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The all-inclusive Cuse Coaching Thread

Rocco said:
Frost began his collegiate career as a two-year letterman at Stanford in 1993 and ’94 before transferring to Nebraska in 1995. The Huskers’ two-year starter and 1997 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award finalist quarterbacked teams to a 24-2 record while completing 192 of 359 passes for 2,677 yards and 18 career touchdowns. Included was a senior season in which he became only the 10th player in college football history to both run (1,095 yds.) and pass (1,237 yds.) for 1,000 yards in a single season.

His senior season featured the legendary play called the Flea Kicker. In a game against Missouri, Frost threw a pass that was kicked by Shevin Wiggins and caught by Matt Davison for a touchdown. The touchdown sent the game into overtime and Frost sealed Nebraska's victory with a rushing touchdown. Frost then led Nebraska to the 1997 National Championship with a 42-17 Orange Bowl win over Peyton Manning's Tennessee Volunteers.[1]

Following his collegiate career, Frost was selected in the third round (67th overall) of the 1998 NFL Draft by the New York Jets, where he played safety and special teams from 1998-2000. His professional football career included stops in Cleveland (2001), Green Bay (2001–02), and Tampa Bay (2003).

Frost was coached by Stanford’s Bill Walsh, Nebraska’s Tom Osborne, the New York Jets’ Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick, and Jon Gruden. He broke into the coaching ranks as a graduate assistant at his alma mater in 2002 before filling the same role at Kansas State in 2006.

Frost took a position at Northern Iowa in 2007 as linebackers coach before being elevated as the Panthers’ co-defensive coordinator one year later. His defense finished the 2008 season tied for third in the Football Championship Subdivision in takeaways (40) and ninth in the country in scoring defense (17.7 ppg). With a 12–3 record, they also led the Missouri Valley Football Conference in rushing defense (107.1 avg.) and scoring defense.[2]

He joined the Oregon coaching staff as its wide receivers coach on January 26, 2009. Working under head coach Chip Kelly and offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich, Frost was instrumental in instituting a toughness among his receivers that enhanced their ability as downfield blockers, which contributed to the success of the Ducks’ running game.[citation needed] During his four seasons at Oregon as wide receivers coach, the Ducks reached four straight BCS bowls and three of his departed wide receivers during his Oregon tenure have been invited into NFL camps.

After the departure of Kelly, the University of Oregon promoted Helfrich to head coach and Frost was later officially announced as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach on January 31, 2013.[3]

In his first season as Oregon's offensive coordinator, Frost's offense set a school record for total offense in a season at 7,345 yards, besting the old mark of 7,319 in 2011, which happened during a 14-game season.[4] Oregon finished the season with an 11–2 record and a top-ten ranking after beating Texas 30–7 in the 2013 Alamo Bowl.
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Frost also has a great winter name
 
Rocco said:
Lincoln Riley

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One of the brightest young coaches in college football was named OU’s offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach on Jan. 12, 2015.
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^^This guy^^

If not Babers then Riley. He's a star in the making.
 
Does anyone think Troy Calhoun could be a realistic candidate? I'm sure Mark Coyle is familiar with him from his days at Boise State. He has shown an ability to win with less talented athletes and his option scheme could light up the dome. http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...cademy-falcons-troy-calhoun-overlooked-072715
"A former NFL OC, the 49-year-old Calhoun is far from the traditional service academy coach. His teams are 16-6 the past two years and have beaten Boise State twice and No. 21 Colorado State (last season). It’d be very interesting to see what Calhoun could do without all of the restrictions of coaching at Air Force."
Source: http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...an-florida-st-fisher-coaching-carousel-112215
 
Orangefizz said:
Does anyone think Troy Calhoun could be a realistic candidate? I'm sure Mark Coyle is familiar with him from his days at Boise State. He has shown an ability to win with less talented athletes and his option scheme could light up the dome. http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...cademy-falcons-troy-calhoun-overlooked-072715
"A former NFL OC, the 49-year-old Calhoun is far from the traditional service academy coach. His teams are 16-6 the past two years and have beaten Boise State twice and No. 21 Colorado State (last season). It’d be very interesting to see what Calhoun could do without all of the restrictions of coaching at Air Force."
Source: http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...an-florida-st-fisher-coaching-carousel-112215
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No. At least I sure hope not. A passing offense must be a requirement.

