lester as permanent OC is equally baffling to me.

Look, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program, which is why Shafer brought in the very best recruiter he could get his hands on (presumably) when he hired McD, a nationally respected and ranked recruiter. But acquiring that kind of talent doesn't come easily or cheaply, so in order to lure him away from the SEC --not Directional Midwest U or Div III Podunk State -- Shafer had to make it worth his while by offering him the OC slot, $$$ and a fancy title (Associate Head Coach). That, my friends, is what's called making an investment and a commitment. It's a football marriage.

And just like in real life, if you have huge wedding, go off on an expensive honeymoon to an exotic locale, and get pregnant only to turn around and file for divorce 18 months later, then that initial decision to get married was obviously a poor one and not very well thought out.

Or for a football analogy: it's like trading up to the 1st round to draft a QB who, despite having a so-so 1st year as a rookie starter, still managed to lead your team to the playoffs. However, in his second season, after a rocky start (which wasn't entirely his fault), you not only decide to bench him, but you flat-out cut him?!

I think most would agree that that would be the height of incompetence and organizational mismanagement. Yet that's essentially what Shafer did by demoting McD (and ensuring his departure). And you can bet that there will be some in the coaching community who will see it as Shafer throwing GM under the bus and view SS unfavorably b/c of it. Good luck luring another accomplished recruiter from a P5 school w/ McD's resume up to Syracuse.

Back to the marriage analogy, Kim Kardashian can get a quicky divorce from one millionaire, then turn around & marry another one b/c she's one of the s e xiest women on the planet. What exactly is Shafer going use this time to lure the "next" McD? $$$? His "fair" treatment of coaches? His fiery demeanor? What? And now the fallout is beginning on the recruiting trail with this recent de-commit, hopefully NOT the first of many.

And for what? The offense still stinks and statistically, Lester has been worse than GM. Yet for some reason, he's already been anointed OC for the future. Why? Based on what? Wouldn't the more prudent thing be to just let the season play out, then afterwards, survey the results and the broader landscape -- meaning seeing what other potential OC candidates become available -- and THEN make a final decision on the OC?

Look, I'm not calling for Shafer to be fired b/c frankly, I really want him to succeed. The last thing this program needs is to hit the re-set button again and start all over. But IMO, dumping McD so abruptly was a short-sighted, reactionary, poorly thought out move; this is chess, not checkers. And now rushing to name Lester OC when he's been just as mediocre as the guy he replaced, is an equally curious choice, especially when there was absolutely no need to make it now. It's that kind of decision making that really only raises more questions for me about Shafer's ability to lead this program.

But in the end, I guess we just gotta hope he gets it all right. An upset over Duke this weekend would be a great start!
i commented on the decommits as soon as this happened. its just beginning as mcdonald will not be back
As I wrote in a previous thread, demoting McDonald (essentially firing him) mid-season was, IMHO, a major screw up; a really poor decision that we are now starting to see the fallout from with this recent de-commit and other de-commits potentially pending. But to compound that decision with what I believe to be the premature appointment of Lester as permanent OC is equally baffling to me.

Look, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program, which is why Shafer brought in the very best recruiter he could get his hands on (presumably) when he hired McD, a nationally respected and ranked recruiter. But acquiring that kind of talent doesn't come easily or cheaply, so in order to lure him away from the SEC --not Directional Midwest U or Div III Podunk State -- Shafer had to make it worth his while by offering him the OC slot, $$$ and a fancy title (Associate Head Coach). That, my friends, is what's called making an investment and a commitment. It's a football marriage.

And just like in real life, if you have huge wedding, go off on an expensive honeymoon to an exotic locale, and get pregnant only to turn around and file for divorce 18 months later, then that initial decision to get married was obviously a poor one and not very well thought out.

Or for a football analogy: it's like trading up to the 1st round to draft a QB who, despite having a so-so 1st year as a rookie starter, still managed to lead your team to the playoffs. However, in his second season, after a rocky start (which wasn't entirely his fault), you not only decide to bench him, but you flat-out cut him?!

