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Starting Lineup

Discussion in 'Syracuse Lacrosse Board' started by Orangtiz, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. JeremyCuse

    JeremyCuse Living Legend

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    Like you my memory of Forkin is a bit hazy (understandable based on the fact its been nearly two years and he wasn't playing a lot ), but I believe he was at least being groomed to play that feeder type roll prior to his departure. Again not saying he's the second coming of Kevin Rice but I believe he put up good assist numbers last year (can't find them anywhere now of course, Nassau CC has the worst website ever) and has the ability to play that feeder type role. He was known from his highschool days as being a good passer as well and was mentioned in the article last year when he transferred to Nassau.

    Regarding the lineup of him, Solomon, and Evans, is that Evans is essentially an off ball attackmen at this point. He rarely dodges from up top or the alleys and his only real success the past few years has been the occasional move/initiation from X. As an off ball player Evans could have some success with Solomon and Forkin dodging and initiating from different spots on the field. A player like Shewell or Thorpe could be a beneficiary as well as Shewell can shoot from outside and Thorpe is probably the best finisher on the team. Desko would be wise to rotate at attack to find some combinations that work.
     
  2. Jables

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    juco website has forkin with 34 G, 28 A in 12 games
     
  3. 4evaOrange

    4evaOrange Don't change this again, or else!!!

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    has anyone mentioned the idea of having bomberry at attack if it goes south and keeping Mariano at mid? To keep the mid line really good.
     
  4. JeremyCuse

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    Nice number of assists there. Again I think it bodes well for him taking over the Feeder Attack spot.
     
  5. JeremyCuse

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    Yes, but if it got to that point the team would likely just move Mariano who is a natural attackmen and has been practicing there since he came to Syracuse along with transitioning to middie.
     
  6. 4evaOrange

    4evaOrange Don't change this again, or else!!!

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    So then assume it's attack line of Evans Soloman Mariano.

    Mid line of Salcido Lane bomberry/trimbo correct?
    Or unless someone really takes a step up I fail to see Weston or Simmons making it, dark horse or Romano there possibly.
     
  7. JeremyCuse

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    If Forkin is back on the team I don't see Mariano being moved to attack. SU has more then enough numbers there already and Mariano/Salcido are a formidable duo for any starting mid line.
     
  8. Orangtiz

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    Thats good to hear, I feel like Wisnauskas may have been more highly recruited. Have you or any others heard how he has done thus far?
     
  9. JeremyCuse

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    I believe he is a near lock to red-shirt. He didn't play in the fall scrimmages like Burt so barring major injury issues he will almost surely sit this year out. He showed the ability to be a feeding attackmen in highschool so he could definitely take over that role in the future especially with great scoring attackmen on the horizon in Cook, Berkman, Basil in 2018 and Lauder Dordevic and Seebold next year.
     
  10. MaxFischer

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    100% correct on Forkin. All we saw him do was dodge, primarily from behind the cage. He showed flashes for sure, but this notion that he is a feeder is pure conjecture and not based on anything we've seen, at all.
     
  11. JeremyCuse

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    I don't think he played enough in his one year to get any sort of picture of him. If you go by his HS stats and what he did last year at Nassau he clearly can play a feeder type role. Outside of Wisnauskas who is red-shirting he is easily the most suited for that role on this Syracuse team.
     
  12. MaxFischer

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    100% correct, which is why its odd to project him doing something we haven't seen him do at all. Also, he came in as a middie and had 20 assists his senior year (not a lot for a dominant high school player). HS and JUCO stats don't mean a lot at this level. Anything is possible I guess, but let's hold off projecting a guy who has been gone for over a year into a role that it outside what we've seen or even considered before.
     
  13. Jables

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    I remember Forkin as a left handed finisher. Put up 5 goals and 1 assist in 2015.
     
  14. W'boro'Cuse315

    W'boro'Cuse315 2nd String

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    Great overview per usual, Jeremy. I always look forward to the 1st "Starting Lineup" thread each January. Two things:

    I'm not sure if Sullivan burned his RS in the fall (that is the rule, correct?) but from different things I've read, I'd bet that he projects as a SSDM. Strong, athletic football RB that the staff loves there.

    Also, don't count out RSFrosh Andrew Helmer at either LSM or Close D depending on whether Firman switches to Close. He was widely regarded as the best Defender in NJ his senior year coming from a great Summit program.
     
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  15. OrangeXtreme

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    I don't think scrimmages count, but I'm not 100%.
     
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    orange79 Internet Sleuth Staff Member

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    Really rooting for Helmer, as my wife grew up there and we spent 20+ years there after we were married. Great town.

    I'm not 100% sure - but probably 98% sure fall ball doesn't count re: blowing your RS.
     
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  17. JeremyCuse

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    Scrimmages in the fall count for lax. If a player plays the redshirt is blown unless there is an injury at which point the school can request a medical redshirt.
     
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    You are correct about the redshirt and fall ball. If a player plays innthe fall ball scrimmages the redshirt is blown.

    Spot on about Helmer, left him off by accident. He's going to have a grrst opportunity to earn some PT. I remember him coming in highly regarded. Will be interesting to see if he stands out once camp opens up next week.
     
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    I'll take "I have no idea what I'm talking about" for $200, Alex
     
  20. JeremyCuse

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    LOL, its one of those weird rules that only applies to lax. When Extreme isnt sure you know its a tough one.