Texas fires Chris Beard

[Capt. Tuttle]

Your responses in this thread couldn’t be more on brand.

Well, I am probably one of the few here who has 15 years of family court and criminal proceedings representing both men and women in theses circumstances. Most of you are just knee jerk to reported events, hoping to not be seen as non-PC. The truth is that accusers lie. Perpetrators lie. Police lie, usually in order to over charge. The truth often lies some where in between all of the statements.

 

[Day2]

Well, I am probably one of the few here who has 15 years of family court and criminal proceedings representing both men and women in theses circumstances. Most of you are just knee jerk to reported events, hoping to not be seen as non-PC. The truth is that accusers lie. Perpetrators lie. Police lie, usually in order to over charge. The truth often lies some where in between all of the statements.

It’s a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without political correctness for speaking the truth.

 

[richmondcuse03]

It would take a while, but the Cliff's Notes version is that, yes, systemically there are dysfunctions that correlate with crime in US society to address (steering those ships are slow) and on the justice side of the equation there's so much we could learn from other countries, but, you know, part of that dysfunction to address is the misapplication of American exceptionalism where we lean hard into the idea that a) other countries can't possibly figure stuff out that we haven't and if they have then b) we are very willing to find something that's "unique" about the US that means it wouldn't work/doesn't apply so we'll just stay the way we are.

In the interests of not getting the thread locked and out of respect for the honorable Lord Ashby I'll refrain from commenting more.

Hah I was going to build on your commentary but I’ll refrain except for saying there are clear correlations between crime rates and income levels, including rising disparity levels. Lots of folks like to fight about best way to solve that. But hard to ignore it’s not a part of the issue when you look at how we’ve concentrated poor people in certain parts of cities and then stuck police on them while reducing the safety net. (I have a close friend who is conservative and the captain of a large police force on the east coast with bad crime. Even he admits the approach is broken and messed up).

 

[Cuse181]

Well, I am probably one of the few here who has 15 years of family court and criminal proceedings representing both men and women in theses circumstances. Most of you are just knee jerk to reported events, hoping to not be seen as non-PC. The truth is that accusers lie. Perpetrators lie. Police lie, usually in order to over charge. The truth often lies some were in between all of the statements.

The truth can certainly be between viewpoints, but most times it is far closer to one side than the other and in this case the signed statement of the victim and the partial “retraction” that failed to excuse multiple marks on her body would sure appear to point toward beard being the one leaving the most damage. Sure, the wife could be an abuser too, but one has marks and the other doesn’t and one is a public figure and the other isn’t.

 

[NYCCuse826]

The decommits will come swiftly

 

[Scooch]

I SAY WE HANG HIM!

Then we should let the facts come out.

I WAS RIGHT!

 

[Sbucketball]

Well, I am probably one of the few here who has 15 years of family court and criminal proceedings representing both men and women in theses circumstances. Most of you are just knee jerk to reported events, hoping to not be seen as non-PC. The truth is that accusers lie. Perpetrators lie. Police lie, usually in order to over charge. The truth often lies some where in between all of the statements.

Well put. As a lawyer (not family/criminal though - construction and commercial litigation), I can confirm there's almost always 3 sides to every story. One party's story, the other's story, and the truth.