I think most would agree that that would be the height of incompetence and organizational mismanagement. Yet that's essentially what Shafer did by demoting McD (and ensuring his departure). And you can bet that there will be some in the coaching community who will see it as Shafer throwing GM under the bus and view SS unfavorably b/c of it. Good luck luring another accomplished recruiter from a P5 school w/ McD's resume up to Syracuse.

Back to the marriage analogy, Kim Kardashian can get a quicky divorce from one millionaire, then turn around & marry another one b/c she's one of the s e xiest women on the planet. What exactly is Shafer going use this time to lure the "next" McD? $$$? His "fair" treatment of coaches? His fiery demeanor? What? And now the fallout is beginning on the recruiting trail with this recent de-commit, hopefully NOT the first of many.

And for what? The offense still stinks and statistically, Lester has been worse than GM. Yet for some reason, he's already been anointed OC for the future. Why? Based on what? Wouldn't the more prudent thing be to just let the season play out, then afterwards, survey the results and the broader landscape -- meaning seeing what other potential OC candidates become available -- and THEN make a final decision on the OC?

Look, I'm not calling for Shafer to be fired b/c frankly, I really want him to succeed. The last thing this program needs is to hit the re-set button again and start all over. But IMO, dumping McD so abruptly was a short-sighted, reactionary, poorly thought out move; this is chess, not checkers. And now rushing to name Lester OC when he's been just as mediocre as the guy he replaced, is an equally curious choice, especially when there was absolutely no need to make it now. It's that kind of decision making that really only raises more questions for me about Shafer's ability to lead this program.

But in the end, I guess we just gotta hope he gets it all right. An upset over Duke this weekend would be a great start!
i said the same thing about de-committs when it happened . they needed to handle it differently as i said in a post at that time. i really do not know what to make of hcss anymore i am also confused by all the traumatic injuries that have struck us for the past several years---what up with that?? gave my tickets to my niece for the duke game as my brother is so pissed off he would not take them, and he lives in town.
 
Horrible analogy - a marriage is a union between two people in love. Div1 Football is a business. If you hire a new VP of Operations and after 18 months, you see no improvement, no real plan for the future, and no results then you fire his ass and get a new damn VP before your business goes bankrupt. A couple in a marriage has options, like counseling. If you'd like I can call around and see if anyone's willing to see SS and McD but i'm thinking this wasn't about McD putting the toilet seat down.

As for your comments on Lester, you have no idea what he is or isn't capable of because this offense is absolutely decimated. You don't go into an ACC game with a 3rd string QB, 3 backup OL, 2 backup WRs, etc and expect to win. You can hope for it, you can scream and yell all you want to, but at the end of the day, it's not logical to expect to win a game like that.
The marriage analogy wasn't meant to be so literal but if you wanna take it that way, fine, disregard it. But in referring to it, you brought up a point that I've made previously, which is that Shafer had other options than just abruptly demoting his handpicked OC/recruiting ace.

You mentioned "counseling." Why couldn't Shafer bring in a retired or available coach that he has respect for, to come in as a consultant and mentor McD? Young coaches need developing the same way that young players need to be developed and groomed. I don't remember GM being on any hot seat or on a short leash prior to the start of the season, so it just seems extremely shortsighted to make such a heavy investment into a coach and then kick him to the curb the minute some adversity hits. That's just not wise leadership, IMO.

And it's odd that you would use the injury excuse for Lester and not McD. He also had to deal w/ starters and key contributors missing time, including having his QB ejected for over half a game and playing banged up in others before eventually going down for the season.

Look, I'm not saying McD was some great offensive guru as he was in fact leading an under performing unit. But the reasons for that poor play weren't all his fault which Lester is now proving. Injuries and a lack of talent played just as much a role in McD's mediocre performance as they're now playing in Lester's mediocre performance. And I'm saying that Shafer should have recognized that and not acted so hastily in regards to GM b/c in so doing he's now lost a valuable asset (McD's recruiting prowess) that won't be easily replaced.
 
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There's more to the story than just the teams' performance between the lines.

