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Some thoughts on the game...

Seldom post...but here's the 3 keys:

1) RAK has a good game...I think I saw him going to the hoop more against Marq than ever before. If he scores 6, grabs 6+ rebs and creates 2 fouls, we win
2) No foul trouble for the guards...but if so, consider playing CJ/JS at the top of the zone with Grant at the bottom. Guards need to rebound.
3) Decent shooting from 15 ft and closer...about 50%...with overall total above 60
 
Michigan has the #1 offensive efficiency in the country. They are a great offense. They play at a below average pace, so they don't score as many points as you would expect, but they are really efficient. Kansas and Florida are top 5 defenses and they had no trouble scoring on them.

That doesn't mean I expect them to put a huge number on us, but they aredefinitely a great offense.
Plus I think there is some merit to Beilein's 0-9 record vs JAB. He has yet to find a way to defeat the 2-3 zone and although this UM team is probably his most talented team to face Syracuse, our 2-3 zone is really humming. I'm not saying his team will struggle like Indiana, but I think they will have some problems getting open baskets. I fully expect them to hit some deep threes early, but as we have seen in the last 20 or so years, the percentages eventually work in our favor.

Michigan opened up as a 2.5 pt favorite and it went down to two. I say take the Cuse with the points and an outright 70-65 win.[/quote]

There could be something to it. Like I said in an earlier post, I'd rather our JB be 9-0 vs their JB than the other way around. But this is also pretty clearly the most talented team Beilen has ever had to face SU, and unless I'm forgetting some of his teams, it's not even close. Take NBAdraft.net for what it's worth, but they have Michigan with 4 first round picks in their starting lineup. Far cry from the days of Pittsnoggle and Mike Gansey.

I do agree that I think Michigan will do better than Indiana, because I think Beilen is probably a better X and O coach than Crean, and Michigan has better personnel to attack the zone. But I still think our defense will do some solid work on them. I expect this to be a a close one.[/quote]

Good post. I think it comes down to the simply obvious; can they execute their gameplan vs the zone. As teams are finding out it is easier said than done. Teams then start panicking and making bad decisions/passes. Michigan is young and this could be a big factor. However, I was impressed how they handled VCU which suggests that they have poise for a young bunch. Still, they have not seen our brand of D.

Michigan is playing better on D as of late. It will be more difficult to make 1-on-1 moves vs them it was vs IU. They have the athleticism to match us and I do agree with some of the draft sites on where four of their guys in particular are projected. Stauskas has had a nice first season too and is their version of at least a sophomore Rautins.

They are a very good team hitting their stride like we are. I really think it will come down to some subtle execution and strategy issues with them. If they forget about CJ's left hand or go into meltdown mode in the heat of the moment vs the zone then it bodes well for us. Somehow getting McGary in foul trouble maybe in pick' n roll situations could be big. Rak/Baye will have to be physical and sharp. McGary is a bull and he has REALLY nice touch around the basket. Make it difficult for him. I think it will be a low scoring game and I don't see us scoring 65 or 70 on them. Gonna be a close one all 2H imo with a narrow 'Cuse win, I hope!
 
Key to the game is rebounding which is what won our last game. No second shots and we win going away
We were out rebounded last game. What won us the game was JB pushing Rak and Keita up close on Davante Gardner and not letting him shoot from the foul line.
 
This is obvious, but there is a difference between fans being confident and the team. I don't think that our players are underestimating them at all. I think that Michigan is going to be in for a helluva shock when they have to execute against our defense. To me, it has less to do with the matchups [which I agree, some of which seem to be in our favor on paper], and more to do with them having a team of largely inexperienced players [three frosh starters, a soph, and a junior]. Will be interesting to see how they execute.

Bring it!!!


Yeah, this is pretty much what I wrote about a little bit ago. Can a young team execute their gameplan in the heat of the moment. I think both teams have a couple of nice matchups and the athleticism issue is a wash. They are one of the few teams even with us or perhaps have an edge on us. It will be all about them executing on offense and can we make enough good plays on offense. Probably the obvious spin.
 
McGary is a little terrifying to me; getting him in foul trouble would be huge. He was great against Withey, who is one of the best defensive bigs in the country.
 
For me the game is less about how Michigan executes on offense, and more how we execute on offense. I'm not particularly worried about our defense, though the defensive glass needs to be protected. They will hit some shots and get some points, but overall I believe our defense will hold pretty firm.

So it all boils down to how well we execute offensively. If we are hitting some perimeter shots I think we will be in good shape. Jake, it's funny you landed on 6-7 three pointers, because that's the exact number my dad (a former college coach) texted me that he thinks we need to hit in order to win.
 
McGary is a little terrifying to me; getting him in foul trouble would be huge. He was great against Withey, who is one of the best defensive bigs in the country.

Yeah, he's great at reverse layups and has nice touch. He likes being a bull and going right into the chest of taller defenders. I worry about him the most.
 
just curious why everyone thinks Stauskas is so unathletic? Because he's a white guy?

Stauskas can put the ball on the floor. He's at least as good a slasher as some of our second-tier 2 guards along the way have been. But defense is not his strong suit.
 
By the way, absolutely all of the talk leading up to the game has been about how WE will stop THEM.

