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The more I see how JW’s “retirement” unfolded the more it reveals just how dysfunctional Kent’s leadership team and the whole university is/was.

Not totally surprising because universities are generally a groupthink mess where typical top down decision making is circumvented. Having said that two things just completely jump out at me.

Coyle definitely jumped ship because he realized that he didn’t really control areas that should have been in his control. Especially the replacement of JB. Which leads me to the second point…

The hiring of Red involved many more people than people in athletics. I think JW’s original intent was to do a full blown search, but he quickly realized that was not going to be the case. His messaging to boosters changed to support the inevitable “internal hire”. I honestly don’t think he had much decision making power here at all. But JW loves the school, loves its athletics and spent ten years trying to position it the best he could. Now he’s being forced out.

I wish Carparelli the best. It looks like the pieces are falling into place for what seems to be a series of solid decisions. But I caution that it also appears the choice of Head BB coach is being made for him…just something I’d keep an eye on..,

100%. I would add Herm into the mix of being forced out as well. He originally was only supposed to be here for 3 years. That turned into 15. He poured a lot to the university and dealt with a lot of BS behind the scenes. He could have very easily said it im out like Coyle..

One thing that does give me solace is there seems to be some familiarity with Hodgson and Carparelli.

I think Kent is a power hungry dork and I’m glad to see him leave.
 
The more I see how JW’s “retirement” unfolded the more it reveals just how dysfunctional Kent’s leadership team and the whole university is/was.

Not totally surprising because universities are generally a groupthink mess where typical top down decision making is circumvented. Having said that two things just completely jump out at me.

Coyle definitely jumped ship because he realized that he didn’t really control areas that should have been in his control. Especially the replacement of JB. Which leads me to the second point…

The hiring of Red involved many more people than people in athletics. I think JW’s original intent was to do a full blown search, but he quickly realized that was not going to be the case. His messaging to boosters changed to support the inevitable “internal hire”. I honestly don’t think he had much decision making power here at all. But JW loves the school, loves its athletics and spent ten years trying to position it the best he could. Now he’s being forced out.

I wish Carparelli the best. It looks like the pieces are falling into place for what seems to be a series of solid decisions. But I caution that it also appears the choice of Head BB coach is being made for him…just something I’d keep an eye on..,
There may not be the time to give Carparelli the time to do his own search for a new had BB coach since it's likely the decision has to be made fairly quickly to be in place when the portal opens. I'd think that he'd be consulted and informed about it during the finalization of his hiring. As long as JW has a a bit of a free hand to make an informed decision we should be ok. But in addition I'd think that Chancellor-Elect Haynie will be involved (I think he's said so) and will steer the ship in the right direction. Ultimately I think the most important bit of news is Haynie saying the the success of the Athletic Department and teams is a core element of the business plan of the university going forward. A big change from the past.
 
100%. I would add Herm into the mix of being forced out as well. He originally was only supposed to be here for 3 years. That turned into 15. He poured a lot to the university and dealt with a lot of BS behind the scenes. He could have very easily said it im out like Coyle..

One thing that does give me solace is there seems to be some familiarity with Hodgson and Carparelli.

I think Kent is a power hungry dork and I’m glad to see him leave.
I don't know that KS was power hungry but clearly mostly an academic type who wasn't experienced enough in running a business, which a university is. As dasher described to us in his posts awhile back about his attempt to get KS and AW together, it isn't clear that KS actually does anything himself. For example others screen his calls and email. As I believe llandz said awhile back after meeting with KS, he said he doesn't decide what to do, others decide that for him. Or something like that. I've been told the same thing by people I know who have had interactions with him. I have a sense that Haynie will operate very differently. As a Ph.D. and professor in entrepreneurship (sp?) I expect he won't have things decided for him but will run his own ship. He'll be making decisions a directing actions I suspect. In fact in one of his interviews he said he answers his own emails and attempts to get back to people within 24 hours. A breath of fresh air.
 
The more I see how JW’s “retirement” unfolded the more it reveals just how dysfunctional Kent’s leadership team and the whole university is/was.

Not totally surprising because universities are generally a groupthink mess where typical top down decision making is circumvented. Having said that two things just completely jump out at me.

Coyle definitely jumped ship because he realized that he didn’t really control areas that should have been in his control. Especially the replacement of JB. Which leads me to the second point…

The hiring of Red involved many more people than people in athletics. I think JW’s original intent was to do a full blown search, but he quickly realized that was not going to be the case. His messaging to boosters changed to support the inevitable “internal hire”. I honestly don’t think he had much decision making power here at all. But JW loves the school, loves its athletics and spent ten years trying to position it the best he could. Now he’s being forced out.

I wish Carparelli the best. It looks like the pieces are falling into place for what seems to be a series of solid decisions. But I caution that it also appears the choice of Head BB coach is being made for him…just something I’d keep an eye on..,
Over the coming years, I suspect people will realize Wildhack did some hard stuff that eventually played out well.

I continue to believe there was no way to ceremonially move on from JB without anointing someone from his (limited) tree. It would have been a slap to his career.

Hope it doesn’t get worse, though I d not think our next hire may have the stature of a JW. I have cautious optimism that this Chancellor will be more of a positive to deal with the internal situation.
 
