SU NIL Budget

[Sbucketball]

We paid like $8-9m for this team I believe. Just for Red to lose to Hofstra and BC. I can’t imagine big donors are happy.

Did someone mention there may have been some big one-time donors this year so it may not be easily sustainable? I’m wondering how much baseline NIL we can promise in coaching interviews. That’s the most important thing to coaches.

We’ll pick a coach who can fundraise and bring in donors but i’m thinking he’ll want assurances we can get in this ballpark consistently.

 

[orangefog]

I like the talent on this team. The coaching is failing them.

 

[CardiacCuse]

We paid like $8-9m for this team I believe. Just for Red to lose to Hofstra and BC. I can’t imagine big donors are happy.

Did someone mention there may have been some big one-time donors this year so it may not be easily sustainable? I’m wondering how much baseline NIL we can promise in coaching interviews. That’s the most important thing to coaches.

We’ll pick a coach who can fundraise and bring in donors but i’m thinking he’ll want assurances we can get in this ballpark consistently.

8 million? wow

and these numbers will likely go up every year

thats insane

 

[Newhouser]

We overpaid. Red is horrible but the talent is overrated.

 

[Bulldog04]

The talent is there. This falls on one person

 

[elimunelson]

Is there a sense of what UConn paid for their team? Curious if we are underspending . Certainly they paid up for their hc

 

[HyattsCuse]

We overpaid. Red is horrible but the talent is overrated.

Overrated? How so?

The way I see it, we’ve shown we can play with anyone on our schedule. Even accounting for Donnie’s injury, I think a better coach would have this roster at 15-3 at worse.

 

[Cuse1055]

We paid like $8-9m for this team I believe. Just for Red to lose to Hofstra and BC. I can’t imagine big donors are happy.

Did someone mention there may have been some big one-time donors this year so it may not be easily sustainable? I’m wondering how much baseline NIL we can promise in coaching interviews. That’s the most important thing to coaches.

We’ll pick a coach who can fundraise and bring in donors but i’m thinking he’ll want assurances we can get in this ballpark consistently.

I know others don’t want to hear it but Hodgson is that guy. He’s already close with a major university donor who currently doesn’t contribute to basketball I believe.

 

[FloridaCuse]

I know others don’t want to hear it but Hodgson is that guy. He’s already close with a major university donor who currently doesn’t contribute to basketball I believe.

Bryan Hodgson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cuse1055]

As was said all of last season, Hodgson is an Oates protege’ so would be the next best thing to not getting Oates all those years ago.

 

[sufan59]

Is there a sense of what UConn paid for their team? Curious if we are underspending . Certainly they paid up for their hc

This is completely speculation, I would guess Syracuse is around 8 million and they are around 9-10 million. The biggest difference between their roster and Syracuse roster is that they have a starting caliber backup center, Syracuse has a backup center. If this Syracuse team was performing to its talent level it’s a Top 15-25 team.

 

[HyattsCuse]

As was said all of last season, Hodgson is an Oates protege’ so would be the next best thing to not getting Oates all those years ago.

I put very little credence in coaching trees. Look at Boeheim’s; I would not have been happy with really any of his protégés unless you want to include Pitino.

I like Hodgson. I’m hoping Hodgson is the equivalent to our “safety school” when applying for colleges. We can get him, but hope we reach higher.

 

[Jake]

A cautionary note. I do believe the $8-9M this year. But my understanding is this was a one time infusion driven by a specific donor. I think our annual base number is probably $2-3M less…at least.

The goal going forward is finding a guy who can coach and bring in a $ pipeline. I don’t think this is a “we just need a guy to motivate our donors” type of situation. Those donors aren’t there to motivate.

But Red is certainly a dead man walking now. I don’t think a miracle run getting into the dance saves him either. There’s enough evidence to indicate such a run would simply be talent driven, not sideline driven.

 

[Dcuse]

The talent is there. This falls on one person

In the end, the coach takes the sword. But yesterday falls on……
Nate George- 7 turnovers
Donnie Freeman- 7 turnovers.
And that cannot be disputed.

 

[Cuse1055]

A cautionary note. I do believe the $8-9M this year. But my understanding is this was a one time infusion driven by a specific donor. I think our annual base number is probably $2-3M less…at least.

The goal going forward is finding a guy who can coach and bring in a $ pipeline. I don’t think this is a “we just need a guy to motivate our donors” type of situation. Those donors aren’t there to motivate.

But Red is certainly a dead man walking now. I don’t think a miracle run getting into the dance saves him either. There’s enough evidence to indicate such a run would simply be talent driven, not sideline driven.

So you’re thinking a guy who already has connections to outside donors to bring into the program? Think Bill Murray’s son could bring Hollywood connections and donors lol

 

[Dcuse]

A cautionary note. I do believe the $8-9M this year. But my understanding is this was a one time infusion driven by a specific donor. I think our annual base number is probably $2-3M less…at least.

