SU-FSU Thread

[Madbiker]

Excellent win! I won't comment on the last 3:30.

 

[85SUAlum]

Excellent win! I won't comment on the last 3:30.

Stall ball is the worst - I hate it

 

[Cowtown]

Excellent win! I won't comment on the last 3:30.

nasty ...

 

[DonLightfoot]

By the way, we shot over 55% and Cooney 3-11

Most of the game they were stuck to him like "glue". Because of that, I think he started forcing his shot.

 

[Cuse_1999]

Who cares ?

More important for Frank Howard to play this year and down the road years. Plus he is better.

Duh...figured he play the last few minutes with Frank when we were up 20

 

[tee1222]

<rummyrant>
Not even joking. The following hurts a man, it's that good:

</rummyrant>
Tag your songs, people!

 

[kirbivore]

Howard comes in and uffgets 2 assists. He's playing so much better than Cooney and im in the Cooney fan club

it's because Howard has a very narrow role that he's getting better at every game. Cooney has carte blanche and he sometimes overeats at the buffet

 

[tee1222]

it's because Howard has a very narrow role that he's getting better at every game. Cooney has carte blanche and he sometimes overeats at the buffet

:rolling:

 

[Jake]

Love the mocking of the Noles with the warchant.

And a chorus of "Amen". Students went old school tonight.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

man, ive never seen the team play such good crisp offense. and then we went into a form of stall ball that I've never actually seen before. We literally went into "hold the ball until the shot clock runs out" for the last five minutes.

 

[85SUAlum]

man, ive never seen the team play such good crisp offense. and then we went into a form of stall ball that I've never actually seen before. We literally went into "hold the ball until the shot clock runs out" for the last five minutes.

Yeah, that was awful. Slow things down, okay, but at least move the ball around and look for easy scoring opportunities.
Fl State players were so far out defending, there had to be an opening for a lane to the basket at some point.

 

[RF2044]

And a chorus of "Amen". Students went old school tonight.

Do we still do that at home games?

If so--phenomenal!

 

[cuseattle]

<rummyrant>
Not even joking. The following hurts a man, it's that good:

</rummyrant>
Tag your songs, people!

If my words did glow
With the cold of sunshine
And my tunes were played
On the harp unstrung

 

[tee1222]

If my words did glow
With the cold of sunshine
And my tunes were played
On the harp unstrung

Off hand, Ripple?
#ifsobam

 

[SarasotaPaul]

What stats?

Sorry I am late responding - had to watch the game a second time right after it finished - seems so long since we have looked this good.
This is from the ACC statistics web site:

STEALS STPG
1. Michael Gbinije, SYR 2.3
2. Devon Bookert, FSU 1.7
3. Trevor Cooney, SYR 1.6
4. Joel Berry II, UNC 1.6
5. Angel Rodriguez, MIA 1.5

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Sorry I am late responding - had to watch the game a second time right after it finished - seems so long since we have looked this good.
This is from the ACC statistics web site:

STEALS STPG
1. Michael Gbinije, SYR 2.3
2. Devon Bookert, FSU 1.7
3. Trevor Cooney, SYR 1.6
4. Joel Berry II, UNC 1.6
5. Angel Rodriguez, MIA 1.5

I had a feeling that was what you were referring to. I'm not sold those are the best stats to use to show defensive effectiveness. Playing the zone allows you to step into far more passing lanes since you aren't expected to be right next to your man. I don't know what would be a better one though.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I had a feeling that was what you were referring to. I'm not sold those are the best stats to use to show defensive effectiveness. Playing the zone allows you to step into far more passing lanes since you aren't expected to be right next to your man. I don't know what would be a better one though.

The advanced metrics are even better. We have five players in the top 20 of the ACC in defensive win shares, and three in the top ten. We're really good defensively. If you look how easy it was for us to get looks against some teams (Notre Dame, Duke, Wake, and now FSU), that doesn't happen for other teams against us, especially since JB has been back.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

The advanced metrics are even better. We have five players in the top 20 of the ACC in defensive win shares, and three in the top ten. We're really good defensively. If you look how easy it was for us to get looks against some teams (Notre Dame, Duke, Wake, and now FSU), that doesn't happen for other teams against us, especially since JB has been back.

Where would I find those?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Where would I find those?

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/acc/2016-stats.html

 

[CuseFaninVT]

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/acc/2016-stats.html

Thanks!

Those certainly are confusing. I'm including the other defensive category.

 

[SarasotaPaul]

I had a feeling that was what you were referring to. I'm not sold those are the best stats to use to show defensive effectiveness. Playing the zone allows you to step into far more passing lanes since you aren't expected to be right next to your man. I don't know what would be a better one though.

I just don't recall any other 2 guards at SU that were ranked that high in conference play. 1 and 3 in rankings given our sometimes struggles on the "O" end is what we have needed to win the games we are winning. Our inside "D" isn't exactly our biggest asset at this time.
Now to continue with watching last nights game for the 3rd time. Incredible starts to both halfs!!! Horrible end to the 1st half and who really cars about the end of the last half. Last night I realized that after one of the late turnovers JB actually had to turn from the floor so the players wouldn't see him grinning. I do not ever remember him finding anything to grin about with a TO. Maybe he is somewhat human.