The case for keeping Red

[Sherman20]

Possible they pay up to bring Tommy Lloyd back home.

Why would he leave Arizona and all their resources?

 

[Cuse1055]

They DO care about making money; they don't care about winning or the fans

Then they should wake up and realize that they’re going to continue to lose money with declining attendance until they make a change.

 

[elimunelson]

He stays if:

• Cuse ends the season on a strong run and gets in the tourney
• Freeman gets hurt again and a case is made injuries did him im
• There isn’t a Chancellor in place/the AD isn’t given the authority from above to make a change
• Melo says keep him another year

Depressing on all fronts.

If we make a run to end the season that will be in spite of his coaching abilities

 

[jncuse]

There are no coaches with systems that are plug and play.

Nonsense. There are certainly coaches with systems, structure and player types that will do better in this era, even with middle of the pack NIL resources. It may not always work perfectly, but it certainly helps significantly.

I'm not sure this program has had a vision on players and system for a while.

 

[shu 49]

As a longtime season ticket holder, the only case I could make for Red is SU does not have a very talented team this year. I remember times when we would beat top 25 opponents every week or two. The Cuse has only beaten one team ranked in the top 110 of the NET this season. It's really hard to believe that we only have one win against a good team on January 18. Making the point that fans are overrating the team's talent does not excuse the poor coaching decisions I have seen. Go Cuse!

See I disagree here. Where don’t we have talent. D has improved but our offense is not good and no movement at all. Dumb threes when we should be working inside out. Coach asks the players for level 5. I am not from that type of coaching. U demand it from them and if they don’t give it they sit no matter who it is. I feel Red is way too nice. Need a hard as like pearl or UConn coach type.

 

[Sdot]

 

[CuseFaninVT]

My desire to correct grammar and spelling is highly triggered right now.

 

[Cuse4403]

There is zero reason to bring Autry back. Zero.

First things first. In today's game he doesn't have to wait for a recruiting class or two to be ready to contribute. He can pick a roster, if we are willing to pay, from a plethora of available players.

Second, and most importantly, last season was our worst since the 1960's. Jim Boeheim was half asleep his last couple of years and starting his All Family Reunion team and didn't have a year that bad. Autry is 46-38 (0.547) here all time. It's possible, even likely, he finishes his tenure here at 50-46 (.520). Boeheim won 51 games his last three seasons combined.

Third, does anyone get better here? Honestly? It seems like the majority of players who walk through the door were better before they got here or the ones that leave, find more success elsewhere.

Retaining Autry or even pushing the idea it's being considered is a colossal mistake. It was after last year and it will be exponentially worse at the end of this season.

 

[TommyA13]

There isn’t one, hope this helps!

 

[HyattsCuse]

My desire to correct grammar and spelling is highly triggered right now.

NOT NEVER is making me twitch.

 

[orange79]

My desire to correct grammar and spelling is highly triggered right now.

Me too.

I've requested a support group be set up...

 

[Lukeyloo]

This feel like an appropriate thread to post this in. Childress makes a case for Autry based on SU's resources that I can a least partly agree with, even though there's a lot that should be controllable with good coaching.

 

[dasher]

This feel like an appropriate thread to post this in. Childress makes a case for Autry based on SU's resources that I can a least partly agree with, even though there's a lot should be controllable with good coaching.

I hate it when I am close minded but there is no reason to keep him. I won't even listen to Childress. We have seen enough. And we gave him a chance this year. We got him a team with enough talent to compete. We lost to Hofstra and B.C.

 

[kingtidge]

There is zero reason to bring Autry back. Zero.

First things first. In today's game he doesn't have to wait for a recruiting class or two to be ready to contribute. He can pick a roster, if we are willing to pay, from a plethora of available players.

Second, and most importantly, last season was our worst since the 1960's. Jim Boeheim was half asleep his last couple of years and starting his All Family Reunion team and didn't have a year that bad. Autry is 46-38 (0.547) here all time. It's possible, even likely, he finishes his tenure here at 50-46 (.520). Boeheim won 51 games his last three seasons combined.

