The Downside - Bucknell

[SWC75]

- Everything on the Upside is about a game against Bucknell, a team that every team we play the rest of the way would have had no trouble blowing out. We’re 6-6: 6-0 against non-power conference teams; 0-6 against power conference teams. We will play nothing but power conference teams the rest of the way.

- We started each half with as abysmal a four minutes as I’ve seen. Moore missed a jumper. Carlos got a defensive rebound but Freeman turned it over. Lampkin got a D-reb but Moore turned it over. Freemen got a D-reb but Moore turned it over. Bucknell got a lay-up on the fast break. Freeman missed a jumper but Lampkin got the rebound an laid it in. Bucknell matched that and stole the ball from Freeman, who committed a foul. Bucknell threw up an airball. Cuffe missed a trey. Lampkin got the rebound but missed a lay-up. Cuffe got the rebound and was fouled. Cuffe missed a free throw, then made the second. Result: Bucknell 4 Syracuse 3.

- In the second half, we’d apparently taken full control of the game at 43-31. Chris Bell made a lay-up to push it to 45-31. The rout was on! Elijah Moore stole the ball and missed a three pointer. Freeman’s lay-up was blocked. Freeman got the rebound and got it Morre, who missed another three. Bucknell got a lay-up on the other end. Carlos turned it over. Lampkin stole the ball and got it to Moore, who turned it over. Bucknell hit a three. Bell turned it over. Bucknell hit another three and Freeman missed one. Carlos made a lay-up but missed a free throw. Freeman stole the ball and got it to Moore who turned it over. Bell committed a foul. Bucknell made two free throws. Result: Syracuse 47 Bucknell 41, (a 2-10 run, just like we have against Maryland. I’d really like to know what Red’s locker room speeches are like.

- Moore, who scored 24 points against the #1 team in the country was 0 for 5 and scoreless with 4 turnovers. Red pulled him from the game and gave him a hug.

- The number of times we will have 21 turnovers, (for the second game in a row), and miss 9 of 23 free throws and win will be very small.

- Chris Bell has now missed his last 17 three pointers. That is ridiculous.

- In the last two games, Jayre Davis had played 24 minutes, (12 in each) and not scored. This team’s problem is that the players are like a bank of elevators, everyone going up or down. We can’t get them all going at once. It’s always 12- guys trying to carry the team in this game while their teammates struggle.

- Naheem McCloud played two minutes, let two guys score over him and recorded no statistics other than those two minutes. They call that a “billionaire”. Minutes played and nothing else. The guy should be charged for a ticket as a spectator.

- The Gameday thread for Holiday Bowl is 76 pages. The Gameday thread of Bucknell is 12 pages. That says it all.

 

[sugrad68]

This game did not give me any confidence for the remainder of the year. 21 turnovers against a team that did not pressure us on the defensive end. 30% 3-point shooting with our 2 supposed best 3-point shooters going 0-5. 61% from the FT line. Luckily the ACC is not the SEC.

 

[SBU72]

I have always said that McCloud should not have been even picked up from the portal much less invited back for this season but others maintained that he was injured last year and should be good for 10-15 min a game. Has he even played a total of 15 mins this season? Probably any other 6'10" player in last year's portal would have been better. By the way, who is going to play center next year?

 

[23Zone]

This is what happens when you have a coaching staff where none of them played down low and are clueless. No development is the result

 

[Fly Rodder]

Eddie Lampkin yelled at Bell that he needed to set a screen on one play and then yelled at him to “wake the eph up!”

That’s telling. Makes it much harder to win at this level if a team is playing 4-on-5 or 4.5-on-5 for any length of time.

 

[Cappy3]

This is what happens when you have a coaching staff where none of them played down low and are clueless. No development is the result

Neither JB nor any of his staff played down low, yet they developed Seikaly, Thomas, Christmas, Onuako, Jackson, etc. simply not a prerequisite. Pete Newell, considered the best big man coach ever, was 6’2”.

 

[23Zone]

Neither JB nor any of his staff played down low, yet they developed Seikaly, Thomas, Christmas, Onuako, Jackson, etc. simply not a prerequisite. Pete Newell, considered the best big man coach ever, was 6’2”.

Imagine how much they would have been better with real big man coach.

 

[Cappy3]

Imagine how much they would have been better with real big man coach.

Again, Pete Newell.

 

[23Zone]

Again, Pete Newell.

Never heard of him. Died in 2008 at age 93. I'm sure he was a super coach back in the previous century lol

 

[Cappy3]

Never heard of him. Died in 2008 at age 93. I'm sure he was a super coach back in the previous century lol

Taught Bill Walton, Shaq, Olajuwan among others. Maybe you’ve heard of them.