Are you familiar with what happened to Pariani and Spence?
Yes and No. I believe I read that Spence was let go because he didn't like to recruit, that and the zillion bubble screens! LOL! Not up on what Pariani's deal was, though.
 
i said the same thing about de-committs when it happened . they needed to handle it differently as i said in a post at that time. i really do not know what to make of hcss anymore i am also confused by all the traumatic injuries that have struck us for the past several years---what up with that??
At this point, can you really have COMPLETE confidence in anything Shafer does? I'm not suggesting that fans should give up on him or lose faith in him but he's certainly done a some things to raise a few eyebrows so you kinda have to at least wonder about everything at this point. Losing will do that.
 
boog7 said:
At this point, can you really have COMPLETE confidence in anything Shafer does? I'm not suggesting that fans should give up on him or lose faith in him but he's certainly done a some things to raise a few eyebrows so you kinda have to at least wonder about everything at this point. Losing will do that.

Not his defenses. He's been pretty consistent as a DC and now HC in fielding top 50 defenses year after year.
 
Not his defenses. He's been pretty consistent as a DC and now HC in fielding top 50 defenses year after year.
Agreed, fair point. He does do defense well. It's his forte. Just hope he masters the other aspects of being a HC.
 
Horrible analogy - a marriage is a union between two people in love. Div1 Football is a business. If you hire a new VP of Operations and after 18 months, you see no improvement, no real plan for the future, and no results then you fire his ass and get a new damn VP before your business goes bankrupt. A couple in a marriage has options, like counseling. If you'd like I can call around and see if anyone's willing to see SS and McD but i'm thinking this wasn't about McD putting the toilet seat down.

As for your comments on Lester, you have no idea what he is or isn't capable of because this offense is absolutely decimated. You don't go into an ACC game with a 3rd string QB, 3 backup OL, 2 backup WRs, etc and expect to win. You can hope for it, you can scream and yell all you want to, but at the end of the day, it's not logical to expect to win a game like that.
My thoughts exactly on Lester. But I do feel we should've cut our losses early on in the year with McD. No job keeps someone after being demoted. It's a pink slip. But, with the cabinet bare last year we managed a bowl and this year we are facing problems with injuries (like Maryland did last year) and we are struggling offensively bc of it.

My next statements are just general, Our defense has been stout and you can't pooh pooh on HCSS bc of the lack of offense production. I really feel that Aj will not play another down and we will see hunt back in when ready. I'm keeping the faith in this team even though our backs are against the wall. I'm not going to be apart of the "pitch fork crew." Too early for that. This reminds me of the "sac Mac" crew. But I will applaud the main poster for the thesis he wrote on this thread. Lol
G'Orange!
 
Yes and No. I believe I read that Spence was let go because he didn't like to recruit, that and the zillion bubble screens! LOL! Not up on what Pariani's deal was, though.

Spence didn't have the play calling taken away from him because he didn't like to recruit.

Take a look at the first redzone possession in the Lville game and watch Hunt begging for a play. Take a look at the redzone follies with multiple trick plays.

There's a reason why there was no rhythm and flow to the offense.
 
...Take a look at the first redzone possession in the Lville game and watch Hunt begging for a play...There's a reason why there was no rhythm and flow to the offense.
So your saying the only way to correct in-game communication problems with a young, developing coordinator is to demote him?

...Take a look at the redzone follies with multiple trick plays...
Which follies with trick plays are you referring to? The ones called by McDonald or the ones called by Lester?

And when it comes to failed execution on plays, be they trick plays or normal plays, don't the players tasked with executing said plays bare some responsibility for their failure? When Eli Manning threw 20+ INTs last year, were those all Kevin Gilbride's fault?
 
I agree announcing GM had been demoted was foolish but I believe Mcdonald is the one who went to the media with his demotion news so Shafer was forced to do that.
I don't blame McDonald for going to the news. He got a raw deal the fact he wanted to voice his displeasure I have no problem with. The entire situation was handled poorly. McDonald sucked as an OC but you can't cut bait on him a month into the season, just isn't fair
 
So your saying the only way to correct in-game communication problems with a young, developing coordinator is to demote him?


