Temple ranked #22

[SUFan44]

Our offensive line is protecting for a Fr QB that moves in an instant. They are plugging different lanes as they are in a new system. The Sr.'s the third system in their career. for starters. Plus I will say the Sr. offensive line that Shafer had nothing to do with recruiting has about lived up to their ability. Nick Robinson? Love the guy, but hes maxed out.

Edit. I will also say that when the QB makes the throing play that's called he is averaging a very high number of YPC and also the offense as a total is actually doing not bad in YPP per Millhouse research.

Give me a break. We can't run the ball. With a veteran offensive line that was probably (without looking it up) more highly regarded coming out of high school than any of the Temple o-linemen.

 

[HeaterCuse22]

Give me a break. We can't run the ball. With a veteran offensive line that was probably (without looking it up) more highly regarded coming out of high school than any of the Temple o-linemen.

You keep saying rated. Makes no sense. Ill let someone else explain that. I mean is a "5*" obvious. Maybe but the gap between the rest is smaller. Again, we aren't really running the ball at all how can you say we don't run it well and if we do its the line's fault and not what happens between our Fr. QB and Fr. RB

 

[TheCusian]

I wanted to see if their were any advanced stats on line performance. There is.

But sadly we can only compare last year to this year. Really wish we had years of data.

Here's an explanation of what they are comparing:

Run-blocking stats

• Adjusted Line Yards: One of only two opponent-adjusted numbers on the page, this aligns with the ALY figure FO tracks for the NFL and is presented on a scale in which 100.0 is perfectly average, above 100 is good, below 100 is bad.
• Standard Downs Line Yards per Carry: The raw, unadjusted per-carry line yardage for a team on standard downs (first down, second-and-7 or fewer, third-and-4 or fewer, fourth-and-4 or fewer).
• Passing Downs Line Yards per Carry: The same unadjusted averages for rushing on passing downs.
• Opportunity Rate: The percentage of carries (when five yards are available) that gain at least five yards, i.e. the percentage of carries in which the line does its job, so to speak.
• Power Success Rate: This is the same as on the pro side -- percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown.
• Stuff Rate: Same as STUFFED on the pro side -- percentage of carries by running backs that are stopped at or before the line of scrimmage.

Pass-blocking stats

• Adjusted Sack Rate: An opponent-adjusted version of a team's sack rate -- sacks divided by (sacks plus passes), presented on a scale in which 100 is perfectly average, above 100 is good, below 100 is bad.
• Standard Downs Sack Rate: Unadjusted sack rate for standard downs pass attempts.
• Passing Downs Sack Rate: Unadjusted sack rate for passing downs pass attempts.

And here's 2014/2015:

Kind of a mixed bag. Better in some ways, worse in others.

Note: we are running better on passing downs, that may be Dungey. Opportunity rate is way up and fit with the idea that when a play works it usually goes for a nice gain. (Seems like we get a lot of -2 or +7 yds, not a lot of 3 yd gains) I don't know what to make of the next two? Sack rate is not good. Might be Dungey, might be line - probably both.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

Temple indeed seems to be the real deal thanks to Addazio and Rhule. Now the Temple administration finally seems to be getting into the act as well. The Philly media reports that serious discussions are underway that may pave the way to the construction of a 35,000 seat on-campus stadium.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._100_million_stadium.html#HWT5bhzRZLm2qLpb.99

Hope we can pick up the pace, as our former conference mates and patsies (both Rutgers and Temple) may finally be realizing their potential. (OK, maybe not Rutgers!)

 

[HeaterCuse22]

Temple indeed seems to be the real deal thanks to Addazio and Rhule. Now the Temple administration finally seems to be getting into the act as well. The Philly media reports that serious discussions are underway that may pave the way to the construction of a 35,000 seat on-campus stadium.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports..._100_million_stadium.html#HWT5bhzRZLm2qLpb.99

Hope we can pick up the pace, as our former conference mates and patsies (both Rutgers and Temple) may finally be realizing their potential. (OK, maybe not Rutgers!)

