So Edsall fired OC Gary Crowton

[PhatOrange]

to bring in Locksley. I'd be all for Crowton coming here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ball-program/2011/12/14/gIQAQgsluO_story.html

 

[orangenauburn]

tell him to bring Coxson with him

 

[Whitey23]

We lost coaches on the wrong side of the ball for that.

 

[javadoc]

We lost coaches on the wrong side of the ball for that.

We lost 2 defensive position coaches who were doubled up. As of now we have a DL coach, and one guy who has done both LB and DB, and our DC handles some DB. So we only need one defensive coach, really.

 

[PhatOrange]

tell him to bring Coxson with him

Coxson; two schools in two years? no thanks

 

[Millhouse]

to bring in Locksley. I'd be all for Crowton coming here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ball-program/2011/12/14/gIQAQgsluO_story.html

he's lost some of his luster but i still think "this guy had a guy get 400 yards receiving at la tech vs nebraska

http://smartfootball.com/gameplanning/crowton-to-maryland-what-happened

he's a guy with a million formations which appeals to marrone and not so much to me. but given that marrone's going to go that route no matter what, he's a better choice than Hackett.. at least crowton is a college guy (for the most part)

he's probably too out there for marrone but maybe they'd compliment each other nicely. marrone could stand to be a little more reckless.

i'd rather get a guy that some fan base would miss. i don't think LSU MD or the Bears lose sleep over him leaving.

but he's still better than hackett.

 

[PhatOrange]

he's lost some of his luster but i still think "this guy had a guy get 400 yards receiving at la tech vs nebraska

http://smartfootball.com/gameplanning/crowton-to-maryland-what-happened

he's a guy with a million formations which appeals to marrone and not so much to me. but given that marrone's going to go that route no matter what, he's a better choice than Hackett.. at least crowton is a college guy (for the most part)

he's probably too out there for marrone but maybe they'd compliment each other nicely. marrone could stand to be a little more reckless.

i'd rather get a guy that some fan base would miss. i don't think LSU MD or the Bears lose sleep over him leaving.

but he's still better than hackett.

I'd be curious to see where his MD offensive numbers compare to Syracuse this year. Would we have won a couple of more games based on #'s or points?

I love it though, I realize he's damaged goods at this point, but he's still the same coach. Again, is it talent or coaching cus those guys who put up those crazy numbers are pros.

Irony in the linked article. The writer references that Auburn's Gus Malzahn has ten base plays - four runs and six passes — so maybe less is more etc. But the article is written on the heals of Auburn and Cam Newton going undefeated. This year they finished 7-5. In their 5 losses they averaged 13.8 ppg. Wonder what the writer would think ofMalzahn and the 10 base plays this year.

 

[Aweart23]

I'd be curious to see where his MD offensive numbers compare to Syracuse this year. Would we have won a couple of more games based on #'s or points?

I love it though, I realize he's damaged goods at this point, but he's still the same coach. Again, is it talent or coaching cus those guys who put up those crazy numbers are pros.

Irony in the linked article. The writer references that Auburn's Gus Malzahn has ten base plays - four runs and six passes — so maybe less is more etc. But the article is written on the heals of Auburn and Cam Newton going undefeated. This year they finished 7-5. In their 5 losses they averaged 13.8 ppg. Wonder what the writer would think ofMalzahn and the 10 base plays this year.

PPG- Maryland#89- 23.1- Syracuse #84- 24.2
VS AQ- Maryland#55-24.2- Syracuse#73-22.1

Tot Off- Maryland#68-379.7-Syracuse#90- 348.2
VS AQ-Maryland #38-398.1- Syracuse##71-344.7

Don't know how many more games we would have won, maybe you can argue Uconn, maybe not..

As for Malzahn, he's the perfect example of how you need playmakers on offense to be successful, its not just the system...

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I'd be all for Crowton as OC. I had seasons one of the years he was at BYU - before John Beck was all that good. They weren't good teams but they were fun to watch, lots of big plays and energy. Plus, I think Crowton would understand how to take advantage of the Dome.

