SU Pro Day 3/23/16

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[SUforme]

Thompson will end up on a roster but I really don't see him being being drafted higher than a 6-7 and he IMO most likely be a UDFA.

 

[OttoMets]

'Thompson said his focus on school diminished once he made his decision to turn pro — so much that his eligibility for next season would have likely been in jeopardy.

"Once I knew I was coming out, I didn't stop going to class, but I didn't go as much as I should have," he said. "I'm still in good standing to where I can come back and finish.

"I was in the same situation last year, and all I had to do was a couple extra assignments and I was eligible to play."'

Oh dear.

 

[bnoro]

'Thompson said his focus on school diminished once he made his decision to turn pro — so much that his eligibility for next season would have likely been in jeopardy.

"Once I knew I was coming out, I didn't stop going to class, but I didn't go as much as I should have," he said. "I'm still in good standing to where I can come back and finish.

"I was in the same situation last year, and all I had to do was a couple extra assignments and I was eligible to play."'

Oh dear.

Oh dear what? If you had a job offered to you in February when you were a college senior, how much effort would you have put in in the next three months? How he does in the last 3 months he's in college don't affect him at all for his future career. He doesn't even need a degree.

 

[supp]

Oh dear what? If you had a job offered to you in February when you were a college senior, how much effort would you have put in in the next three months? How he does in the last 3 months he's in college don't affect him at all for his future career. He doesn't even need a degree.

I'm not sure I'd be as confident as him that a job was lined up. Lots of things can happen, including injury, to screw things up for you. And the NFL isn't exactly know for its charity. It chews people up and spits them out. But, hey, at least he has career prospects. You see lots of regular kids do the same thing with nothing on the horizon.

 

[Cootface]

Oh dear what? If you had a job offered to you in February when you were a college senior, how much effort would you have put in in the next three months? How he does in the last 3 months he's in college don't affect him at all for his future career. He doesn't even need a degree.

I'm not sure if this is what the OP meant or not, but my concern about that quote was (paraphrasing) "I was behind but I could just do extra assignments to get eligible if I needed to." Given our probation with the NCAA, that sentence on its surface is a little troubling.

 

[OttoMets]

I'm not sure if this is what the OP meant or not, but my concern about that quote was (paraphrasing) "I was behind but I could just do extra assignments to get eligible if I needed to." Given our probation with the NCAA, that sentence on its surface is a little troubling.

Oh dear what? If you had a job offered to you in February when you were a college senior, how much effort would you have put in in the next three months? How he does in the last 3 months he's in college don't affect him at all for his future career. He doesn't even need a degree.

What Cootface said.

Also, since I have some decent values, I was happy to do my coursework during my last semester after getting a job offer. But nice try.

 

[leftytg]

I'm not sure if this is what the OP meant or not, but my concern about that quote was (paraphrasing) "I was behind but I could just do extra assignments to get eligible if I needed to." Given our probation with the NCAA, that sentence on its surface is a little troubling.

yah, it's not the slacking off in the last semester that is worrying. It's the "I was in the same situation last year and all I had to do was a couple extra assignments and I was eligible to play" part that is worrying, given the landscape. Lets just hope those extra assignments were available to all students.

 

[orangenirvana]

"We spoke about it before it even happened, like, 'Yeah, it's looking like that's what's going to happen,' " Thompson said. "So that's what kind of made up my mind right there because I knew I didn't want to come back and be coached by nobody else, especially in college."

Sounds like Thompson made a mature, rational, well-thought-out life decision. #sarcasm

Yeesh. Let's hope Thompson miraculously grows up a lot between now and when he signs somewhere as an undrafted free agent five weeks from now.

As for Trudo I'm really surprised and disappointed that he doesn't have much of a chance of getting drafted. Very intelligent kid with good character. Hopefully someone gives him a chance and he runs with it.

Definitely rooting for Hunt and hoping he finds a way to play as long as he can. But I truly think he'll make an excellent coach someday.

 

[bnoro]

"We spoke about it before it even happened, like, 'Yeah, it's looking like that's what's going to happen,' " Thompson said. "So that's what kind of made up my mind right there because I knew I didn't want to come back and be coached by nobody else, especially in college."

Sounds like Thompson made a mature, rational, well-thought-out life decision. #sarcasm

Yeesh. Let's hope Thompson miraculously grows up a lot between now and when he signs somewhere as an undrafted free agent five weeks from now.

