The all-inclusive Cuse Coaching Thread

[Millhouse]

If I'm hearing all this correctly people are on board with bringing in someone with no HC experience, no program ties and no significant NE ties to turn the tide here? Sounds like a Greg Robinson resume. How many years do we let that bad idea experiment last?

Pro vs college offense vs defense

No one is suggesting we get a terrible pro defensive coordinator with a year of college experiense

 

[orangenirvana]

Agree to disagree. Why not get both a great offensive mind with proven HC experience?

Being an OC is completely different than calling all the shots and running the whole program. Night and day.

Shafer was a very good DC, but when it came to calling all the shots and being in charge of key in-game situations, not so much.

We've been too lousy for too long to take another "chance" on a good coordinator turning into a HC.

The best college head coaches were more often than not successful coordinators first. I don't think it's "night and day" - at least at the college level. Many very similar and overlapping skill sets between the two positions.

 

[Rocco]

The best college head coaches were more often than not successful coordinators first. I don't think it's "night and day" - at least at the college level. Many very similar and overlapping skill sets between the two positions.

Again, I will completely disagree. So much different being in charge of all hires, major decisions, game planning of all 3 units, stress, I mean you name it.

Sure, there is obviously overlap, but as a HC, EVERYTHING is your responsibility. Not just the offense or defense.

 

[bothsocksup]

Diaco?

 

[Rocco]

Diaco?

We need an offensive guy if we want the fans back sooner than later. IMO.

At the end of the day, wins ultimately fill the seats, but having something really exciting would be different than we've had in years. Time to emulate one of the Big 12 or MAC offenses.

 

[orangenauburn]

We need an offensive guy if we want the fans back sooner than later. IMO.

At the end of the day, wins ultimately fill the seats, but having something really exciting would be different than we've had in years. Time to emulate one of the Big 12 or MAC offenses.

Yup

Give the area something new and exciting

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

I just really hope that we are in the discussion for the types of coaches being recruited by schools like Miami, Missouri, and Va Tech as opposed to schools like UCF.

USC is its own place, I get, but we need to be fighting for the same level of coaches as these other power conference schools.

My first choice, something I've pleaded for going on 20 years now, is a coach who will use the Dome to our advantage. We need to be a throwing team.

 

[Rocco]

Mods... any chance we can start consolidating the coaching candidates' threads? There are 10 of them going... sorry, you guys get a raise in 2016.

 

[Millhouse]

frost last 5 games 546 ypg, 7.85 yards per play, 5 wins

that kind of yards per play is Baylor esque. 9 yards per play the last 2 weeks.

this oregon team wasn't supposed to do much. look at where they are finishing up

last two games, 17 and 16 yards per passing attempt. that is unheard of. against stanford and USC

the traditional SU fan wants running. he gives you that. he gives the less traditional fan a no huddle super fast pace. good compromise if the air raid is a non starter here.

 

[Cusester]

When you look at Frost's total coaching history he becomes a very attractive candidate. http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=3661251

 

[TheCusian]

When you look at Frost's total coaching history he becomes a very attractive candidate. http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=3661251

I like this, form his wikipedia page:

Frost was coached by Stanford’s Bill Walsh, Nebraska’s Tom Osborne, the New York Jets’ Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick, and Jon Gruden. He broke into the coaching ranks as a graduate assistant at his alma mater in 2002 before filling the same role at Kansas State in 2006.

Frost took a position at Northern Iowa in 2007 as linebackers coach before being elevated as the Panthers’ co-defensive coordinator one year later. His defense finished the 2008 season tied for third in the Football Championship Subdivision in takeaways (40) and ninth in the country in scoring defense (17.7 ppg). With a 12–3 record, they also led the Missouri Valley Football Conference in rushing defense (107.1 avg.) and scoring defense.[2]

He joined the Oregon coaching staff as its wide receivers coach on January 26, 2009. Working under head coach Chip Kelly and offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich, Frost was instrumental in instituting a toughness among his receivers that enhanced their ability as downfield blockers, which contributed to the success of the Ducks’ running game.[citation needed] During his four seasons at Oregon as wide receivers coach, the Ducks reached four straight BCS bowls and three of his departed wide receivers during his Oregon tenure have been invited into NFL camps.