Third, does anyone get better here? Honestly? It seems like the majority of players who walk through the door were better before they got here or the ones that leave, find more success elsewhere.

Retaining Autry or even pushing the idea it's being considered is a colossal mistake. It was after last year and it will be exponentially worse at the end of this season.

Kyle being the exception...

but look at George...

All-ACC PG to a trainwreck under the Autry system (or I should say lack of a real system).

It's pretty damning.

 

[phil77]

I hate it when I am close minded but there is no reason to keep him. I won't even listen to Childress. We have seen enough. And we gave him a chance this year. We got him a team with enough talent to compete. We lost to Hofstra and B.C.

This is where I am at any coach that is halfway decent should be able to get this team to the tournament.

 

[Loosecuse]

This feel like an appropriate thread to post this in. Childress makes a case for Autry based on SU's resources that I can a least partly agree with, even though there's a lot that should be controllable with good coaching.

Was a great interview. I also agree that no matter who is the coach the NIL is going to be the limiting factor.

I can make one point for red we are in the mix for a top 3 recruit in the country for Class of 2026.

 

[miamicuse]

No case.

 

[CuseCPT]

My favorite one I’ve seen is that we have been competitive in most games.

Yeah, BC couldn’t blow us out!

 

[blust2i3d4]

There isn’t one, hope this helps!

There is a slim one. Red needs 3 wins against Virginia, UNCx2 and Duke.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

There is a slim one. Red needs 3 wins against Virginia, UNCx2 and Duke.

Good one. I needed that laugh tonight

 

[HyattsCuse]

I hate it when I am close minded but there is no reason to keep him. I won't even listen to Childress. We have seen enough. And we gave him a chance this year. We got him a team with enough talent to compete. We lost to Hofstra and B.C.

You didn’t miss much not listening. I don’t know if Childress gets prepped beforehand or just wings these kind of interviews, but while he sounded convincing, it’s very easy to poke holes in a lot of his logic.

He tried to correlate NIL to our ACC standing by stating the fact we were picked to be 9th in the ACC and are ranked 9-10th in ACC NIL (hosts guess). This shows if we want to be better, we need more NIL.

This logic has a ton of holes. Most obvious, we have already lost to VT and BC, two teams picked below us and, presumably, less NIL.

He said he wanted to ask each Cuse player something like how can he affect the game when he doesn’t have the ball on offense. Isn’t that a question for Red? I would think his offense would include what guys should be doing when they don’t have the ball.

Long story short, everything still comes back to Red. Times up after 3 seasons.

 

[domestu]

See I disagree here. Where don’t we have talent. D has improved but our offense is not good and no movement at all. Dumb threes when we should be working inside out. Coach asks the players for level 5. I am not from that type of coaching. U demand it from them and if they don’t give it they sit no matter who it is. I feel Red is way too nice. Need a hard as like pearl or UConn coach type.

SU is far more athletic and has more talent than last year, but their performances are too mistake ridden and feature too many poor player decisions to go overboard about our team's talent. They just aren't as talented as I was hoping at the beginning of the season. Miami totally dominated SU inside on Saturday.

We are one of the worst teams in the ACC at making 3s, committing turnovers, assists, rebounding and shooting free throws. We have only beaten one team ranked in the top 110 of the NET and have only won three ACC games against teams with a combined 4-17 conference record. I'm not saying our players don't have any talent. It's just not what I wish it was. Go Cuse!

 

[AngryOtto]

There is no reason. Not sure why even having this conversation other than a fan forum. Complaint last year is that he did not have the talent, more nil better players, no change. The constant is Red. It sucks because he is an alumnus but it is a result base business and the results are bad. Start of season was tournament or fired. Nothing should have changed.
On another note is it sucks when you never missed a game to get to the point because of the play to have limited interest in the game.

 

[Toga]

Interim HC James Arthur Boeheim - Come on down!