As for Trudo I'm really surprised and disappointed that he doesn't have much of a chance of getting drafted. Very intelligent kid with good character. Hopefully someone gives him a chance and he runs with it.

Definitely rooting for Hunt and hoping he finds a way to play as long as he can. But I truly think he'll make an excellent coach someday.

Thompson has had 2 HCs since he's been on the hill and Babers would have been 3. He'd be with Babers one year and then go to the NFL with another HC. That's a lot of change and this year could have hurt his draft stock or he could have gotten injured. I'm sure it was well thought out, and I think he gets drafted towards the end of the 3rd day.

Love when people on a message board bash a kid on his personal life decisions.

 

[upperdeck]

he might also make a team and have that head coach gone in year one.. change is not that unusual

 

[orangenirvana]

Thompson has had 2 HCs since he's been on the hill and Babers would have been 3. He'd be with Babers one year and then go to the NFL with another HC. That's a lot of change and this year could have hurt his draft stock or he could have gotten injured. I'm sure it was well thought out, and I think he gets drafted towards the end of the 3rd day.

Love when people on a message board bash a kid on his personal life decisions.

At the next level he could possibly be coached by three different coaches in one single football season. Being exposed to many different systems can actually be a good thing to put on a football resume for NFL scouts.

"I knew I didn't want to come back and be coached by nobody else."

That quote doesn't sound like one from a kid who made a well-thought-out decision to me. That's my opinion. You can be noble and call it bashing or whatever you want, I couldn't possibly care less.

 

[Ish88888]

Thompson has had 2 HCs since he's been on the hill and Babers would have been 3. He'd be with Babers one year and then go to the NFL with another HC. That's a lot of change and this year could have hurt his draft stock or he could have gotten injured. I'm sure it was well thought out, and I think he gets drafted towards the end of the 3rd day.

Love when people on a message board bash a kid on his personal life decisions.

Who cares how many coaches he had? He plays defensive end! He isnt learning new systems coach to coach. The fundamentals of playing d-end are the same with every system with some different wrinkles on assignments and blitzes that are system specific. Techniques on rushing the qb are universal and fact of the matter is he was still learning and developing having only played the position for 3 years. He obviously got tired of the academics and bolted even with a 6,7 rd udfa grade and his decision will most likely be as monumentally bad as Eskridge. You cant argue he wouldn't have developed and improved his draft stock with another year. Its also obvious his decision was partly influenced by sour grapes of the staff's departure.

 

[bnoro]

Who cares how many coaches he had? He plays defensive end! He isnt learning new systems coach to coach. The fundamentals of playing d-end are the same with every system with some different wrinkles on assignments and blitzes that are system specific. Techniques on rushing the qb are universal and fact of the matter is he was still learning and developing having only played the position for 3 years. He obviously got tired of the academics and bolted even with a 6,7 rd udfa grade and his decision will most likely be as monumentally bad as Eskridge. You cant argue he wouldn't have developed and improved his draft stock with another year. Its also obvious his decision was partly influenced by sour grapes of the staff's departure.

That was what Thompson said was behind his reasoning, I don't care how many coaches he had either.

However, certain coaches might value certain traits differently and Thompson may have been underutilized under a different staff.

And I love when people say a kid made a bad decision when he'll ultimately make in training camp what most of us make in a year or two. I'm sure he'll be fine.

 

[Ish88888]

Yup, it is a bad decision, bc if you read fhe tea leaves, he is bitter about the staffs departure ( saw him after the pitt game and he was despondent, worrying about that game getting the staff fired). He also obviously has no interest in classes. So bc he is being stubborn about a new staff as a defensive end, not a skill players, and doesn't want to go to class, he will forgo another year of development and take a huge risk and HOPE to get drafted. Eskridge 2.0. Babers and staff would have loved his services.

 

[bnoro]

Yup, it is a bad decision, bc if you read fhe tea leaves, he is bitter about the staffs departure ( saw him after the pitt game and he was despondent, worrying about that game getting the staff fired). He also obviously has no interest in classes. So bc he is being stubborn about a new staff as a defensive end, not a skill players, and doesn't want to go to class, he will forgo another year of development and take a huge risk and HOPE to get drafted. Eskridge 2.0. Babers and staff would have loved his services.

If the company you worked at fired all your bosses and you had new people coming in with a new way of doing things, and you had a much higher paying option you could choose, you wouldn't leave? Not to mention you'd work there for the next year while the company wasn't super successful and then you'd be forced to move on.