I wish Carparelli the best. It looks like the pieces are falling into place for what seems to be a series of solid decisions. But I caution that it also appears the choice of Head BB coach is being made for him…just something I’d keep an eye on..,

You'd think he has to be on board with it though, otherwise why take the job. He doesn't need it, even if he may want it.

If the coach fails, it's all going to be on the AD. No matter what the real story is.

I hope the new era can remove some of the messes discussed in this thread. But they seem to cut across several administrations.
 
You'd think he has to be on board with it though, otherwise why take the job. He doesn't need it, even if he may want it.

If the coach fails, it's all going to be on the AD. No matter what the real story is.

I hope the new era can remove some of the messes discussed in this thread. But they seem to cut across several administrations.
I think he needs it. Current gig is perilous for the medium term.
 
I think he needs it. Current gig is perilous for the medium term.

Well that makes sense, bowl season has been swallowed by the playoffs.

But given his resume, I assume there are a lot of nice jobs he could land.

Would just kinda suck to get this job and have no input on one of the two most important coaching jobs. But if we hire one of the two obvious up and comers, then I guess it won't matter. If we pull another branch off the JB tree and it fails, then he's setup to be the fall guy.

I assume the subject of this thread will be asked to no longer come to work after Carparelli is hired?
 
This first paragraph is absolute money. Coyle told his employees (!?) that he was "sold a bill of goods" in his interview process. Gross was too incompetent to get a better job.

People that run down JW really would've enjoyed the extra greenspace at the athletic complex where the big shiny new facilities are.
I want wins. I want success. I don’t care about the facilities the soda machine etc. we tend to pat ourselves on the back for cap ex spending. Sports are about finding the right coaches who can win and create a culture of winning. We had that with JAB until he calcified in his 70s.

Lesser financed schools are doing better than us performance wise. It’s just a fact.
 
I want wins. I want success. I don’t care about the facilities the soda machine etc. we tend to pat ourselves on the back for cap ex spending. Sports are about finding the right coaches who can win and create a culture of winning. We had that with JAB until he calcified in his 70s.

Lesser financed schools are doing better than us performance wise. It’s just a fact.
Generally speaking I agree with you but the cap ex is needed as we were so far behind. This is where being a private school really hurts us.
 
Generally speaking I agree with you but the cap ex is needed as we were so far behind. This is where being a private school really hurts us.
We will be habitually behind forever. I’m glad they are doing it but it’s a spend. It isn’t some talent to spend money. It takes rich people to be genuflected to in order for them to spend. Let’s not self congratulate that.

I wanted talented coaches who want to succeed here. If they leave w a cabinet of successful seasons I’m ok w that too. Macpherson, Boeheim Pasqualoni were great coaches who won here. Find me those guys again who do it for a period of years.

We are stuck w red Autry who is a very bad coach and Fran who quit last year. It’s bearish
 
Well that makes sense, bowl season has been swallowed by the playoffs.

But given his resume, I assume there are a lot of nice jobs he could land.

Would just kinda suck to get this job and have no input on one of the two most important coaching jobs. But if we hire one of the two obvious up and comers, then I guess it won't matter. If we pull another branch off the JB tree and it fails, then he's setup to be the fall guy.

I assume the subject of this thread will be asked to no longer come to work after Carparelli is hired?
Or when KS leaves.
 
I don’t care that JW played his hand well.

No matter what you feel about him and he’s probably a great guy who brought c suite maturity to the dept, he’s leaving w a mess here.

I’m a Syracuse fan not a JW or infastructure fan. The university is in transition with some drama. I don’t recall Jake creating this environment and he may have been using lotus notes as opppzed to what JW brought from espn to organize things

We treated red like he’s prince Charles and his coronation and succession has to be handled w pomp. Guy has been as bad as any hc we have made fun of for decades while we were humming. I think these schools have to be ruthless about winning because it’s become imperative for the schools health to have a performing sports dept if u want students to attend and pay 90k.

We agree to disagree. My patience w Syracuse is zero. I just see bad decision making on these big tent decisions. Not sure why u would ignore an opinion that disagrees w u.
It's time to stop comparing ADs to Jake. That is ancient history at this point. He did a great job in the early days of the Big East, but the troubles with athletics started while he was in his job. Mind you, I'm not blaming him (or defending), because every era seems to carry its own unique challenges. But, the landscape changes so much more quickly now, requiring a different skill set.
 
I want wins. I want success. I don’t care about the facilities the soda machine etc. we tend to pat ourselves on the back for cap ex spending. Sports are about finding the right coaches who can win and create a culture of winning. We had that with JAB until he calcified in his 70s.

Lesser financed schools are doing better than us performance wise. It’s just a fact.

There's a simple buy in / barrier to entry with this stuff.

People don't want to acknowledge that that's fine.

This isn't a movie, the more with less thing is a general fallacy at this type of repetitive scale. First thing a coach that does that does is apply for a better funded job.

Part of JB's success was that once he got a kid in the door he had no where to go unless the kid wanted to waste a year of his life with a redshirt. So he had ample time to break em down and build them back to what he wanted. And what he had facilities wise was on par for the times.
 
I wish Carparelli the best. It looks like the pieces are falling into place for what seems to be a series of solid decisions. But I caution that it also appears the choice of Head BB coach is being made for him…just something I’d keep an eye on..,
does that mean JW is making the call?
 

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