This program has gone long enough ignoring the fact that we play indoors.
 
GoSU96 said:
Maybe he's smart enough to know he's not ready.

He's not even had a full season as OC. His father is 60, he's set up to get one of the best jobs in the country in 5 or 6 years.
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6-7 years ago Baylor was one of the worst jobs in the country. Amazing what can happen in a short period of time, because Briles really has turned it into a great job. Imagine if we actually get a coach willing to use the Dome to our advantage and to set us up as a place where exciting offensive players want to play.
 

Here are 10 factors for potential candidates to keep in mind.

1. How much is Syracuse willing to pay?

Per USA Today’s database, Shafer’s annual salary of $1.3 million was the lowest in the ACC among the 12 publicly-available salaries. Syracuse is a private school, so it’s possible there’s more, but likely not much. In this crowded coaching market, the cost of hiring a coach away is going to be high.

2. What are the expectations?

There’s a history of success at Syracuse, but the Orange haven’t won 10 games since 2001. They have three winning seasons since then, though an 8-5 season in 2012 resulted in a four-way share of the Big East title.

3. There’s a foundation in the ACC.

Syracuse was a winner out of conference realignment, finding stability by landing in the ACC. It’s not the same as SEC or Big Ten money, but the school has footing in a Power 5 conference.

4. You can use the Carrier Dome as an advantage.

Syracuse is in a cold climate, but you don’t need to worry about it during games. Playing in a climate-controlled environment means a wide-open offense could work. When you think Syracuse football, you think running the ball and defense, but given the explosion of up-tempo offenses, Syracuse is a place it could work.

5. Speaking of the dome, how are facilities?

The Carrier Dome opened in 1980 and hosts the football and men’s basketball programs. You’re obviously playing on a turf. The stadium’s acoustics can make the place louder than you would think. There’s also the Iocolan-Petto Football Complex, which includes offices, meeting rooms, strength and conditioning facilities and more. In addition, the brand-new 87,000-square-foot Ensley Athletic Center opened in January and includes a full 120-yard indoor field and a roof that reaches 65 feet tall, allowing for kicking and punting.

6. You need to recruit outside the region.

Upstate New York doesn’t have many quality recruits. Syracuse has 15 commitments in the class of 2016 and the No. 59-ranked class, No. 12 in the ACC. Those 15 players come from 10 different states. Staff connections to recruiting grounds will be important, because you’ll have to travel to get them.

7. That recruiting is evident in the breakdown of the current roster.

Only 23 players come from the home state of New York.

The rest come from Florida (16), Georgia (11), Pennsylvania (10), New Jersey (8), California (6), Illinois (6), Michigan (3), Alabama (2), Connecticut (2), Maryland (2), Massachusetts (2), Indiana (1), Missouri (1), Nevada (1), Ohio (1), Oregon (1), Virginia (1), Washington (1).

8. What is the quarterback situation?

The Orange have been decimated by injuries in the past two years, getting down to a fifth-string quarterback. QB’s on the roster include senior Terrel Hunt, sophomores AJ Long, Austin Wilson and Zack Mahoney and true freshman Eric Dungey.

9. It’s a young team.

The current roster has 18 seniors, 18 juniors, 26 sophomores, nine redshirt freshmen and 25 true freshmen.

10. Family is a factor.

You’d better like snow. Syracuse receives an average of 115 inches per year, the most of any metropolitan area in the continental United States. The city has a population of about 145,000, and the school’s enrollment is around 15,000. The city is four hours from New York City and four hours from Toronto.
 