 

[OrangePA]

PPG- Maryland#89- 23.1- Syracuse #84- 24.2
VS AQ- Maryland#55-24.2- Syracuse#73-22.1

Tot Off- Maryland#68-379.7-Syracuse#90- 348.2
VS AQ-Maryland #38-398.1- Syracuse##71-344.7

Don't know how many more games we would have won, maybe you can argue Uconn, maybe not..

As for Malzahn, he's the perfect example of how you need playmakers on offense to be successful, its not just the system...

UConn?

Our defense allowed the Huskies to score every time they possessed the ball in the second half.

UConn was getting seven, eight and nine yards a clip, on the ground, on first down.

We didn't lose at UConn because of the offense - we lost because of the lack of defense in the second half.

 

[orangenauburn]

UConn?

Our defense allowed the Huskies to score every time they possessed the ball in the second half.

UConn was getting seven, eight and nine yards a clip, on the ground, on first down.

We didn't lose at UConn because of the offense - we lost because of the lack of defense in the second half.

and a lack of OFFENSE in the first half -- one who could not capitalize on 5 turnovers

 

[OrangePA]

I'd be all for Crowton as OC. I had seasons one of the years he was at BYU - before John Beck was all that good. They weren't good teams but they were fun to watch, lots of big plays and energy. Plus, I think Crowton would understand how to take advantage of the Dome.

Unfortunately the Dome can't run, pass or catch.

 

[Chip]

UConn?

Our defense allowed the Huskies to score every time they possessed the ball in the second half.

UConn was getting seven, eight and nine yards a clip, on the ground, on first down.

We didn't lose at UConn because of the offense - we lost because of the lack of defense in the second half.

What if we had more offense in the first half? 60 minute game.

 

[Aweart23]

UConn?

Our defense allowed the Huskies to score every time they possessed the ball in the second half.

UConn was getting seven, eight and nine yards a clip, on the ground, on first down.

We didn't lose at UConn because of the offense - we lost because of the lack of defense in the second half.

Sorry Orange PA ...I wasn't so clear..the only argument I could make about games we might have won would be because of the first half at Uconn...Maybe if we score on one or two of those turnovers maybe maybe maybe we win..But you are right, we did not stop them in the second half at all...

The offense lost the first half, the defense lost the second half

 

[OrangePA]

and a lack of OFFENSE in the first half -- one who could not capitalize on 5 turnovers

Well, the game wasn't over at halftime.

And, the offense moved the ball up and down the field and took the lead I believe on two occassions in the second half.

Had the defense made one stop in the second half, the Orange would have won the game.

The offense this year was not dynamic, of course, but it was good enough to win the game at UConn.

The offense had nearly 400 yards total offense - Nassib was I think 25 for 40. Not great but solid.

UConn had I think four turnovers and we had I think three or four.

The defense gave up over 150 yards to the RB, McCombs, and allowed the running QB, McCummings to rush for nearly 100 yards if I recall.

The defense ultimately lost that game.

 

[OrangePA]

What if we had more offense in the first half? 60 minute game.

Yes, but, again, the offense took the lead and had the game in the second half.

Yes, I think we missed a FG in the second half, but the problem was that we simply could not stop UConn in the second half - a single time.

 

[orangenauburn]

the offense should have put the game away in the first half

the defense should have made a stop to win the game

the offense turned the ball over late in the game when it was tied

the defense promptly gave up the game winning score

the offense could not respond

 

[Aweart23]

Take that a step further...there was no way Uconn was going to be able to pass the ball on us with that crappy QB they had. If we score a couple of times in the first half and put them in a position where they have to pass the ball to come back...whole different game...no way they win

 

[Chip]

the offense should have put the game away in the first half

the defense should have made a stop to win the game

the offense turned the ball over late in the game when it was tied

the defense promptly gave up the game winning score

the offense could not respond

Throw in the special teams coverage units were awful and this sums it up. My point wasn't to defend the D, OPA is right, 2nd half UConn had 3 possessions, 3 TDs. That's about as bad as you can do.

But the offense wasn't very good either, and were handed the ball after 5 turnovers, which is typically a momentum changer.

