Syracuse Plays Iowa St on Wednesday 1pm

[Scooch]

They need to scrap the idea of this being a “tournament”. Everyone is there solely to get the NIL money. So just line up 3 games for each team (4 next year I assume) and call it a day. Who the hell needs to be “champion” of these made for TV tournaments?

 

[orangemass]

This seems like a nightmare.

This is L NUMBER 3

 

[Scooch]

They need to scrap the idea of this being a “tournament”. Everyone is there solely to get the NIL money. So just line up 3 games for each team (4 next year I assume) and call it a day. Who the hell needs to be “champion” of these made for TV tournaments?

I made a joke about youth hockey tournaments yesterday but it kinda applies for real now. My kid has a bunch of medals in his room from winning the Squirt Holiday Challenge Cup or some such nonsense. They barely cared at that time and certainly don’t care now. College hoops needs to evolve.

 

[MSOrange]

I made a joke about youth hockey tournaments yesterday but it kinda applies for real now. My kid has a bunch of medals in his room from winning the Squirt Holiday Challenge Cup or some such nonsense. They barely cared at that time and certainly don’t care now. College hoops needs to evolve.

 

[23Zone]

Fennell was sloppy with the ball against low major teams. I see him being a turnover machine against high major defense. He might become really good, but he's rightfully been beaten out by Zephir for spot minutes so far.

Edit : I will admit that I spent several posts complaining about Zephir beating out Fennell for minutes in the two exhibition games, but I've kind of changed my tune on this after the first four cupcake games. Maybe it will flip back during the season, as Fennell had much bigger upside... But Zephir helps us more in those limited minutes right now.

Fair...bit I still like Fennell though...and as an aside, for some reason watching a "short" guy play wearing number 55 drives me crazy and I have a hard time taking serious lol

 

[Dinkyspond]

See hopefully they are disappointed and we upset them.

or they are so ticked off they will be super motivated to crack us over the head. At any rate, it is a great opportunity for us to get a Quad1 win.

 

[dollarbill44]

Why don't we just play the whole Big 12

The last time we did that, it worked out well - but we won all of those.

 

[Eric15]

I'm fine playing Iowa State, but this "tournament" is very bizarre and confusing. I like the simple Maui-type format with 8 teams and a straight-forward bracket.

 

[MSOrange]

I'm fine playing Iowa State, but this "tournament" is very bizarre and confusing. I like the simple Maui-type format with 8 teams and a straight-forward bracket.

Agree. Do a bracket or just put teams in pods so you know who you are playing and forget an overall champion.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I'm fine playing Iowa State, but this "tournament" is very bizarre and confusing. I like the simple Maui-type format with 8 teams and a straight-forward bracket.

Think that's why they want to expand it over two weeks so you can have just a bracket style event. Then you could have a true consolation bracket the following week too. Winners go one place, losers go another.

 

[Eric15]

Think that's why they want to expand it over two weeks so you can have just a bracket style event. Then you could have a true consolation bracket the following week too. Winners go one place, losers go another.

A two week preseason holiday tourney just seems like way too much to me.

 

[richmondcuse03]

A two week preseason holiday tourney just seems like way too much to me.

Also agree. But money always wins out

 

[tbonezone]

we playing BOSS level 5 mode today

 

[FloridaCuse]

Agree. I can't imagine anyone is happy about the format of this tournament after seeing it this season. At least with a bracket, you can prepare for possibilities in advance even if you don't know which one will actually happen.

and at least you know WHEN you're playing

 

[MSOrange]

and at least you know WHEN you're playing

Yes that's another aspect that is absurd. Even the NCAA tournament isn't this haphazard.

 

[Surfan06001]

I made a joke about youth hockey tournaments yesterday but it kinda applies for real now. My kid has a bunch of medals in his room from winning the Squirt Holiday Challenge Cup or some such nonsense. They barely cared at that time and certainly don’t care now. College hoops needs to evolve.

I won’t stand idly by as you besmirch the name of the Squirt Holliday Challenge.

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[Blanko97]

Playing the number 2, 6, and 9 defenses according to kenpom. Solid

 

[Consigliere]

Following the seeding format for the third game would have led to a St. John’s - ISU rematch. Couldn’t do that but don’t understand taking the best team not in the Final Four and matching them up with the worst team not relegated to a Thursday bottom four game.
Iowa State’s issue is that the Final Four participants receive additional NIL money and using a tiebreaker of point differential to determine those teams when level of competition is significantly varied cost them that money. And did so by one point.
Plan next year is to have a bracket style tournament with 4 8-team pods. What happens beyond that largely depends on whether the NCAA approves an appeal that would allow a full 5 game schedule to count as a single MTE and not exceed the maximum number of games rule.
At this point Syracuse is contracted to play in the 2026 and 27 tournaments.

 

[Blanko97]

Also agree. But money always wins out

Looking at the crowds, I’m not sure it’s bringing all that much money locally. You could run this tournament anywhere and get the same quarter filled stadiums

 

[FloridaCuse]

 

[IraSez]

If it hasn't already been said, this schedule SUCKS!

 

[Briancuse]

I know we get paid but this is bs, 12 hours notice of you you are playing and when. Not right

 

[FloridaCuse]

Following the seeding format for the third game would have led to a St. John’s - ISU rematch. Couldn’t do that but don’t understand taking the best team not in the Final Four and matching them up with the worst team not relegated to a Thursday bottom four game.
Iowa State’s issue is that the Final Four participants receive additional NIL money and using a tiebreaker of point differential to determine those teams when level of competition is significantly varied cost them that money. And did so by one point.
Plan next year is to have a bracket style tournament with 4 8-team pods. What happens beyond that largely depends on whether the NCAA approves an appeal that would allow a full 5 game schedule to count as a single MTE and not exceed the maximum number of games rule.
At this point Syracuse is contracted to play in the 2026 and 27 tournaments.

Beyond ISU losing out being in the top 4 by 1 point, it was due to a late game garbage basket by St. John's. I also read that ISU at the end of one of their games (maybe Creighton) just held the ball rather than scoring another basket which would have put them in the top 4. You have to coach these games differently and get every point you can.

 

[Iowa044]

Beyond ISU losing out being in the top 4 by 1 point, it was due to a late game garbage basket by St. John's. I also read that ISU at the end of one of their games (maybe Creighton) just held the ball rather than scoring another basket which would have put them in the top 4. You have to coach these games differently and get every point you can.

TJ Otz was an assistant to Coach McDermott at Creighton so he would never do that (loyalty screwed them unfortunately).

I will say this, after facing these 3 defenses Coach Red will have plenty of film to try to refine our offense. Simply put the ball doesn’t swing side to side nearly enough. He has out in some Euro motion but it’s not ran nearly enough nor with extreme focus on actually swinging the rock or quick swing/swing passes to get the defense shifted to open up driving lanes (since we can’t seem to shoot ).