Which follies with trick plays are you referring to? The ones called by McDonald or the ones called by Lester?

And when it comes to failed execution on plays, be they trick plays or normal plays, don't the players tasked with executing said plays bare some responsibility for their failure? When Eli Manning threw 20+ INTs last year, were those all Kevin Gilbride's fault?

It wasn't a communication problem.

Removing someone mid season is a drastic radical solution. He didn't remove McDonald because he didn't like particular calls, it was because he wasn't functioning. Pressure.

Who calls two non QB passes in the redzone within a couple of plays of each other? A guy in a complete meltdown, that's who.
 
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It wasn't a communication problem. Removing someone mid season is a drastic radical solution. He didn't remove McDonald because he didn't like particular calls, it was because he wasn't functioning. Pressure. Who calls to non QB passes in the redzone within a couple of plays of each other? A guy in a complete meltdown, that's who.
Then he makes an ass of himself in the paper. Raw deal lol
 
As I wrote in a previous thread, demoting McDonald (essentially firing him) mid-season was, IMHO, a major screw up; a really poor decision that we are now starting to see the fallout from with this recent de-commit and other de-commits potentially pending. But to compound that decision with what I believe to be the premature appointment of Lester as permanent OC is equally baffling to me.

Look, recruiting is the lifeblood of any program, which is why Shafer brought in the very best recruiter he could get his hands on (presumably) when he hired McD, a nationally respected and ranked recruiter. But acquiring that kind of talent doesn't come easily or cheaply, so in order to lure him away from the SEC --not Directional Midwest U or Div III Podunk State -- Shafer had to make it worth his while by offering him the OC slot, $$$ and a fancy title (Associate Head Coach). That, my friends, is what's called making an investment and a commitment. It's a football marriage.

And just like in real life, if you have huge wedding, go off on an expensive honeymoon to an exotic locale, and get pregnant only to turn around and file for divorce 18 months later, then that initial decision to get married was obviously a poor one and not very well thought out.

Or for a football analogy: it's like trading up to the 1st round to draft a QB who, despite having a so-so 1st year as a rookie starter, still managed to lead your team to the playoffs. However, in his second season, after a rocky start (which wasn't entirely his fault), you not only decide to bench him, but you flat-out cut him?!

I think most would agree that that would be the height of incompetence and organizational mismanagement. Yet that's essentially what Shafer did by demoting McD (and ensuring his departure). And you can bet that there will be some in the coaching community who will see it as Shafer throwing GM under the bus and view SS unfavorably b/c of it. Good luck luring another accomplished recruiter from a P5 school w/ McD's resume up to Syracuse.

Back to the marriage analogy, Kim Kardashian can get a quicky divorce from one millionaire, then turn around & marry another one b/c she's one of the s e xiest women on the planet. What exactly is Shafer going use this time to lure the "next" McD? $$$? His "fair" treatment of coaches? His fiery demeanor? What? And now the fallout is beginning on the recruiting trail with this recent de-commit, hopefully NOT the first of many.

And for what? The offense still stinks and statistically, Lester has been worse than GM. Yet for some reason, he's already been anointed OC for the future. Why? Based on what? Wouldn't the more prudent thing be to just let the season play out, then afterwards, survey the results and the broader landscape -- meaning seeing what other potential OC candidates become available -- and THEN make a final decision on the OC?

Look, I'm not calling for Shafer to be fired b/c frankly, I really want him to succeed. The last thing this program needs is to hit the re-set button again and start all over. But IMO, dumping McD so abruptly was a short-sighted, reactionary, poorly thought out move; this is chess, not checkers. And now rushing to name Lester OC when he's been just as mediocre as the guy he replaced, is an equally curious choice, especially when there was absolutely no need to make it now. It's that kind of decision making that really only raises more questions for me about Shafer's ability to lead this program.

But in the end, I guess we just gotta hope he gets it all right. An upset over Duke this weekend would be a great start!

