SPD tells DA to go to hell

[CaptainSyracuse]

What SU fan wouldn't be concerned? It's worst case but it is concerning. Too many people laughing it off like anything bad is impossible. There are just too many things going on and too many moving parts/people involved to think that everything will definitely be OK.

If you haven't noticed it's human nature to joke around when you are nervous.

 

[jekelish]

Exactly, laughter is the medicine. Though actually putting that idea to practice probably leads to a lot of malpractice suits, I'd imagine.

 

[DoctorBombay]

This is not good.
The public perception will be either there WAS a cover-up, or they're trying to cover it up now.
Details don't matter at this point- most people could care less about WHY this is happening, just that it IS happening.

My feeling is Fitzpatrick is gonna push this to the nth degree, just to be in the spotlight. With national media looking on, his
pronouncements are what's keeping this case in the news.
The image of the do-gooder DA, trying to uphold the rights of victims of sexual abuse is too powerful to give up.
This is his moment, & he's going for it!:noidea:

 

[rrlbees]

This is not good.
The public perception will be either there WAS a cover-up, or they're trying to cover it up now.
Details don't matter at this point- most people could care less about WHY this is happening, just that it IS happening.

My feeling is Fitzpatrick is gonna push this to the nth degree, just to be in the spotlight. With national media looking on, his
pronouncements are what's keeping this case in the news.
The image of the do-gooder DA, trying to uphold the rights of victims of sexual abuse is too powerful to give up.
This is his moment, & he's going for it!:noidea:

Actually I think it could be the exact opposite. He may be loud with his pronouncements but he wants to "manage" the investigation which SPD would rather do on their own and then release everything. I view Fitz as a "friend".

 

[OrangeXtreme]

This is not good.

My feeling is Fitzpatrick is gonna push this to the nth degree, just to be in the spotlight. With national media looking on, his
pronouncements are what's keeping this case in the news.
The image of the do-gooder DA, trying to uphold the rights of victims of sexual abuse is too powerful to give up.
This is his moment, & he's going for it!:noidea:

I'd sure like to see those SPD notes from years ago.

How do Davis' allegations from 2002 match what he's claiming now? Did the SVU detective think Davis was credible back then?

Maybe if the DA had been involved years ago, Bernie would have been cleared long ago.

We know that SU investigated, along with the Post-Standard and ESPN. Are the responses that people gave back then legally binding?

If the DA interviewed Lang on the record in 2005 and he denied being abused, this thing would be over.

 

[Rossco123]

I don't know if there are other victims but what makes you think the SPD doesn't have others? They said they weren't going to water drop evidence. I don't think length of time is either good or bad for Bernie. It's going to be lengthy regardless of the outcome.

Certainly is going to generate a high level of posts isn't it.

 

[PoppyHart]

I can understand that. But you haven't really been part of the over the top this is all BS and these guys are just druggies looking for $$$ crowd.

I also don't see how anyone can make these lack of credibility assertions.

I personally can't find anything that appears like a crushing blow, but as they say, you can indict a ham sandwich. Doesn't mean you'll prove your case, but the effects could be just as brutal.

 

[CUSEBB1]

Hate to say it.But i think its gonna come out that Bernie is found 100% guilty (what do these guys have to gain from bringing this up for the 2nd time ,8 years later?).Jimmy will be fired for saying these guys are telling a thousand lies.We will lose all our recruits when Jimmy is fired.And the hoops team will make the football team like world beaters for the next decade or more. I hope i'm wrong,but i just don't see what these guys gain from bringing this up again.

 

[orange79]

Hate to say it.But i think its gonna come out that Bernie is found 100% guilty (what do these guys have to gain from bringing this up for the 2nd time ,8 years later?).Jimmy will be fired for saying these guys are telling a thousand lies.We will lose all our recruits when Jimmy is fired.And the hoops team will make the football team like world beaters for the next decade or more. I hope i'm wrong,but i just don't see what these guys gain from bringing this up again.

Hey there, Mr. Sunshine

 

[IthacaMatt]

I wish the chief would clear the air, and tell why?

I think one reason is that this occurred 7 years ago, and the police probably don't have any records of the earlier attempt to initiate an investigation, or they're trying to find them. I think the Syracuse Police don't want to look bad here, and are using the mayor's cover of this being an ongoing investigation to get their house in order.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Hate to say it.But i think its gonna come out that Bernie is found 100% guilty (what do these guys have to gain from bringing this up for the 2nd time ,8 years later?).Jimmy will be fired for saying these guys are telling a thousand lies.We will lose all our recruits when Jimmy is fired.And the hoops team will make the football team like world beaters for the next decade or more. I hope i'm wrong,but i just don't see what these guys gain from bringing this up again.

You can wake up now. Your bad dream is over.