If you look at it objectively and separate yourself from being a fan of the team, it actually makes a lot of sense.

 

[Ish88888]

If the company you worked at fired all your bosses and you had new people coming in with a new way of doing things, and you had a much higher paying option you could choose, you wouldn't leave? Not to mention you'd work there for the next year while the company wasn't super successful and then you'd be forced to move on.

If you look at it objectively and separate yourself from being a fan of the team, it actually makes a lot of sense.

Bad analogy, this isnt a corporation. All in all he had 70k at his disposal with education, perks, and a platform to prove his skills as a senior. Who cares who his boses were! He was guaranteed a great "job" even with the new bosses coming in. A "job " to develop and showcase his skills even more to his ultimate dream company. There is never anything wrong with staying in college and getting better. Bottom line is...he is bitter and doesn't want to open a book anymore. Plain and simple and thus he is the next Eskridge. I hope i am dead wrong bc i like the kid.

 

[bnoro]

Bad analogy, this isnt a corporation. All in all he had 70k at his disposal with education, perks, and a platform to prove his skills as a senior. Who cares who his boses were! He was guaranteed a great "job" even with the new bosses coming in. A "job " to develop and showcase his skills even more to his ultimate dream company. There is never anything wrong with staying in college and getting better. Bottom line is...he is bitter and doesn't want to open a book anymore. Plain and simple and thus he is the next Eskridge. I hope i am dead wrong bc i like the kid.

You have no idea what his financial situation is (like Eskridge), and some of these kids really need to support their family. Even 10k makes a huge difference for them. Having "$70k at his disposal" does not help him put food on the table or a roof over his family's head. Not to mention if he got hurt this year, he'd have NO money next season.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Bad analogy, this isnt a corporation. All in all he had 70k at his disposal with education, perks, and a platform to prove his skills as a senior. Who cares who his boses were! He was guaranteed a great "job" even with the new bosses coming in. A "job " to develop and showcase his skills even more to his ultimate dream company. There is never anything wrong with staying in college and getting better. Bottom line is...he is bitter and doesn't want to open a book anymore. Plain and simple and thus he is the next Eskridge. I hope i am dead wrong bc i like the kid.

Of course it's a corporation. Don't put your selfishness as a fan ahead of common sense. It's almost never better to stay in college if you are ready to make a living at your profession.

 

[Ish88888]

You have no idea what his financial situation is (like Eskridge), and some of these kids really need to support their family. Even 10k makes a huge difference for them. Having "$70k at his disposal" does not help him put food on the table or a roof over his family's head. Not to mention if he got hurt this year, he'd have NO money next season.

What? Lol. Put food on the table? Every college kid is broke. So him leaving early and most likely not getting drafted is putting food on his families table? So they all would starve if he stayed in school one more year and got national attention for FREE? he would develop and improve his draft status no doubt. Address the issues man, he is bitter about Shafer and doust being gone and hates the books= bad decision. Isn't about food on the table, lol

 

[Ish88888]

Of course it's a corporation. Don't put your selfishness as a fan ahead of common sense. It's almost never better to stay in college if you are ready to make a living at your profession.

I am not a selfish fan. I get the game and what it takes. Explain to me the negatives of him staying for another year and learning a position he has been playing for 3 years. I love the kid but him leaving is obviously a function of him being bitter about the coaching change and not wanting to hit the books anymore. If an employer told me i had a 10% chance of getting hired (thats what a 6-7 rd grade is ) or a chance to go back and get better for 12 months, hello!!??

 

[BKCuse]

My attitude has always been "I can't be mad at a kid for jumping to the pros when he thinks he can get paid" but I REALLY think Thompson should've stayed another year.

The article made it painfully clear his decision was largely based on a emotional reaction to Shafer & Daoust being let go. I admire the kid's loyalty but he left an incredible opportunity on the table.

He could have been the undisputed leader of Cuse football. It would be his team and he could've been the premiere DE in the ACC. He'd be a year stronger, faster and smarter headed into the combine with much higher projection than 7th round/ UFA and less talk about moving to TE.

Not wanting to play for anyother HC is just loyalty getting in the way since he'd be better prepared for the NFL if he learned another scheme. And my understanding is the DE in the Tampa 2 basically just needs to rush the passer.

I'll root like crazy for the kid to succeed but I think he would've increased his odds tremendously if he stayed.

 

[qdawgg]

Love when people on a message board bash a kid on his personal life decisions.

As opposed to bashing people on a message board for their personal thoughts on a public situation?