Shafer coached with McDonald at Western Michigan in 2005-06. Shafer was the DC, and McDonald was the OC. When Shafer offered McDonald the SU job in 2013 McDonald was a WR coach at Arkansas working for Bret Bielema. Working in the SEC is a huge deal, but being a WR coach for Bielema can be a lonely job. More importantly, Shafer and McDonald are friends. Shafer is a relationship guy. His relationships may or may not run smoothly, I have no idea, but Shafer definitely values his friendships. Shafer's players love him too.

Many of us remember the Syracuse.com piece 15 months ago where we learned that while Shafer was a graduate assistant at Indiana he told Bill Mallory that rather than enroll in sports-administration as Mallory suggested that he would rather study the inner city. Shafer ended up spending a summer in the inner city and then he spent some time on an Indian reservation. Here is the article:

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2013/08/syracuse_coach_scott_shafer_ho_1.html

It's certainly reasonable to question the demotion and the timing of the demotion, but I feel really uncomfortable speculating that Shafer was unfair or that he was thoughtless when making the decision. It appears that he tried to make this decision without going public. Last season Lester was assigned to the booth during games to assist McDonald when the offense struggled. I have no idea if the intent was for this situation to play out something like that, but it's possible. Shafer decided to keep private his rationale for the decision. That can mean a lot of different things, but it doesn't automatically mean that Shafer had no reasons or that his reasons are somehow flawed.

McDonald was understandably upset, and he made public inflammatory comments. I think Shafer as a friend understood and refused to fire him in that situation at least in part because they are friends and Shafer was willing to forgive. Sure, maybe Shafer was thinking about recruiting or any number of other possible variables relating to protecting the team, but he most certainly was thinking about his friend as well. That's who he has been all along.

Shafer sees something in Lester. He pulled the plug on McDonald. I think T-Hunt going down had to be a factor because Lester was a successful QB as a player. Lester has also had success as a coach. We've seen even in the SEC where coaches come out of no where from high school programs and end up wildly successful. I am in no way suggesting that Lester has that kind of ability as an OC, but I refuse to rule out the possibility that he can be a successful OC at SU because Lester was given this job in a horrible situation. I'm a big Marrone and Hackett fan, but I really doubt that they would be able to do any better under these circumstances especially being promoted with less than a week before FSU etc.

I have no idea how this will play out for Shafer and his staff, but I really hope he succeeds at SU.
 
No tension at all. I WANT Shafer to succeed b/c I don't wanna blow this thing up and start from scratch. That would be a devastating set back for the program as it would mean we've gone backwards again.

But wanting Shafer to succeed and having growing doubts about his ability to achieve that success are two different things. I think Shafer really fumbled on the McD decision(s) and I believe that those mistakes WILL have negative ramifications, including impairing his ability to attract another hot-shot recruiter like GM.
If javadoc days there is tension then there is tension - after all, he's a doc!
 
...It's certainly reasonable to question the demotion and the timing of the demotion, but I feel really uncomfortable speculating that Shafer was unfair or that he was thoughtless when making the decision. It appears that he tried to make this decision without going public...
I've seen this mentioned a few times and I just don't buy it b/c it suggests that Shafer was trying to somehow "sneak" McD's demotion by, as if no one would notice GM suddenly standing on the sidelines while Lester assumes his place up in the booth. No, I give Shafer more credit than that. Rightly or wrongly, he made his decision and that was that.

...Shafer sees something in Lester...We've seen even in the SEC where coaches come out of no where from high school programs and end up wildly successful. I am in no way suggesting that Lester has that kind of ability as an OC, but I refuse to rule out the possibility that he can be a successful OC at SU because Lester was given this job in a horrible situation... I have no idea how this will play out for Shafer and his staff, but I really hope he succeeds at SU.
I'm with you there. While I dislike Shafer's handling of the whole McD situation, as a fan of the team, I still very much want SS to succeed because I think his failure would just be utterly disastrous for a program already struggling to find relevancy on the CFB landscape. I really do hope Lester has what it takes to turn this inept offense around. He better b/c Scott Shafer has now basically staked his career on it.
 

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