I would be willing to look back in 4 - 5 years and this will be an anomaly for Temple an every 4/5 year cycle like most teams that are not in the top say 15. The difference between #25 and #80 is not as big as people want to believe. In some instances schools get on a streak and I would bet the biggest thing that would stick out would be consistency of staff. Just saying. If you switch coaches every 4-5 years or less you will have ups/downs that match.

 

[OrangeFoo]

I would be willing to look back in 4 - 5 years and this will be an anomaly for Temple an every 4/5 year cycle like most teams that are not in the top say 15. The difference between #25 and #80 is not as big as people want to believe. In some instances schools get on a streak and I would bet the biggest thing that would stick out would be consistency of staff. Just saying. If you switch coaches every 4-5 years or less you will have ups/downs that match.

Your post is an even bigger indictment on the Syracuse coaches. You reference a 4/5 year cycle for teams that are not top 15... we have been 15 years bad now. This isn't a pro team, the players have turned themselves over 3 or 4 times in that 15 year cycle. The only thing that has been consistent is the philosophy of trying to grind out wins with a good D and not being able to stop the new wave of college QBs and offenses when it counts. Not sure what makes anyone think hcss who subscribes to the same coaching philosophy as the last two guys is going to break us out of our 15/eternity cycle. I'd actually be extremely happy if we were on a 4/5 year cycle but we don't even seem remotely close to that.

 

[orangeinjersey]

and recruits. do you think recruits care the schedule strength is 104 ?

the only thing this board would be talking about is 'fools gold', and how we're not that good. complete opposite when talking about another team. they're so good. I'm not buying, we'll see how they do on the back half of their schedule with ND, South Florida, Memphis.

Of course they dont care. Look at us, when we were 3-0 it was all over the local press. 24 YEARS!! 24 Years since going 3-0 to start the season. No one except a few posters on this board cared it was vs URI and some other dredges of CFB.

 

[SUFan44]

I would be willing to look back in 4 - 5 years and this will be an anomaly for Temple an every 4/5 year cycle like most teams that are not in the top say 15. The difference between #25 and #80 is not as big as people want to believe. In some instances schools get on a streak and I would bet the biggest thing that would stick out would be consistency of staff. Just saying. If you switch coaches every 4-5 years or less you will have ups/downs that match.

The difference between #25 & #80 is wins and losses. And wins and losses boil down to a lot of things, not the least of which is game planning and development - which fall on the coaching staff.

This coaching staff has not proven to me that they can compete at the highest level in either regard.

 

[OrangeMojo]

Penn State
Cincinnati
UMass
Charlotte
Tulane
Central Florida

*voters don't care who you've played only that you win. Perception is everything.

Penn State & Cincinnati > South Florida & Virginia

SU should be 5-1, they're 3-3

 

[PhatOrange]

Penn State & Cincinnati > South Florida & Virginia

SU should be 5-1, they're 3-3

That's TBD. Temple still plays at South Florida. UVA hung with and maybe should've beaten ND. Will Temple do the same? I doubt it, I think ND is going to hang 50 on them.

 

[TexanMark]

That's TBD. Temple still plays at South Florida. UVA hung with and maybe should've beaten ND. Will Temple do the same? I doubt it, I think ND is going to hang 50 on them.

No way...they might beat Temple by 10-17 pts...but Temple will hang with them. An upset is unlikely but not impossible.

 

[Scooch]

We could have a much easier schedule if we played in the American. I'm assuming you guys want that?

 

[NineOneSeven]

we'd anywhere from 5-2 to 7-0 with the same schedule.

Temple is a solid team this year but lets not kid ourselves. They are ranked on a REALLY weak schedule. One P5 team.

Penn State - (5-2 wins over UB, Rutgers, San Diego St, Army, Indiana)

Cincinnati - (3-3 wins over Alabama A&M, Miami OH, Miami FL)

UMass - (1 -4 wins over FIU)

Charlotte - (2-4 wins over Georgia St, Presbyterian)

Tulane - (2-4 wins over Maine, Central Florida)

Central Florida - (0-7)

East Carolina - (4-4 wins over Towson, VT, SMU, Tulsa)

Strength of Schedule rank = #104

Syracuse strength of schedule = #68

7-0?