 

[Cappy3]

Never heard of him. Died in 2008 at age 93. I'm sure he was a super coach back in the previous century lol

In fact, name your favorite center and, odds are he was taught by a guy who never played center.

 

[23Zone]

Taught Bill Walton, Shaq, Olajuwan among others. Maybe you’ve heard of them.

Those guys had real natural talent. They would have been phenomenal with anyone coaching them. I'm talking about guys who actually need tons of development that can't do basic stuff. I'm talking baby steps here that would be best be transmitted from someone who first hand knows the position. Pretty sure there's no one on our staff even close that fits that description. Louis Orr I believe was the last real big man we had on the coaching staff

 

[Cappy3]

Those guys had real natural talent. They would have been phenomenal with anyone coaching them. I'm talking about guys who actually need tons of development that can't do basic stuff. I'm talking baby steps here that would be best be transmitted from someone who first hand knows the position. Pretty sure there's no one on our staff even close that fits that description. Louis Orr I believe was the last real big man we had on the coaching staff

Rony Seikaly didn’t have the first idea about post play when he was a frosh. JB and Bernie Fine (neither a post player) developed him into someone who had a lengthy NBA career. Patrick Ewing was a great post player. Who’d he develop?

 

[23Zone]

Rony Seikaly didn’t have the first idea about post play when he was a frosh. JB and Bernie Fine (neither a post player) developed him into someone who had a lengthy NBA career. Patrick Ewing was a great post player. Who’d he develop?

This is a conversation and thread about the Syracuse University coaching staff. This is not about Georgetown. If you are so happy about our development of big guys with a current coaching staff then I commend you on your optimism

 

[Cappy3]

This is a conversation and thread about the Syracuse University coaching staff. This is not about Georgetown. If you are so happy about our development of big guys with a current coaching staff then I commend you on your optimism

Simply pointing out you don’t need to be a big guy to coach bigs. Most of the best big man coaches have been guards in their playing days. Few have been centers. Simply adding someone because he happens to be tall won’t solve anything.

 

[SWC75]

Rony Seikaly didn’t have the first idea about post play when he was a frosh. JB and Bernie Fine (neither a post player) developed him into someone who had a lengthy NBA career. Patrick Ewing was a great post player. Who’d he develop?

Bernie was a student manager.

 

[SWC75]

Those guys had real natural talent. They would have been phenomenal with anyone coaching them. I'm talking about guys who actually need tons of development that can't do basic stuff. I'm talking baby steps here that would be best be transmitted from someone who first hand knows the position. Pretty sure there's no one on our staff even close that fits that description. Louis Orr I believe was the last real big man we had on the coaching staff

Then why did they go to Pete Newell?

 

[DCUNITED13]

Huge downside for this team is unforced turnovers. There were over 20 this game. I think we averaged less than 12 last year. And in the last few years of JB we were under 10.

Again, the unforced turnovers. In early 2nd half we dribbled ourselves into a corner (by the SU bench) three or four straight trips down the floor. It was Lampkin, Freeman, Bell and Carlos. During one of these Red threw an apoplectic fit as he could not believe we are doing this again right as it happened, Bell lets a ball right though his hands. Carlos lobs a ball for an easy turnover. Holding on to the ball in a set offence for this team is difficult. It appears they are not in synch and are thinking though what they have to do instead of knowing what they have to do.

One positive play that occurred involved Carlos and Lampkin. We get a missed shot on our end, get quickly to the offensive end. Overload the right side and have Lampkin move to the left side of the lane. Carlos, QUICKLY dribbles left and feeds a bounce pass to Lampking who makes a nice quick move and scores. That is what I envision Lampkin to do in ACC play. More of that please.

We finally had proper indiviudals be open for the 3 (Bell wasnt) but INHO Jayre Davis should not be the option to take a 3 at the end of the Clock. This was happening consistently over the previous 4-5 games.

More Freeman please. Coach Autry realized that we could not hold a lead in the 1st half with Freeman sitting on the bench with 2 fouls. He brought him in and we pulled away. Turnovers killed us in the 2nd half. Unforced Turnovers. No more please.

Also, watched the Louiville game on CD prior to ours. Louiville scored something like 3 points in the last 5 minutes of the game to let their opponent claw back. They had a double digit lead prior. College BBall has become like the NFL. Few horrendous teams. Lots of mediocrity who can beat anyone and two to three superbowl contenders. SU is mediocrity right now. I'm bummed for real.

GO CUSE

 

[Madbiker]

The number of unforced turnovers this team commits and the mostly poor perimeter shooting is going to bury them against conference teams who will take much more advantage and capitalize on it than the low mid majors have that we have been beating. Strap in because it's going to get real ugly.