 

[JD]

Hate to say it.But i think its gonna come out that Bernie is found 100% guilty (what do these guys have to gain from bringing this up for the 2nd time ,8 years later?).Jimmy will be fired for saying these guys are telling a thousand lies.We will lose all our recruits when Jimmy is fired.And the hoops team will make the football team like world beaters for the next decade or more. I hope i'm wrong,but i just don't see what these guys gain from bringing this up again.

I'm going to say the reason he brings it up again is $, because of PSU he senses an opportunity. Look at the last time he brought it up around the time the catholic church scandal. There is a pattern in his timing of making allegations.

 

[SmilinBob]

What is the correct procedure for something like this regarding the SPD and DA?

As for Boeheim being fired, I think he would be if he were involved in any type of coverup but should not be fired if he is just sticking up for a friend.

 

[nycfan]

Hate to say it.But i think its gonna come out that Bernie is found 100% guilty (what do these guys have to gain from bringing this up for the 2nd time ,8 years later?).Jimmy will be fired for saying these guys are telling a thousand lies.We will lose all our recruits when Jimmy is fired.And the hoops team will make the football team like world beaters for the next decade or more. I hope i'm wrong,but i just don't see what these guys gain from bringing this up again.

Are you always such a "negative nellie"? This is a bit extreme, don't you think? Even JB getting fired--although this is more of a gray area, there was an attorney on another thread that said in general that is not grounds for dismissal, if in fact JB really knew absolutely nothing and thus, there was zero cover-up. (having said that, I will acknowledge that I realize there is good chance it could happen). But the additional commentary in bold above is way over the top, even in the worst-case scenario.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Actually I think it could be the exact opposite. He may be loud with his pronouncements but he wants to "manage" the investigation which SPD would rather do on their own and then release everything. I view Fitz as a "friend".

Although a lot of DA's are glory hogs i agree with Bees. After the Duke Lacrosse mess you can bet that DA's will be very thourough with these investogations. They will investigate both sides of the story very thoroughly.

 

[SUOrange44]

What concerns me is the relationship between the PD and the D.A. Nothing with Bernie. I firmly believe he is 100% innocent.

I can tell you that I was told that there was significant "dissatisfaction" by the D.A's office dating back to the handcuffing of Carter and Ryan G. last year following the "snowball" incident.

From what I was told that action was in direct contrast to the advisory opinion that SPD got from the D.A.'s office as to how to handle the situation at the time.

Whether right or wrong, I am not sure if that is having any carry over at this point between the agencies. One way or the other it does not do anybody any good to do anything but comprehensively investigate these claims no matter the outcome. That goes for the alleged victims, the agencies and Bernie Fine.

SUOrange44

 

[RoysRunts]

SPD thinks their Integrity is being Impuned/ Fitzpatrick's Integrity is being impuned and the Mayor wants a 3rd Party to Investigate and Bee's comment was my thought exactly.

 

[WalnutPark]

I think one reason is that this occurred 7 years ago, and the police probably don't have any records of the earlier attempt to initiate an investigation, or they're trying to find them. I think the Syracuse Police don't want to look bad here, and are using the mayor's cover of this being an ongoing investigation to get their house in order.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I hope i'm wrong,but i just don't see what these guys gain from bringing this up again.

A book deal, and appearances on Oprah.

 

[Oakland]

Why would the Police not cooperate with the DA?

DA is a Georgetown fan

 

[armory]

I was thinking cutting and wearing My Chemical Romance shirts.

And holding boomboxes over our heads playing indie ska bands?

 

[armory]

Although a lot of DA's are glory hogs i agree with Bees. After the Duke Lacrosse mess you can bet that DA's will be very thourough with these investogations. They will investigate both sides of the story very thoroughly.

Don't make the mistake of assuming all DA's are created equal.

 

[Upstate]

DA is a Georgetown fan

DA is Keith Smart

 

[OttoMets]

Actually I think it could be the exact opposite. He may be loud with his pronouncements but he wants to "manage" the investigation which SPD would rather do on their own and then release everything. I view Fitz as a "friend".

Not just manage it, but expedite it. He's definitely a friend (to the program and to justice). He doesn't trust SPD to do a fair or thorough job, since he has seen hundreds of instances in the past two or three years in which this police chief in particular has overseen a poor investigation.

 

[AZOrange]

SPD refused to investigate in 2002 because the SofL had expired.

SU had BS&K do an independent investigation in 2005 which turned up no evidence of wrongdoing, so SU never sent a copy to the DA.

It's quite possible that Fitzy was never told of the allegations Davis made against Bernie years ago, and he got caught with his pants down (pardon the expression) when the story blew up on Thursday.

Of course, if the DA's office had been involved in 2005, Bernie would have been cleared, and this thing would have been put to rest.

Honestly I almost find it impossible to believe that Fitzpatrick had no information regarding either investigation.