Syracuse was, is, and always will be...
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No thanks. At least, not in our current state. As much as I love football much more than basketball, this isn't the best time to be advertising how we're a football school. We're definitely in a state of improvement, I'll give you that.
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Someone needs to re-write the fight song then.
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Boeheim said that beause he went to SU when it really was a football school.
But he was just being polite to the incoming coach. SU is now a basketball and lacrosse school. Football plays second or even third fiddle ... at least among the alumni.
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Lacrosse has its faithful following, but they only come out to the tune of 5-6 thousand a game. And they don't donate big bucks for capital improvements, either.
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The fight song, 44, the Carrier Dome, the Saltine Warrior, our greatest traditions.
Any alumni that disagree are shortsighted. We are a football school.
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People say this, but I've never seen it that way.
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Whatever. You seem like you are either trying to convince yourself or just start and argument.
The fight song was written in a different era. The Dome was a fortunate accident due more to the vagaries of NYS Government spending than anything else. Absent that stroke of luck we'd still be playing in Archbold.
I was an undergrad at the tail end of the first glory days of SU football ... so I really get it. In those days SU basketball was roughly equivalent to St Bonaventure's programs and Niagara's.
Today SU Basketball puts 750K buts in seats (30 games x 25K). Football best case puts 280K (7 games x 40K ---- and that's generous). Yet SU is a football school because we used to have the Saltine Warrior as a mascot?
I wish what you are saying were true. But it isn't.
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That's because you are not old enough. I attended from 67 - 71. In that time, I went to exactly 1 basketball game. Just wasn't the thing to do.
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That was then and this is now.
SU sold 750,000 tickets to SU home basketball games in the Dome again this year. That's THREE times as many as they sold to SU football games.
The era of football is pretty much over at Syracuse.
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How does the average ticket price compare between basketball and football? How about the portion of TV revenue attributable to football vs. that attributable to basketball?
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There is zero logic to your argument, are you sure you went to SU? I agree that SU has become a basketball school over the past decade, but that only because of a national championship while football was in the gutter. You cannot replace the other 50 plus years of football owning the school...who did SU sell those 750k tickets to? I bet they were mostly season tickets, and people that went multiple times without season tickets, same thing as with football. You cannot compare 30 games to 7 I'm sorry, but you make a foolish argument. Here's the counter: basketball was a top 3 program all year, and how many sellouts were there? (ones that amounted to 30k plus) The answer is twice, once against UCONN and once against UL. Football had four games with 40k plus in attendance: Wake, Rutgirls, USF, and WVU. All of the games were above 35k, which makes 6 to basketballs 2. The team has been in the gutters forever and many alums have turned their back on football. Most people that go to basketball games are not die hards in the way football has diehards; most in fact are just casual fans that want to see some great bball teams plays. So to dismiss SU as a basketball school is foolish, especially when SU sells out 80 plus percent of the seats nearly every game after a decade of irrelevance.
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19 home games x 23,617 avg = 448,723 total basketball attendance.
Football averaged 40,509 per game.
Football averaged 40,509 per game.
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I didn't even think about that one...:bat:
In a way any big time school playing football is a football school. NCAA head, Mark Emmert (btw, SU for grad school) recently said that when he was the president of UWashington he used to tell people that if they liked rowing they should buy football tickets & if they liked soccer they should buy football tickets & if they liked [insert sport here] they should buy football tickets.
The fact that SU basketball draws big crowds to the Dome makes this an interesting argument. Of course, the only reason there is a Dome for the basketball team to play in is because of the football team.
The fact that SU basketball draws big crowds to the Dome makes this an interesting argument. Of course, the only reason there is a Dome for the basketball team to play in is because of the football team.
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This isnt 1959 anymore.
Not even close. 5th most wins all time. Year after year competing for a national title. Hell the Dome is even known more as basketball arena than a football stadium.
Love the football program and will support it till the day I die but we are a basketball school. If they could rewite the fight song to make it more hoops oriented they would.
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I prefer to SU to be the best football/basketball/lacrosse school out there. BTW, how many schools have won national championships in all three sports?
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Well, there never has been a national championship for football. Basketball and Lacrosse:
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in my time of caring about SU ( the 70's on) football has, for the most, part stunk. It is a bridge from summer to basketball season. That is all. If SU doesn't raise sufficient capital to compete, it will be Duke or worse. The age of small private schools not named USC or ND competing regularly are just about over.
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In the very early 70's I was a big time basketball fan, liked the football much to the chagrin of Joe and Shirley Szombathy as they gave my dad all kinds of cool football stuff for me which I just didn't get into and I had one basketball poster from the 74/75 season that I hung up. As I've aged a bit, I love football and enjoy hoop but football is where my heart is.
In the very early 70's I was a big time basketball fan, liked the football much to the chagrin of Joe and Shirley Szombathy as they gave my dad all kinds of cool football stuff for me which I just didn't get into and I had one basketball poster from the 74/75 season that I hung up. As I've aged a bit, I love football and enjoy hoop but football is where my heart is.
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