All 3 units had their failures in that game. If you want to argue that the D is the most glaring because of that 2nd half, fine. But that shouldn't let the offense off the hook either.

 

[OrangeMaNPD]

Well, the game wasn't over at halftime.

And, the offense moved the ball up and down the field and took the lead I believe on two occassions in the second half.

Had the defense made one stop in the second half, the Orange would have won the game.

The offense this year was not dynamic, of course, but it was good enough to win the game at UConn.

The offense had nearly 400 yards total offense - Nassib was I think 25 for 40. Not great but solid.

UConn had I think four turnovers and we had I think three or four.

The defense gave up over 150 yards to the RB, McCombs, and allowed the running QB, McCummings to rush for nearly 100 yards if I recall.

The defense ultimately lost that game.

What if the offense had gotten points off of ONE of the FIVE turnovers? We would have won the game.

 

[Cadillac]

I thought the playcalling at UConn was crispy - remember that tricky Provo TD? Or Lemon on the post? He scored a TD once and we went right back to it - almost scored again!

We had a number of deadly drops - I remember at least 3 - Stevens dropped a 25+ yard gain, possible TD. Nassib missed chances too, blocks were missed, but those drops.

D was awful - Vaughan almost made a play on the sack/fumble that would have sealed it, but how are you letting a QB run for eight yards every first down?

We sucked so bad defending the read option, UConn added it to the playbook just for us! If everyone on our schedule did that, guess what, we're 1-11.

If you can get an LB coach that can teach these guys how to stop a running quarterback/read option, I won't miss Conley at all. Not sorry.

 

[Millhouse]

I'd be curious to see where his MD offensive numbers compare to Syracuse this year. Would we have won a couple of more games based on #'s or points?

I love it though, I realize he's damaged goods at this point, but he's still the same coach. Again, is it talent or coaching cus those guys who put up those crazy numbers are pros.

Irony in the linked article. The writer references that Auburn's Gus Malzahn has ten base plays - four runs and six passes — so maybe less is more etc. But the article is written on the heals of Auburn and Cam Newton going undefeated. This year they finished 7-5. In their 5 losses they averaged 13.8 ppg. Wonder what the writer would think ofMalzahn and the 10 base plays this year.

playing Clemson, Alabama LSU South Carolina, Georgia will do that to a team!

but i get what you're saying. that's why i'm not as onboard with building your offense mobile QB as everyone else is. i think it's way easier to find guys to stand there and throw it around year in and year out. (which is why it drives me so crazy that we have such bums at qb every frickin year)

 

[Bayside44]

Well, the game wasn't over at halftime.

And, the offense moved the ball up and down the field and took the lead I believe on two occassions in the second half.

Had the defense made one stop in the second half, the Orange would have won the game.

The offense this year was not dynamic, of course, but it was good enough to win the game at UConn.

The offense had nearly 400 yards total offense - Nassib was I think 25 for 40. Not great but solid.

UConn had I think four turnovers and we had I think three or four.

The defense gave up over 150 yards to the RB, McCombs, and allowed the running QB, McCummings to rush for nearly 100 yards if I recall.

The defense ultimately lost that game.

I agree with your overall point on defense but if our offense turned in points in the first half UConn could not have afforded to go ground game like that in the second half.

 

[Millhouse]

Guys, look at the yards at the end of the year. give it enough games and it's going to work out where the record is what you'd expect it to be for the given yards for and against. when both sides of the ball aren't good, you're going to have individual games or halves where you can point to one side or the other.

but look at the totals. the defense was eh kinda bad. the offense was really bad. and relative to the offense, the defense was better.

if the offense can't score, you could always say well the defense didn't get any safeties and blame them

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Guys, look at the yards at the end of the year. give it enough games and it's going to work out where the record is what you'd expect it to be for the given yards for and against. when both sides of the ball aren't good, you're going to have individual games or halves where you can point to one side or the other.

but look at the totals. the defense was eh kinda bad. the offense was really bad. and relative to the offense, the defense was better.

if the offense can't score, you could always say well the defense didn't get any safeties and blame them

Preach.