NKR1978 said:
6-7 years ago Baylor was one of the worst jobs in the country. Amazing what can happen in a short period of time, because Briles really has turned it into a great job. Imagine if we actually get a coach willing to use the Dome to our advantage and to set us up as a place where exciting offensive players want to play.
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Bingo!
 
Perfect name for the new Syracuse HC:

Scott Frost!

Not saying he is the ideal cndidate; he just has the best name to fit.
 
Seriously, IMO, we need an exciting offense to put fanny's back in the Dome.
He will also need enough good connections to put together a solid staff with recruiting connections on the east coast. Our ability to do this is contingent on the university finally realizing that to be on top of the football world we need to spend the proper amount on our assistants salaries. On that note, living in CNY is way more affordable than ,many other locations.

IMO, our current AD knows what he is doing and I expect his hire to be a good one. To keep our current recruiting class in tact and to help the new HC to adjust to our primary recruiting area, it would help to retain Bobby Acosta.
 
Whitey23 said:

Here are 10 factors for potential candidates to keep in mind.

1. How much is Syracuse willing to pay?

Per USA Today’s database, Shafer’s annual salary of $1.3 million was the lowest in the ACC among the 12 publicly-available salaries. Syracuse is a private school, so it’s possible there’s more, but likely not much. In this crowded coaching market, the cost of hiring a coach away is going to be high.

2. What are the expectations?

There’s a history of success at Syracuse, but the Orange haven’t won 10 games since 2001. They have three winning seasons since then, though an 8-5 season in 2012 resulted in a four-way share of the Big East title.

3. There’s a foundation in the ACC.

Syracuse was a winner out of conference realignment, finding stability by landing in the ACC. It’s not the same as SEC or Big Ten money, but the school has footing in a Power 5 conference.

4. You can use the Carrier Dome as an advantage.

Syracuse is in a cold climate, but you don’t need to worry about it during games. Playing in a climate-controlled environment means a wide-open offense could work. When you think Syracuse football, you think running the ball and defense, but given the explosion of up-tempo offenses, Syracuse is a place it could work.

5. Speaking of the dome, how are facilities?

The Carrier Dome opened in 1980 and hosts the football and men’s basketball programs. You’re obviously playing on a turf. The stadium’s acoustics can make the place louder than you would think. There’s also the Iocolan-Petto Football Complex, which includes offices, meeting rooms, strength and conditioning facilities and more. In addition, the brand-new 87,000-square-foot Ensley Athletic Center opened in January and includes a full 120-yard indoor field and a roof that reaches 65 feet tall, allowing for kicking and punting.

6. You need to recruit outside the region.

Upstate New York doesn’t have many quality recruits. Syracuse has 15 commitments in the class of 2016 and the No. 59-ranked class, No. 12 in the ACC. Those 15 players come from 10 different states. Staff connections to recruiting grounds will be important, because you’ll have to travel to get them.

7. That recruiting is evident in the breakdown of the current roster.

Only 23 players come from the home state of New York.

The rest come from Florida (16), Georgia (11), Pennsylvania (10), New Jersey (8), California (6), Illinois (6), Michigan (3), Alabama (2), Connecticut (2), Maryland (2), Massachusetts (2), Indiana (1), Missouri (1), Nevada (1), Ohio (1), Oregon (1), Virginia (1), Washington (1).

8. What is the quarterback situation?

The Orange have been decimated by injuries in the past two years, getting down to a fifth-string quarterback. QB’s on the roster include senior Terrel Hunt, sophomores AJ Long, Austin Wilson and Zack Mahoney and true freshman Eric Dungey.

9. It’s a young team.

The current roster has 18 seniors, 18 juniors, 26 sophomores, nine redshirt freshmen and 25 true freshmen.