After the departure of Kelly, the University of Oregon promoted Helfrich to head coach and Frost was later officially announced as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach on January 31, 2013.[3]

In his first season as Oregon's offensive coordinator, Frost's offense set a school record for total offense in a season at 7,345 yards, besting the old mark of 7,319 in 2011, which happened during a 14-game season.[4] Oregon finished the season with an 11–2 record and a top-ten ranking after beating Texas 30–7 in the 2013 Alamo Bowl.

 

[richard levy]

If not mentioned previously, Joe Moglia, of Coastal Carolina

 

[Rocco]

 

[qdawgg]

If not mentioned previously, Joe Moglia, of Coastal Carolina

When you say "if not mentioned", you mean in this thread? In addition to the thread bearing his name?

* Good lord, I looked and you started the thread.

 

[Rocco]

 

[RoysRunts]

Yup

Give the area something new and exciting

Ya score 40 pts a Game and give up 60

 

[RoysRunts]

Check out this years scores,,How is he going to get west Coast kids to come here, look at his roster over the years

 

[Rocco]

Frost began his collegiate career as a two-year letterman at Stanford in 1993 and ’94 before transferring to Nebraska in 1995. The Huskers’ two-year starter and 1997 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award finalist quarterbacked teams to a 24-2 record while completing 192 of 359 passes for 2,677 yards and 18 career touchdowns. Included was a senior season in which he became only the 10th player in college football history to both run (1,095 yds.) and pass (1,237 yds.) for 1,000 yards in a single season.

His senior season featured the legendary play called the Flea Kicker. In a game against Missouri, Frost threw a pass that was kicked by Shevin Wiggins and caught by Matt Davison for a touchdown. The touchdown sent the game into overtime and Frost sealed Nebraska's victory with a rushing touchdown. Frost then led Nebraska to the 1997 National Championship with a 42-17 Orange Bowl win over Peyton Manning's Tennessee Volunteers.[1]

Following his collegiate career, Frost was selected in the third round (67th overall) of the 1998 NFL Draft by the New York Jets, where he played safety and special teams from 1998-2000. His professional football career included stops in Cleveland (2001), Green Bay (2001–02), and Tampa Bay (2003).

Frost was coached by Stanford’s Bill Walsh, Nebraska’s Tom Osborne, the New York Jets’ Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick, and Jon Gruden. He broke into the coaching ranks as a graduate assistant at his alma mater in 2002 before filling the same role at Kansas State in 2006.

Frost took a position at Northern Iowa in 2007 as linebackers coach before being elevated as the Panthers’ co-defensive coordinator one year later. His defense finished the 2008 season tied for third in the Football Championship Subdivision in takeaways (40) and ninth in the country in scoring defense (17.7 ppg). With a 12–3 record, they also led the Missouri Valley Football Conference in rushing defense (107.1 avg.) and scoring defense.[2]

He joined the Oregon coaching staff as its wide receivers coach on January 26, 2009. Working under head coach Chip Kelly and offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich, Frost was instrumental in instituting a toughness among his receivers that enhanced their ability as downfield blockers, which contributed to the success of the Ducks’ running game.[citation needed] During his four seasons at Oregon as wide receivers coach, the Ducks reached four straight BCS bowls and three of his departed wide receivers during his Oregon tenure have been invited into NFL camps.

After the departure of Kelly, the University of Oregon promoted Helfrich to head coach and Frost was later officially announced as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach on January 31, 2013.[3]

In his first season as Oregon's offensive coordinator, Frost's offense set a school record for total offense in a season at 7,345 yards, besting the old mark of 7,319 in 2011, which happened during a 14-game season.[4] Oregon finished the season with an 11–2 record and a top-ten ranking after beating Texas 30–7 in the 2013 Alamo Bowl.

 

[Rocco]

Baldwin graduated from Curtis Senior High School in University Place, Washington in 1990. He played at quarterback and earned three letters in football and three in baseball in his high school career. Baldwin helped lead Curtis to the 1989 Washington State 3A title in football.