Lol

 

[K Otto XLIV]

I think we would be 5-2 with their schedule. So the question is why would Temple be 2 games better? Do they have better talent? Rhule and Shafer have been there the same amount of time. Shafer had a better squad when he took over. So if it is talent then what does that say about Shafer's recruiting? If it is not talent but coaching, then what does that say? The fact that Temple is better than SU is not a good thing either way.

 

[Orangello]

We don't have a decent cheese steak place. It's that simple.

 

[CuseCactus]

this whole thread makes me want to vomit.

Temple is better than Syracuse. Turrriffic.

 

[TheCusian]

I think we would be 5-2 with their schedule. So the question is why would Temple be 2 games better? Do they have better talent? Rhule and Shafer have been there the same amount of time. Shafer had a better squad when he took over. So if it is talent then what does that say about Shafer's recruiting? If it is not talent but coaching, then what does that say? The fact that Temple is better than SU is not a good thing either way.

I think we'd be 6-0. What does that say about Shafer? Rhule? And if a tree fell...

 

[shandeezy7]

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...-to-broadcast-college-gameday-on.html?ana=fbk

 

[cuse309]

Our offensive line is protecting for a Fr QB that moves in an instant. They are plugging different lanes as they are in a new system. The Sr.'s the third system in their career. for starters. Plus I will say the Sr. offensive line that Shafer had nothing to do with recruiting has about lived up to their ability. Nick Robinson? Love the guy, but hes maxed out.

Edit. I will also say that when the QB makes the throing play that's called he is averaging a very high number of YPC and also the offense as a total is actually doing not bad in YPP per Millhouse research.

I love Fredricks running ability, but his pass protection has been suspect also...

 

[bpo57]

They start 1 sophomore on Offense and 1 on Defense.

They Start 6 Sr and 2 RS Jr on Defense - 72% have played for 4+ years
They Start 2 Sr, 3 RS Sr and 2 RS Jr. on Offense - 63% have played for 4+ years

This is not rocket science folks. Addazio and Golden Recruited well. Rhule is reaping benefits. Call me in 5 years when his recruits have "taken over this roster". Marrone didn't leave behind what they did. Lets just say I believe that if Shafer is given 1-3 more years. This post will be a Syracuse topic. IMO

Rhule is coaching em up a lot better than his predecessors. Not even close.

 

[bpo57]

#1. Our defense was ranked #27 in the country last year man. That's with our struggles on offense. Its not like they have stunk all along and this year they are just young.
#2. That's not how recruiting works . Shafer as a DC had to get guys that Marrone wanted. Not the other way around.
#3. Marrone took the entire offensive staff and system with him. While Shafer had to roll the dice on a recruiter since that was our biggest problem once Marrone left. It didn't work. Now they are on a new system with a new OC.

No one is saying its a pass and Im getting more and more irritated with the "fans" that think reasons are excuses. it takes time to start over unless a coach is given losts of good older players to work with.

For the record Matt Rhule is 13-16 in his tenure as coach. Shafer is 13-18. and that's not including 3 years of ACC football that includes FSU and Clemson each year. With at least #8 LSU and #8 Notre Dame out of conference.

Rhule was 2-10 2013 and 6-6 in 2014 - Not exactly an immediate game changer.

Pretty decent trajectory, no?

 

[PhatOrange]

I think we would be 5-2 with their schedule. So the question is why would Temple be 2 games better? Do they have better talent? Rhule and Shafer have been there the same amount of time. Shafer had a better squad when he took over. So if it is talent then what does that say about Shafer's recruiting? If it is not talent but coaching, then what does that say? The fact that Temple is better than SU is not a good thing either way.

IMO because they have a better defense. Largely because we start 2 freshmen defensive tackles, two true sophomore linebackers and 3 sophomore and freshman dbacks.