so sick of the kentucky slobber fest

[Eric15]

Outside uk, fla, vandy, tenn. What does the sec bring?

Replace Tenn with Miss State. MSU is a solid club and was ranked 18th before they lost today.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Outside uk, fla, vandy, tenn. What does the sec bring?

I sort of agree but Vandy would school Cincinnati...like 8 or 9 times out of 10.

 

[Upstate]

Watching UK vs. the zone is like watching Jonah Hill try to get laid. It's just hilarious how difficult it is for them to function all of a sudden.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

You can't put the SEC and Pac-12 in the same stratosphere as each other. The SEC is light years better.

It was a ranking of the power conferences. SEC is 5, Pac 12 is 6.

Take away UK, and the SEC starts to approach the Pac 12, imo. UK doesn't have to play itself, so it's a plausible hypothesis.

The SEC is full of a bunch of sludge. The SEC East, where UK gets the benefit of home and homes, is particularly bad.

 

[jdubs30]

Watching UK vs. the zone is like watching Jonah Hill try to get laid. It's just hilarious how difficult it is for them to function all of a sudden.

That made me a little giddy. Vandy's zone is nothing compared to ours and UK really issues from deep as well. I think we'd have problems on the boards vs. them though, it'd be a really interesting game.

 

[Rocco]

I hate Cal and pals so much. So much. He has a grease trail following him along the side line.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Replace Tenn with Miss State. MSU is a solid club and was ranked 18th before they lost today.

Nice Omar avatar, btw!

 

[triplethrea]

We all sound like a bunch of jealous girls. Let's just win our games and let the chips fall. If we're as good as we say then we don't have much to worry about do we?

 

[Eric15]

It was a ranking of the power conferences. SEC is 5, Pac 12 is 6.

Take away UK, and the SEC starts to approach the Pac 12, imo. UK doesn't have to play itself, so it's a plausible hypothesis.

The SEC is full of a bunch of sludge. The SEC East, where UK gets the benefit of home and homes, is particularly bad.

In terms of overall conference RPI ratings, the SEC is 4th and the Pac-12 is 10th. The Pac-12 (.5267) is closer to the Sun Belt Conference (.4832) than they are the SEC (.5732).

I personally think that Florida is a legitimate Final Four contender.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

In terms of overall conference RPI ratings, the SEC is 4th and the Pac-12 is 10th. The Pac-12 (.5267) is closer to the Sun Belt Conference (.4832) than they are the SEC (.5732).

I personally think that Florida is a legitimate Final Four contender.

The biggest problem with the Pac12 is they have 3 sub 200 RPI teams. USC, ASU and Utah are really, really bad. They drag the whole league down. They also don't have the benefit of having an elite team like UK to pull the league up.

I'm not saying that the Pac12 is as good as the SEC. I'm just saying that if you take UK out of the SEC and put them in the Pac12, then their conference rating would be a lot closer.

 

[dasher]

we would win more than 2 or 3 times out of 10. maybe as many as 5. They don't shoot the ball well. yes they would kill us on the boards. That is why they win 5 games. We haven't lost with fab. They did get beat by I.U..

 

[PoppyHart]

The biggest problem with the Pac12 is they have 3 sub 200 RPI teams. USC, ASU and Utah are really, really bad. They drag the whole league down. They also don't have the benefit of having an elite team like UK to pull the league up.

I'm not saying that the Pac12 is as good as the SEC. I'm just saying that if you take UK out of the SEC and put them in the Pac12, then their conference rating would be a lot closer.

The SEC and BE numbers are very close. So, if you take Cuse out of the BE and put them in the PAC-12, wouldn't it have the same effect?

 

[orangenauburn]

Ville marq gtown nd better than SEC teams

 

[PoppyHart]

Ville marq gtown nd better than SEC teams

Is ND better than Georgia?
Is Marq better than Vandy? Better than LSU?
Is Louisville better than UK?
Would Gtown beat Bama on a neutral court?

 

[orangenauburn]

Is ND better than Georgia?
Is Marq better than Vandy? Better than LSU?
Is Louisville better than UK?
Would Gtown beat Bama on a neutral court?

Yes

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Is ND better than Georgia?
Is Marq better than Vandy? Better than LSU?
Is Louisville better than UK?
Would Gtown beat Bama on a neutral court?