Baldwin played college football at Central Washington University from 1990 to 1993. As a player, Baldwin was a two-time team captain and completed 121-of-197 passes for 1,655 yards and eight touchdowns. His career completion percentage of .614 is a school record. In a 38–35 win versus Simon Fraser in 1991, he set single-game school records for attempts (52), completions (32), yards (467), total plays (66) and total yards (550). He had a 6-yard touchdown pass with four seconds left to give the Wildcats the win. In his last two seasons, Baldwin served as the backup to Jon Kitna.

After college, Baldwin spent a short time playing semi-pro football in Sweden. He played in a league that allowed only two American players per team, and they were also required to serve as assistant coaches, giving Baldwin a springboard into his coaching career back in the United States.

Central Washington[edit]
In 2007, Baldwin returned to Central Washington as the head coach of the Wildcats. In his only season at Central as head coach, Baldwin led Central to a 10–3 record and an appearance in the 2007 NCAA Division II playoffs, where they lost in the quarterfinals to two-time defending Division II National Champion Grand Valley State.

Baldwin’s quarterback in 2007 was Mike Reilly, who was one of 24 national candidates for the Harlon Hill Trophy, given to the top player in NCAA Division II football. In 2007, Central Washington averaged 398.5 yards of total offense per game in 2007, including an average of 263.5 passing. Central averaged 31.4 points per game, including five games with at least 40 points.

Eastern Washington[edit]
Baldwin returned to Eastern Washington in 2008 as head coach, replacing Paul Wulff, whom Baldwin had served under as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. In Baldwin's first year, Eastern Washington finished 6–5 overall and 5–3 in the Big Sky Conference.

In 2009, Eastern finished with an 8–4 record and advanced to the FCS Playoffs for the fourth time in six seasons, losing in the first round to Stephen . Austin, 44–33.

In 2010, Baldwin led Eastern Washington to their best season in school history, leading the Eagles to a 13–2 record and the school's first national championship in football, winning the NCAA Division I Football Championship with a 20–19 come-from-behind victory over Delaware in the title game on January 7, 2011 in Frisco, Texas.

In 2011, the Eagles were ravaged by injuries en route to a 6–5 finish, missing the chance to defend their title in the FCS Playoffs. During this season, Eastern had its second Payton Award winner, quarterback Bo Levi Mitchell.

In the 2012 and 2013 seasons, Eastern amassed a 23–6 total record, winning two Big Sky Conference titles, including the school's first outright conference title in 2013. In these two seasons, Eastern mad consecutive trips to the FCS Playoffs, losing both times in the semifinal round. Baldwin was named the Big Sky Conference Coach of the Year in both seasons.

In the 2013 season opening game, Baldwin led Eastern Washington to an upset win over FBS #25 Oregon State. Eastern's win is only the third time an FCS team has defeated a ranked FBS opponent in the history of college football. The win proved to be a milestone for Baldwin and the program, delivering a great deal of national media attention to the team and quarterback Vernon Adams, who passed for 411 yards and four touchdowns and ran for 107 yards with two more touchdowns in the victory.

Eastern Washington played the first college football game of the 2014 season at any division in the newly formed FCS Kickoff game against Sam Houston State. The game was nationally televised on ESPN, another milestone for the Eagle football program.

 

[Rocco]

Lincoln Riley

One of the brightest young coaches in college football was named OU’s offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach on Jan. 12, 2015.

Joined the Sooners after a highly-successful five-year stint working under head coach Ruffin McNeill at East Carolina from 2010-14.

Installed and directed a new up-tempo spread offensive scheme that made an immediate impact at ECU as the Pirates set over 50 team or individual school offensive records in his five seasons with the program. His five squads own the top five passing seasons in school history and the top four positions for total offense in a season.

Spent his final season with the Pirates serving in the role of assistant head coach/offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach in 2014 as East Carolina ranked third in the nation in passing offense (371.9 ypg) and was fifth in total offense (533.0 ypg).

The Pirates set a single-season school record with 6,929 yards of total offense in 2014 and averaged 35.8 ppg to rank second in the American Athletic Conference.

His East Carolina offensive units routinely earned national top 10 rankings in major statistical categories such as passing offense (third in 2014, eighth in 2010), scoring offense (fifth in 2014, eighth in 2013), third-down percentage (seventh in 2013) and Red Zone scoring efficiency (third in 2012, fifth in 2010).