I don't know if anyone has noticed, but they are 35th in adjusted defense according to KenPom. We aren't GREAT offensively, but we have guys who can score and are 21st in adjusted offense.

(On the flip side, we are 5th in adjusted D and they are 1st in adjusted O)

This game is not going to be determined solely by whether or not they can score on us, despite what the pundits seem to believe. They need to stop our guys from getting buckets, too.
 
True. But i think Stauskas fighting through screens and keeping up with JS will be a problem (at least I hope). He is not nearly as quick or athletic as J South. We need to exploit this match-up.

Stauskas won't exactly be Craig Forth chasing around JS, and he's no Oladipo on defense. That being said, he's not a complete mismatch on defense vs JS, since JS has no real post game and is average (at best?) taking it to the hoop.
 
Stauskas won't exactly be Craig Forth chasing around JS, and he's no Oladipo on defense. That being said, he's not a complete mismatch on defense vs JS, since JS has no real post game and is average (at best?) taking it to the hoop.
I think calling James "average" at taking it to the hoop is like saying Mark Schwartz is an "average" journalist.
 
Stauskas guards Southerland I'm sure. Since James is not a threat to put the ball on the floor and create, I don't think it will be a problem for Stauskas.

Fair vs Robinson is the matchup we need to win
Southerland did a great job and was unheralded for his movement off the ball when being guarded by Oladipo. It was the most active I've ever seen him play on the offensive end (and defensive end) and I think really set the tempo for the SU. The stats didn't show it but I thought it was the best game he's played this year. Additionally when Oladipo switched to MCW late in the game he wasn't able to have the same effectiveness which may have been due to Southerland's activeness.

If Southerland is active (offensively and defensively) and has a good shot selection then we will win. Boom.
 
I think we can get McGary out of the game. MCW and Brandon just need to take the ball to the basket, exactly like they did against Indiana. McGary, like Zeller struggles guarding the pick and roll. Check out some of Mcgary's games this year. He had 4 fouls in 8 minutes against Indiana on March 10th. Hes had multiple games this year where he has played under 20 minutes and had four fouls. Take it to him early and get him out. Jordan Morgan is not nearly the offensive threat Mcgary is. If Mcgary is out of the game we only need to worry about guarding the three point line.

I love this matchup for us. I think Boeheim outcoaches Beilein, and I really think Brandon or James are due to blow up. CJ has the opportunity to take Glenn Robinson to school. Hardaway is their best defender, and he can't guard everyone. MCW has shown it doesn't really matter who guards him anyway. He still gets to the basket. The best way to beat a good offensive team is to make them work on defense.
 
I envision that this game is going to go pretty much the same as it did for Texas and their arrogant fanbase back in 2003.

You fools won't even know what hit you until it's over!


Let's Go Orange!!!

Amen my brother.
 
Brandon's jumpshot may suck at times, but he actually has a higher two point percentage than MCW or CJ.
 
I appreciate the (over)confidence, but I have a feeling SU fans in this thread are severely underestimating Michigan.

They have four projected first-rounders for a reason. They rarely ever turn the ball over. Their confidence is sky-high right now. Great shooters. A beast underneath playing out of his mind. Great head coach. National POY at the most important position.

Michigan will score points. Despite their youth, they are incredibly efficient on O. They won't brick countless open threes like Marquette did, they won't turn the ball over very often (no matter how well SU plays D), and they will likely crash the offensive boards hard.

Bottom line...Syracuse needs Dirty and Triche to hit open shots. If they don't, then Syracuse won't win. If they do, then I like our chances. But that will be the key in the game, imo. The offense is going to have to step it up because defense alone will not get SU to the title game.
 
I appreciate the (over)confidence, but I have a feeling SU fans in this thread are severely underestimating Michigan.

They have four projected first-rounders for a reason. They rarely ever turn the ball over. Their confidence is sky-high right now. Great shooters. A beast underneath playing out of his mind. Great head coach. National POY at the most important position.

Michigan will score points. Despite their youth, they are incredibly efficient on O. They won't brick countless open threes like Marquette did, they won't turn the ball over very often (no matter how well SU plays D), and they will likely crash the offensive boards hard.

Bottom line...Syracuse needs Dirty and Triche to hit open shots. If they don't, then Syracuse won't win. If they do, then I like our chances. But that will be the key in the game, imo. The offense is going to have to step it up because defense alone will not get SU to the title game.


Or it could be like the Wisconsin NCAA tournament game last year, where we're able to score quite effectively despite not making a ton of threes. I have a feeling that our offense is going to be just fine on Saturday.


Let's Go Orange!!!
 
Being an NBA 1st round pick isn't like it was 25 years ago , most of the 1st round picks now are either out of the league or marginal players within 5 years.
 
Being an NBA 1st round pick isn't like it was 25 years ago , most of the 1st round picks now are either out of the league or marginal players within 5 years.

Then where are all the players filling out rosters coming from? The 2nd round?

This may be true but it doesn't change the fact that Michigan is extremely talented - especially on offense.
 
Being an NBA 1st round pick isn't like it was 25 years ago , most of the 1st round picks now are either out of the league or marginal players within 5 years.
Agreed. Remember, guys like Daniel Orton have been first round NBA picks in recent years.
 

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