Well, the Big East did go 8-4 against the SEC in the SEC/BE challenge. That included St John's somehow being matched up with UK. I still wish we got to play them instead.

 

[skurey]

Is ND better than Georgia?
Is Marq better than Vandy? Better than LSU?
Is Louisville better than UK?
Would Gtown beat Bama on a neutral court?

GTown won at Bama unless this post is all sarcasm

 

[PoppyHart]

GTown won at Bama unless this post is all sarcasm

Good point. My bad.

The overall message is the same: There is not a very large gap betw. the two conferences (in men's college basketball).

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Good point. My bad.

The overall message is the same: There is not a very large gap betw. the two conferences (in men's college basketball).

Nobody is claiming the Big East is great this year. It is clearly down from years past. That being said, the SEC isn't that good, and hasn't been very good in a long time. Take away the UK team from two years ago, and the UF teams from 06 and 07, and the conference has been really, really bad. Top to bottom, the BE is still better, imo.

UF is a decent, but not great team this year. Their inability to win on the road is what really keeps them from rising to the ranks of elite teams.

Vandy is a good team, but they are wildly inconsistent this year. Most of that has to do with their Center's injuries.

 

[SarasotaPaul]

Eh, Cal is shady but the guy can coach. He gets those young guys to execute and play hard. Talent is one thing but he gets them to play as a team and maximizes each player's potential, imo.

Yeah, I noticed how he got Jones so psyched today. Good grief..the guy cheats, resulting in recruits and his quick exit before sanctions and so many want to crown him king.

 

[PoppyHart]

Nobody is claiming the Big East is great this year. It is clearly down from years past. That being said, the SEC isn't that good, and hasn't been very good in a long time. Take away the UK team from two years ago, and the UF teams from 06 and 07, and the conference has been really, really bad. Top to bottom, the BE is still better, imo.

UF is a decent, but not great team this year. Their inability to win on the road is what really keeps them from rising to the ranks of elite teams.

Vandy is a good team, but they are wildly inconsistent this year. Most of that has to do with their Center's injuries.

As of 2009, the trailing 10-year Conference RPI for the SEC was 2nd, ahead of the Big East. I hardly think that counts as not being "very good in a long time".

http://collegehoopsnet.com/ncaa-basketball-conference-ranking-200809-139106

 

[Madbiker]

It's hard to tell how good they really are as the SEC is so weak this year. Vandy sucks and Florida is just a 3-pt shooting fest so they are inconsistent. The rest of the league is weak. Cal's dribble-drive offense always has trouble with a good zone defense. I think we'd give them problems but we'd need to shoot it well from the outside.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

As of 2009, the trailing 10-year Conference RPI for the SEC was 2nd, ahead of the Big East. I hardly think that counts as not being "very good in a long time".

http://collegehoopsnet.com/ncaa-basketball-conference-ranking-200809-139106

Find some better data. Cutting out the last 4 years doesn't help your argument.

FWIW, I was curious about the results so I performed the analysis myself.

Here's the average conference RPI ranking over the past 9 years (I couldn't find the RPI before 2003-04)

1) ACC: 2.55
2) BE: 2.88
3) Big 12: 3.44
4) Big Ten: 3.55
5) SEC: 3.88
6) Pac 10/12: 6.33

If you only include the last 5 years, to obtain a more recent ranking of performance that isn't skewed by data from 8 or 9 years ago, it looks like this:

1) B12: 2.4
2) BE: 2.8
3) ACC: 3.2
3) Big Ten: 3.2
5) SEC: 4.6
6) Pac 10/12: 6.8

Thanks for playing, though.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Yeah, I noticed how he got Jones so psyched today. Good grief..the guy cheats, resulting in recruits and his quick exit before sanctions and so many want to crown him king.

I said he can *coach*, motivate, etc. I also said he is shady. I'm not crowning the guy at all but it's obvious he can really coach and any basketball mind will tell you the same.

 

[SoBeCuse]

It's hard to tell how good they really are as the SEC is so weak this year. Vandy sucks and Florida is just a 3-pt shooting fest so they are inconsistent. The rest of the league is weak. Cal's dribble-drive offense always has trouble with a good zone defense. I think we'd give them problems but we'd need to shoot it well from the outside.

Vandy sucks? Umm, no. They did go into Milwaukee and beat the piss out of Marquette. As mentioned earlier, some of their struggles were the result of Ezeli missing games.