The goal going forward is finding a guy who can coach and bring in a $ pipeline. I don’t think this is a “we just need a guy to motivate our donors” type of situation. Those donors aren’t there to motivate.

But Red is certainly a dead man walking now. I don’t think a miracle run getting into the dance saves him either. There’s enough evidence to indicate such a run would simply be talent driven, not sideline driven.

A miracle run to get into the tournament wouldn’t save his job? I don’t know about that.

 

[sufan59]

In the end, the coach takes the sword. But yesterday falls on……
Nate George- 7 turnovers
Donnie Freeman- 7 turnovers.
And that cannot be disputed.

But you have to ask why those two had a lot of turnovers. It felt like they didn’t have a good offensive game plan and if they did they didn’t execute it. It felt like we played the exact game BC wanted to play. It was honestly the same thing against FSU on Tuesday night, but we found a way to pull away.

 

[Jake]

A miracle run to get into the tournament wouldn’t save his job? I don’t know about that.

Dino was told to make a bowl or he’s gone. He made the bowl, and he was still fired because it was evident his ceiling wasn’t high enough.

I think that correlation would hold true in this case.

 

[Bulldog04]

In the end, the coach takes the sword. But yesterday falls on……
Nate George- 7 turnovers
Donnie Freeman- 7 turnovers.
And that cannot be disputed.

I do believe NG cost them the game for sure. But even with all that. Up 5 with 1:09 to go. Good coaching doesn’t lose that game. Normal coaching doesn’t lose the game. Sure Donnie missed the free throw. Sure the BC guy made the 3. Sure NG had another turnover. But challenging that call to lose the timeout was costly

 

[HyattsCuse]

Dino was told to make a bowl or he’s gone. He made the bowl, and he was still fired because it was evident his ceiling wasn’t high enough.

I think that correlation would hold true in this case.

I thought it was winning record (7-5) or he’s gone? At least, that was the public message I remember. My memory is when we went into the last Wake Forrest game it didn’t matter if we won or lost to become bowl eligible because it would only get us to 6-6. Dino was a goner either way.

 

[Fly Rodder]

The goal going forward is finding a guy who can coach and bring in a $ pipeline

Easy peasy.

 

[Sherman20]

We paid like $8-9m for this team I believe. Just for Red to lose to Hofstra and BC. I can’t imagine big donors are happy.

Did someone mention there may have been some big one-time donors this year so it may not be easily sustainable? I’m wondering how much baseline NIL we can promise in coaching interviews. That’s the most important thing to coaches.

We’ll pick a coach who can fundraise and bring in donors but i’m thinking he’ll want assurances we can get in this ballpark consistently.

It’ll be harder to get a good coach without good NIL support. I hope this speculation about one-time donors for only this year isn’t true. I do think a new coach who knows what he’s doing can unleash a pipeline of new or lapsed big-money donors, not to mention all the smaller dollar donors who have been sitting on the sideline waiting for this program to show signs of life ever since JB decided to hold it hostage for years.

 

[Cusefan0307]

A miracle run to get into the tournament wouldn’t save his job? I don’t know about that.

No one wants to give money to a coach without a ROI. We aren’t getting that.

 

[Brooky03]

I do believe NG cost them the game for sure. But even with all that. Up 5 with 1:09 to go. Good coaching doesn’t lose that game. Normal coaching doesn’t lose the game. Sure Donnie missed the free throw. Sure the BC guy made the 3. Sure NG had another turnover. But challenging that call to lose the timeout was costly

Not having the timeout wasn’t as costly as the color commentator made it seem by harping on it over and over (to the point it was very annoying). It was a bad challenge, but a timeout with 6 seconds left wasn’t going to do a lot for us. We still had to go the full length of the court and it would be against a set defense. If we took the timeout after we crossed halfcourt, we’d have a side inbounds with a few seconds left. Not a great spot. There is a legitimate line of thought that you’re better off getting the ball up the court against a scattered defense in that situation. I’d argue our team is better setup for that than running a play against a defense that was eating our PG and star player’s lunch most of the game.

If the roles were reversed and we won a game after being down 5 with 1:09 left, I think we’d all be talking about the plays our guys made, not about how the other coach failed.

Red coached a bad game overall, imo. The late game collapse was on the players. BC made plays. Our players made zero plays. And they weren’t put in situations where they couldn’t succeed.

 

[MadNY3]

Dino was told to make a bowl or he’s gone. He made the bowl, and he was still fired because it was evident his ceiling wasn’t high enough.

I think that correlation would hold true in this case.

Think Dino had a more specific edict: seven regular season wins. As soon as that was out of reach, fired.