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In terms of clarity, I thought it was the best of the year. The issue I had was that it was obnoxiously loud. The prior games were too loud and yesterday they seemed to turn it up a notch when they needed to turn it down a notch. I wish we had a subtle Bob Sheppard Giants Stadium like call and the other announcements were at a proper volume.
 
my question is still, can they adjust the sound to the input, based on the speakers or are they stuck using the same sound in every direction?
Not really. They have dozens? Of speakers. The sound will reach your ears at different times, different volumes, causing standing waves(horrible flubby bass) will be out of phase(hollowing out mids and just sounding wonky). Move 8 feet? A whole set of different problems. Repeat.

Sound proof the place? NEVER. it won't fix how the sound gets to your ear, and you'll still have the same issues(just slightly less). Bodies or sound treatment only reduce reflections. Helps a little.

The only solution I can think of, is move the speakers closer to the fans. The problem STILL exists, but if you are directly in front, the volume will be louder, and you'll hear the very real problem a little bit less. Except the guy thats midway between speakers. It'll be just as bad for him.

We need a bunch of speakers. Sound does what it does. The room is never really going to "like" it.
 
We thought it was the best sound all year.
Much of the problems that still exist are due to people shouting or screaming into the microphones. Microphones and the amplifiers they serve are meant to increase the volune on normal speech, if you shout or hold the mike too close this will only cause distortion.
 
Much of the problems that still exist are due to people shouting or screaming into the microphones. Microphones and the amplifiers they serve are meant to increase the volune on normal speech, if you shout or hold the mike too close this will only cause distortion.

Agree with that. That girl that introduced things during a timeout was annoying. She was screeching sometimes. Has nothing to do with the sound system, she was just too loud and trying too hard to be loud.
 
The band guy made my ears bleed
The band announcer needs to cut back and not shout. Also, they need to mic the band seating so that we can hear them from there.
 
Agree with that. That girl that introduced things during a timeout was annoying. She was screeching sometimes. Has nothing to do with the sound system, she was just too loud and trying too hard to be loud.
Unfortunately, when you have standing waves, the low end turns to mush. When you are out of phase , you cancel out frequencies, or reduce them drastically. (Perfect 180 degrees out = NOTHING)

A bass wave can be as long as 28 feet. As you increase increase freq to 400 HZ its 34 inches. With these longer waves, tbe opportunity for phase issues are abound. You lose the bass. You lose the mids, and what you are left with is a hollow high endy MESS. You know what it sounds like? THE DOME. Its just how sound works. Thats why everything can be a piercing high end shrieking mess.

Maybe moving the speakers, maybe notching a couple freq's help - but it all depends where you are sitting.

Here's an experiment. Turn up some music. Now go to the back wall, and progressively get your ear closer to the wall. The bass will go up by 4db. (You'll hear the reflection summed. ) You will definitely notice it. Sounds like crap there(unless you love a subwoofer too loud) Is there something wrong with your speakers? Nope. Its because you have walls. Thats how sound works. The dome has walls, and a ceiling.

With sound coming from ALL OVER in the Dome? Good freaking luck. Maybe turn off half the speakers? Might eliminate "some" phase issues, and be LOUDER in those freq's. A physicist could probably make it a little better, but all just slight compromises. DONT YOU DARE SOUND TREAT THE LOUD HOUSE.. Unless you wanna call it the pleasantly lifeless, quiet house.
 
Agree with that. That girl that introduced things during a timeout was annoying. She was screeching sometimes. Has nothing to do with the sound system, she was just too loud and trying too hard to be loud.
The worst was when the crowd was booing the Nc state flag people after a field goal and she was trying to amp up people for free t shirts. She got annoyed thinking they were booing her.

I could go without an in game host on the field. Just let someone from a booth announce most stuff if you have to. Seems to work better. We can hear what down it is.

Still blows my mind we can’t hear the intro video. I think they don’t have the sound up on that one.
 
Sound is fine in my seats, the girl mc is really bad
 
Sound is fine in my seats, the girl mc is really bad
Same.

She seems to think she needs to SHOUT into the microphone, perhaps not appreciating what the damn piece of equipment does.
 
this is like watching games on TV now where they have the sound noise so loud you cant hear the announcers speak..
 
Same.

She seems to think she needs to SHOUT into the microphone, perhaps not appreciating what the damn piece of equipment does.
And the body is going to be taken from her vocal. Same with a guy. I DO wonder if a Baritone has any better luck in the Dome. Naturally less hi freq.

I also wonder if they've bothered to try any studio type equipment on the voice mic. A compressor can give "weight" to a voice that is lacking- AND smooth any peaky high end. A limiter can keep the volume from clipping - in case someone yells into a mic. Digital clipping is HORRIBLE, where way back? Analog clipping was FINE . (Hell of a way to make a snare AWESOME.)

Dunno what they have, but with the Dome's VERY real, and VERY difficult room, ya never know. I imagine they've asked the Audio Engineers at Newhouse. If not, they shoud. Hope they asked the physics department(more importantly). There's not an easy answer. Maybe they improve it slightly.
 
And the body is going to be taken from her vocal. Same with a guy. I DO wonder if a Baritone has any better luck in the Dome. Naturally less hi freq.

I also wonder if they've bothered to try any studio type equipment on the voice mic. A compressor can give "weight" to a voice that is lacking- AND smooth any peaky high end. A limiter can keep the volume from clipping - in case someone yells into a mic. Digital clipping is HORRIBLE, where way back? Analog clipping was FINE . (Hell of a way to make a snare AWESOME.)

Dunno what they have, but with the Dome's VERY real, and VERY difficult room, ya never know. I imagine they've asked the Audio Engineers at Newhouse. If not, they shoud. Hope they asked the physics department(more importantly). There's not an easy answer. Maybe they improve it slightly.
I’m sure some physics PhD needs a dissertation topic. Maybe an honors thesis even for an undergrad.
 

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