10. Family is a factor.

You’d better like snow. Syracuse receives an average of 115 inches per year, the most of any metropolitan area in the continental United States. The city has a population of about 145,000, and the school’s enrollment is around 15,000. The city is four hours from New York City and four hours from Toronto.
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SU paid Shafer less because they could! they were coming off a good year and gave him a shot. he gets his shot, SU gets a bargain.

now they need to pay a lot more and they will pay a lot more.

should SU have just thrown money at shafer for no reason or not given him a shot?

again with this 5th stringer stuff. mahoney beat out long and wilson. he was a 2.5 stringer
 
Millhouse said:
SU paid Shafer less because they could! they were coming off a good year and gave him a shot. he gets his shot, SU gets a bargain.

now they need to pay a lot more and they will pay a lot more.

should SU have just thrown money at shafer for no reason or not given him a shot?

again with this 5th stringer stuff. mahoney beat out long and wilson. he was a 2.5 stringer
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Depending on who they hire the base salary wouldn't necessarily have to be more. I believe that Frost only makes 400,000. Someone like him could be paid the same amount Shafer made plus incentives. Petrino made an additional 800,000 this year meeting goals of making GPA and a bowl game.
 
Millhouse said:
SU paid Shafer less because they could! they were coming off a good year and gave him a shot. he gets his shot, SU gets a bargain.

now they need to pay a lot more and they will pay a lot more.

should SU have just thrown money at shafer for no reason or not given him a shot?

again with this 5th stringer stuff. mahoney beat out long and wilson. he was a 2.5 stringer
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Syracuse started more QB's over the last 3 years than any other FBS school. Fact.
 
We all need to keep in mind that the next coach is coming into a program with a few potentially good QBs but with very limited talent at the receiver position.

So if we're all hopeful of a new scheme with a potent passing attack, the new guy either has to be very inventive with the talent at hand or hit the ground running in recruiting some top end receivers.
 
Long before rumours of Coach Shafers demise...AD Coyle went fishing and lo and behold he got substantial nibbles from his top 5 "fish" ,all bigger than his current "fish", thus making it easier to let go of his current "fish". I think Coyle knows who the next SU fish/coach is going to be. Waiting to see how big of a "fish" he reels in. Just hope its not a flounder.
 
Ringostar57 said:
Long before rumours of Coach Shafers demise...AD Coyle went fishing and lo and behold he got substantial nibbles from his top 5 "fish" ,all bigger than his current "fish", thus making it easier to let go of his current "fish". I think Coyle knows who the next SU fish/coach is going to be. Waiting to see how big of a "fish" he reels in. Just hope its not a flounder.
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I don't know, sounds fishy to me.
 
Ringostar57 said:
Long before rumours of Coach Shafers demise...AD Coyle went fishing and lo and behold he got substantial nibbles from his top 5 "fish" ,all bigger than his current "fish", thus making it easier to let go of his current "fish". I think Coyle knows who the next SU fish/coach is going to be. Waiting to see how big of a "fish" he reels in. Just hope its not a flounder.
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I hope you are right.

I just got dizzy reading about the love for an FCS coach in E. Washington with no FBS experience, no ties to the East, and no ties to the University. I have to believe that Coyle had a legitimate plan of succession and wasn't shooting from his hip as the fanbase tends to do in these situations.
 
Louie and Bouie said:
Syracuse started more QB's over the last 3 years than any other FBS school. Fact.
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who cares about allen and wilson's starts. if we had decent offensive coaches, they would've known to never ever start either of them
 
GoSU96 said:
Maybe he's smart enough to know he's not ready.

He's not even had a full season as OC. His father is 60, he's set up to get one of the best jobs in the country in 5 or 6 years.
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Not what I'm talking about... if what he is doing is true, then he's nuts. You politely say no, instead of laughing at the chance.

He might not be ready (doubt he thinks that), but you should always be grateful for any opportunity.
 
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