Tranformed East Carolina walk-on WR Justin Hardy into the most productive pass catcher in FBS history with 387 career catches, breaking the NCAA career record previously held by Oklahoma’s Ryan Broyles (349).

Hardy’s 4,541 career receiving yards rank third all-time in FBS annals. He flourished in Riley’s offense, registering three 1,000-yard seasons at ECU, culminating with a 121-catch, 1,494-yard season as a senior in 2014.

Also mentored East Carolina WR Dwayne Harris, who enjoyed a prolifc senior campaign in 2010 with 101 catches for 1,123 yards and 10 touchdowns.

Developed a pair of dynamic quarterbacks in Dominique Davis and Shane Carden. Davis, selected as Conference USA’s Newcomer of the Year in 2011, left ECU with career marks for completions and touchdown passes despite playing only two seasons.

Davis ranked second among FBS signal callers with 393 completions and 46 total touchdowns in 2010. He set an NCAA record with a stretch of 36 straight completions in 2011.

Carden then took over the job in 2012 and went on to break the majority of Davis’ records, becoming the first 4,000-yard passer in program history and setting single-season standards for completion percentage (70.5 in 2013) and passing yards (4,736 in 2014).

Carden earned Conference USA MVP honors in 2013 and was the American Conference’s Offensive Player of the Year in 2014. He led all FBS passers with 392 completions in 2014.

During his seven seasons on Texas Tech staff, Riley was part of seven bowl appearances and five bowl wins. During that span, Red Raiders quarterbacks won NCAA passing titles in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2007.

Subsquently immersed himself in Mike Leach’s offense and worked his way into a full-time position on his staff, eventually calling plays for Texas Tech as interim coordinator in the 2010 Alamo Bowl. The Red Raiders racked up 579 yards in a 41-31 victory over Michigan State, marking a phenomenal start to his career as a play caller.

Under his guidance in 2007, WR Michael Crabtree won the Biletnikoff Award after smashing Big 12 records and NCAA freshman records with 134 receptions for 1,962 yards. Crabtree also accumulated 22 touchdown catches that season, a figure that was later surpassed by West Virginia’s Stedman Bailey (25 in 2012).

Texas Tech boasted a duo of 100-catch, 1,000-yard receivers with Riley on staff in 2007 as WR Danny Amendola hauled in 109 passes for 1,245 yards.

 

[Finwad32]

My feeling is, if you can lead you can lead. I don't care if it's been a coordinator only, all HC's started somewhere. Find a guy who philosophically fits what you're looking for and from that pool, interview the people.

Bright guys have a way of standing out. My thought is if you can get Frost, you get him. A lot of people in here have been in management, of course there are outliers, but, when you had a home run candidate to hire did they not typically stand out?

I love these three coaches:
1) Frost
2) Riley
3) Kendal Briles

FWIW - Briles has received inquiries, and I heard that he flat out laughed/told people not to waste their time. One AD I spoke with was kind of miffed at his attitude.

 

[Rocco]

My feeling is, if you can lead you can lead. I don't care if it's been a coordinator only, all HC's started somewhere. Find a guy who philosophically fits what you're looking for and from that pool, interview the people.

Bright guys have a way of standing out. My thought is if you can get Frost, you get him. A lot of people in here have been in management, of course there are outliers, but, when you had a home run candidate to hire did they not typically stand out?

I love these three coaches:
1) Frost
2) Riley
3) Kendal Briles

FWIW - Briles has received inquiries, and I heard that he flat out laughed/told people not to waste their time. One AD I spoke with was kind of miffed at his attitude.

Is Briles an idiot? He must be if he is treating teams that want to pay him a lot of money like that.

 

[Finwad32]

Is Briles an idiot? He must be if he is treating teams that want to pay him a lot of money like that.

Crazy right.

 

[GoSU96]

Is Briles an idiot? He must be if he is treating teams that want to pay him a lot of money like that.

Maybe he's smart enough to know he's not ready.

He's not even had a full season as OC. His father is 60, he's set up to get one of the best jobs in the country in 5 or 6 years.

 

[orangeinohio]

According to this, he has applied for the HC job at UNT:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/co...ad-coach-here-s-a-full-list-of-candidates.ece

From what you're saying, it sounds like he could get a helluva lot better job than UNT.