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[GoSU96]

Regarding Dave's tweet:

1) That's not what unimaginative means. Credit where it's due, constructing a truss over an active building to hold up a new rigid roof was a very imaginative solution and it looks to have been executed very well.

2) The aesthetic thing is always subjective and probably isn't worth quibbling over. The project was necessarily done on the cheap. I really liked the look of the truss on its own but don't much care for the finished roof (the material reminds me of those 1970s Midwestern basketball arenas -- Crisler, Joyce, etc.; and the interior's going to be really dark), but it's not something I'd really care to make a stink about.

Why is there an assumption of unlimited resources with capital projects? There is this money tree mentality in this country that is absolutely insane.

I swear to god there is a whole segment of the population that lives completely disconnected from the reality of resource and schedule constraints. Experts at spending other peoples money.

 

[OttoMets]

Why is there an assumption of unlimited resources with capital projects? There is this money tree mentality in this country that is absolutely insane.

I swear to god there is a whole segment of the population that lives completely disconnected from the reality of resource and schedule constraints. Experts at spending other peoples money.

My guess: because college athletics appears to be pretty disconnected from reality and people see so many peer schools doing insane things where money seems to be no object, but they can't distinguish what's different between SU and those other schools.

 

[GoSU96]

I don’t think y’all realize this is SU. If they don’t add the fixtures now... then It. Will. Not. Happen. Ever. This is not about being patient. Pete, ADJW and Kenny will not be visited by 3 ghosts on Xmas eve, unfortunately. and even if they were they’d tell the ghosts to kick rocks.

Ridiculous

 

[GoSU96]

Club 44 was added, concessions were updated, new scoreboards were put in, and that was all in the last 10 years so I have no idea where this line of thinking has come from. Clearly they understand about upgrading fan experience.

Townie fan bitching narrative, it's a real thing

 

[Trueblue25]

So the scoreboard wont be raised? Despite whats said in the article about the Cowboys occurrences, that scoreboard looks low. Maybe will be different on saturday

 

[Qbobby]

I think I saw a more up to date pic from somewhere where they were testing it and it was up to the roof.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Let's save this post and check back in 23 months...

Interesting that quoted 23 months. Do you have inside info?

 

[xc84]

So the scoreboard wont be raised? Despite whats said in the article about the Cowboys occurrences, that scoreboard looks low. Maybe will be different on saturday

Most of the pics so far were showing a scoreboard not yet raised. For sure, it will be at game time.

 

[Cuseregular]

Interesting that quoted 23 months. Do you have inside info?

Ummm based on no direct knowledge I’d say affirmative

 

[GoSU96]

My guess: because college athletics appears to be pretty disconnected from reality and people see so many peer schools doing insane things where money seems to be no object, but they can't distinguish what's different between SU and those other schools.

It's not limited to college sports

 

[SUbear]

Not only off-thread, but incorrect. As I reminded you in a prior thread, back in March the leg. gave Cuomo authority to issue emergency Covid orders within certain parameters (30-day cycles, fact-finding, etc.). You may agree or disagree with his decisions, but he did not breach any legal norms. NY State Senate Bill S7919

Off thread yes, but in response to another post. and I still do not agree that such a blanket authority is a legitimate legislative maneuver. Court challenges most likely.

 

[whobut03]

Club 44 was added, concessions were updated, new scoreboards were put in, and that was all in the last 10 years so I have no idea where this line of thinking has come from. Clearly they understand about upgrading fan experience.

shouldve seen the renderings for the original Club 44. VERY COOL. Basically could watch basketball through the glass windows while inside. The flow of traffic would’ve gone behind and where the current club 44 is situated.

 

[Mareiniss]

Why is there an assumption of unlimited resources with capital projects? There is this money tree mentality in this country that is absolutely insane.

I swear to god there is a whole segment of the population that lives completely disconnected from the reality of resource and schedule constraints. Experts at spending other peoples money.

I agree with this.

It's not fair to criticize SU for doing the Dome renovations "on the cheap." The fact that a $118 million project was undertaken at all proves otherwise.

At a time when an increasing number of private colleges were experiencing severe financial stress - even before the pandemic hit - it would have been irresponsible for SU to undertake an ostentatious and more costly renovation project.

 

[orlandoorange]

It's not limited to college sports

It is always easier to spend other people's money, just human nature I guess.

We give away advice and take money.

 

[bnoro]

Back in Our House - Syracuse University Athletics

Forty years ago this week, a structure that would serve as a centerpiece of the Central New York skyline and house countless memorable moments for the Syracu...

cuse.com

There's your TV special.

 

[GoSU96]

It is always easier to spend other people's money, just human nature I guess.

We give away advice and take money.

It's being obnoxiously presumptuous. Just horrible behavior.

There isn't nearly enough mind your own business in this country.

 

[upperdeck]

shouldve seen the renderings for the original Club 44. VERY COOL. Basically could watch basketball through the glass windows while inside. The flow of traffic would’ve gone behind and where the current club 44 is situated.

add a stairway at end side of the club 44 and you could take over that whole end if you wanted. no real reason you couldnt enclose the end and route the traffic to the upper endzones down and over a club 44 with the height of the roof there..

and no you could punch outside if you wanted couldnt you and make a nice area to hang out on a patio area at that end.. then you could use it for other events too and people could enter without going thru the dome.

 

[Consigliere]

Interesting that quoted 23 months. Do you have inside info?

Not me!

23 months is the first game of 2022 which is the published timeline for the completion of the fully funded P

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Back in Our House - Syracuse University Athletics

Forty years ago this week, a structure that would serve as a centerpiece of the Central New York skyline and house countless memorable moments for the Syracu...

cuse.com

There's your TV special.

'Cuse on the Couch.

is that like the Elf on the Shelf, of the Mensch on the Bench?

 

[CuseOnly]

I wonder if it is annoying to the SU administration and AD that every news and media outlet still refers to it as the Carrier Dome.

I think about it every time is is done.

 

[CuseOnly]

Townie fan bitching narrative, it's a real thing

So its the Townies that are the only ones bitching?

I would bet that most of the fans in the Dome on Saturdays are Townies. So we have every right to bitch as much as anyone.

 

[Cuseregular]

So its the Townies that are the only ones bitching?

I would bet that most of the fans in the Dome on Saturdays are Townies. So we have every right to bitch as much as anyone.

dude "townie" as in the poster Townie.

 

[DoubleDee]

'Cuse on the Couch.

is that like the Elf on the Shelf, of the Mensch on the Bench?

‘Cuse is on the couch, oh my God oh my God

 

[SuFTW]

And yet casinos are open, with masks. I have been several times using a full face respirator, thousands of people. How would this be different than a limited capacity stadium? It would not be.
Not one case has been traced back to these venues.
Talking about in NY.

Casinos are required to have “enhanced air filtration and ventilation”.

 

[GoSU96]

So its the Townies that are the only ones bitching?

I would bet that most of the fans in the Dome on Saturdays are Townies. So we have every right to bitch as much as anyone.

So am I, and an alum as well. People taking shots at how the school designed and spent money on this upgrade have no standing and are out of line.